Judge calls DeSantis ban on transgender care unconstitutional

[essentialsaltes]

A federal judge on Tuesday blocked most of a law championed by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) that strictly limited transgender health care for adults and banned it completely for children.

“Florida has adopted a statute and rules that ban gender-affirming care for minors even when medically appropriate,” Hinkle wrote. “The ban is unconstitutional.”

A growing number of states have been outlawing gender-transition care for minors. But Florida’s law was the first to limit care for adults.

DeSantis’s press secretary Jeremy Redfern said the state will appeal the decision.

In his decision, Hinkle, who was appointed by President Bill Clinton, cited statements from DeSantis and Republican legislators about “mutilating our children” but said the state presented no evidence that such surgeries have ever happened in Florida.

The judge also said the “frenzied rhetoric” from Tallahassee — including a lawmaker who “loudly referred to transgender witnesses at a committee hearing on a related bill as ‘mutants’ and ‘demons’” — was “direct evidence of that member’s animus.”

 

[Zaha Torte]

A federal judge on Tuesday blocked most of a law championed by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) that strictly limited transgender health care for adults and banned it completely for children.

“Florida has adopted a statute and rules that ban gender-affirming care for minors even when medically appropriate,” Hinkle wrote. “The ban is unconstitutional.”

A growing number of states have been outlawing gender-transition care for minors. But Florida’s law was the first to limit care for adults.

DeSantis’s press secretary Jeremy Redfern said the state will appeal the decision.

In his decision, Hinkle, who was appointed by President Bill Clinton, cited statements from DeSantis and Republican legislators about “mutilating our children” but said the state presented no evidence that such surgeries have ever happened in Florida.

The judge also said the “frenzied rhetoric” from Tallahassee — including a lawmaker who “loudly referred to transgender witnesses at a committee hearing on a related bill as ‘mutants’ and ‘demons’” — was “direct evidence of that member’s animus.”

"Sex-reassignment" surgery or any "gender-affirming" procedures are never "medically appropriate" - even for adults.

There does not need to be any history of such mutilations happening in Florida for DeSantis to act proactively to protect Floridian children in the future.

Are not allowing children to get tattoos, smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, drive motor vehicles and engage in sexual relations with adults also unconstitutional?

 

[essentialsaltes]

"Sex-reassignment" surgery or any "gender-affirming" procedures are never "medically appropriate" - even for adults.

Professional medical societies disagree. Your 'second opinion' carries no weight.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Professional medical societies disagree. Your 'second opinion' carries no weight.

That literally doesn't matter. It is never "medically appropriate".

 

[essentialsaltes]

That literally doesn't matter. It is never "medically appropriate".

The medical profession determines what is medically appropriate.

 

[Yttrium]

Well, good. I wouldn't be opposed to banning the surgery for minors (with possible exceptions), but banning all gender-affirming care without having a reliable, medically approved alternative is just ridiculous. And it gets even worse if they're also trying to limit care for adults.

 

[Zaha Torte]

The medical profession determines what is medically appropriate.

You mean like when they determined that bloodletting and trepanation were appropriate?

I need nothing more than common sense to know there is no need for such procedures.

In fifty years - people are going to look back in shock at how stupid all of this was and wonder why we let it happen.

 

[RileyG]

"Sex-reassignment" surgery or any "gender-affirming" procedures are never "medically appropriate" - even for adults.

There does not need to be any history of such mutilations happening in Florida for DeSantis to act proactively to protect Floridian children in the future.

Are not allowing children to get tattoos, smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, drive motor vehicles and engage in sexual relations with adults also unconstitutional?

I’m all for banning it for minors.

If adults really want to identify as transgendered, get surgery and so on, that’s their choice.

 

[Zaha Torte]

I’m all for banning it for minors.

If adults really want to identify as transgendered, get surgery and so on, that’s their choice.

Agreed - but it still would not be "medically appropriate".

 

[RileyG]

Agreed - but it still would not be "medically appropriate".

If they are at risk for suicide because they truly believe they are the opposite gender, maybe some doctors would argue it’s “medically appropriate.”

 

[Zaha Torte]

If they are at risk for suicide because they truly believe they are the opposite gender, maybe some doctors would argue it’s “medically appropriate.”

That can never be proven - and can you imagine! - "Cut me doc or I'll kill myself!"

Would that be reasonable for anyone at all - or just these mentally ill people?

 

[RileyG]

That can never be proven - and can you imagine! - "Cut me doc or I'll kill myself!"

Would that be reasonable for anyone at all - or just these mentally ill people?

I don’t know.

 

[ozso]

The medical profession determines what is medically appropriate.

Until it's discovered to be harmful. Many would rather not wait until then, after it's too late.

 

[RileyG]

Until it's discovered to be harmful. Many would rather not wait until then, after it's too late.

I said it before and I’ll say it again. We’ll look back on trans surgeries the same way we now look at lobotomies.

 

[ozso]

American medicine is the best in the world, but we're also home to many medically unnecessary surgeries, perhaps 7.5 million procedures.

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[ozso]

I said it before and I’ll say it again. We’ll look back on trans surgeries the same way we now look at lobotomies.

If it wasn't for push-back a lot more bad stuff would've taken place.

 

[Pommer]

I haven’t seen the law, have we a source for the statute in question?

If a male child had undescended testicles, were doctors not allowed to perform the surgical procedure that would have remedied this condition?

 

[Zaha Torte]

I haven’t seen the law, have we a source for the statute in question?

If a male child had undescended testicles, were doctors not allowed to perform the surgical procedure that would have remedied this condition?

I would assume that it would be allowed because it would not be castrating the little guy.

 

[RoBo1988]

The medical profession determines what is medically appropriate.

Especially when the Pritksker family ( Hyatt hotels, governor of Illinois)is helping to bankroll it.

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[ozso]

I haven’t seen the law, have we a source for the statute in question?

If a male child had undescended testicles, were doctors not allowed to perform the surgical procedure that would have remedied this condition?

AI Overview:
Surgery for undescended testicles, also known as orchiopexy, is an outpatient procedure that involves moving the testicles into the scrotum. A surgeon will typically perform orchiopexy if a child's ball doesn't descend on its own before their first birthday.

What's your point?