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Jews don't believe in the devil, fyi. What is your expertise on Islam? Did you take a course in Islamic studies? Have you visited a mosque or a Muslim country?
I do not like Islam and am not at all inclined to defend it. However during the holocaust it was mainly Muslim countries that sheltered and defended Jews while Christian America and Europe told us to buzz off:
Arab and Muslim rescue efforts during the Holocaust - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
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The Forgotten Stories of Muslims Who Saved Jewish People During the Holocaust
“They're an important reminder today, even more so given the rise of hatred"time.com
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The Muslims who saved Jews from the Holocaust
A new exhibition aims to celebrate the role Muslims played in saving Jewish lives during the Holocaust.www.bbc.com
Also:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPSCzzuXUAAO1H8?format=jpg&name=small (Muslim woman hiding yellow star of her neighbour)![]()
Muslim women wear kippahs over their hijabs in solidarity with Jewish community after antisemitic attack
'Kippah march' triggered by assault in Berlin of two young men wearing skullcapswww.independent.co.uk
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The story behind the viral photo of Muslim and Jewish children protesting at O’Hare
A Muslim and a Jewish father had never met before bringing their children to O’Hare International Airport Monday to join in a protest of President Donald Trump’s immigration ban. But af…www.chicagotribune.com
I have never once seen any of these stories posted or acknowledged by an evangelical or American Christian on any forum or blog. I actually checked. I wonder why that is? Because you guys don't care and it conflicts with your animus towards Muslims and Arabs.
Jews are also allowed to lie or break most Mitzvot if it is in preservation of the life of oneself or another. if someone were after you with a gun and I were hiding you in my house, I can lie and say I never saw you without it being a sin. If some nazi pointed a gun at me and told me to eat a bacon sandwich, I can do it and in fact am obligated to do so under Halakha.
I'm not blind to the violence and antisemitism in Islamic countries, but don't act like they're any worse then how Christians have historically treated us either. Christians in the U.S. support Israel, not the Jews that live there. Christian Zionist types think G-d is going to give Israel to them after Jesus comes back to wipe the rest of us out, and therefore support Jews only so far as it plays into their apocalyptic beliefs.
It's always said that the devil's greatest deception is convincing everyone he doesn't exist...
as for Islam? I've read Qur'an, and some of the Hadiths and apocalyptic writings of Islamic scholars. Some of which are striking, their eschatology is the anti-parallel of Christian eschatology. It's the same story but told from the opposing side.
Individual Muslims may or may not adhere to those doctrines just as individual Christians may or may not adhere to Christian doctrines, but the doctrines should be considered rather than individual adherence to them or being lax about them.
There are different Christian doctrines as well. Primarily on Europe, where Catholicism reigned, Jews are seen as Christ-killers and they view the Church as supplanting Israel in the Lord's plans.
This is however biblically false.
Evangelicals which you wrongly demonize, believe in the Jewish people's future redemption, admittedly we believe it will be through Jews looking on Him whom they pierced and mourning as if for a first born son, repenting, and accepting your Messiah. But we see redemption where in Islam they see eradication.
Zechariah 12
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
Who can pour the spirit of grace and supplication on the house of David and inhabitants of Jerusalem?
Who did they (the house of David and inhabitants of Jerusalem) pierce?
and why would they mourn for piercing Him?
Matthew 27
22 Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified.
23 And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.
24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
so yes, replacement theologists who do not believe in a future redemption of Israel are likely to mistreat Jews, seeing Christ's blood being spilt at their hands.
but they miss the big picture, and the awesome miracle of Israel's repentance and salvation.
Romans 11 promises it, Zechariah 12, and Revelation 7 show it.
Meanwhile Islam, from one of the Hadiths, Sahih al-Bukhari
Sahih al-Bukhari
from the 94th Chapter "fighting against the Jews"
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews until some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O `Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'"
as I said earlier, within Islam they do not believe the Resurrection will happen until they destroy the Jews.Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
So sure, you can give anecdotes about Muslims who do not strictly follow their beliefs not mistreating Jews
but you are in essence relying on people not acting on what their religion believes.
What happens when you encounter those who truly believe?
If a Christian truly believes the bible, they see your future salvation. We may witness to you, pray for you, and try to bless you, but the furthest thing we want is for your harm, because we see a plan of God in the works and want to see it fulfilled.
and it's fulfillment is your salvation and your joy.
if a Muslim truly believes the Qur'an and the Hadiths? they want you dead, so that the last day can happen and the resurrection. To them your existence is impeding their eternal life.
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