Facts to disprove theory of evolution

[Astrid]

Aquatic animals breathe oxygen. What did you think they use for metabolism?

In fairness I think our friend meant "(atmospheric.) air breathing"

 

[Larniavc]

There's the classic Cambrian rabbit, though that would more throw a wrench into phylogeny and our understanding of the tree of life than Evolution itself.

Perhaps if we found 2 people (or any 2 animals really) with completely different DNA, and I mean COMPLETELY different, but that were "twins." That would be something that would throw Evolution into disarray. (TBF, could be aliens too).

If an offspring of a parent actually came out as a different species (though I guess that could be aliens too. See Xenomorph).

The progeny of a face hugger is still the same specie (Internecivus raptus) but uses the dna of the host to add genetic variation. The best way to view it is the face hugger is a macro spermatozoa that induces the host’s body mass to act a an analogue to the placenta.

 

[Larniavc]

Primates and humans have never produced offspring. Unless you know of a case, it is an impossibility.

Humans are primates.

 

[Larniavc]

Personally, my favorite story from evolutionary theory is the one where that cow who walked out of the sea one day decides to walk back into the sea and become a whale. What a brilliant, visionary move. When you compare how much beef McDonald's sells to how much whale blubber they sell...brilliant move. <slow clap>

That’s a stupid idea. Who ever told you that happened?

 

[Larniavc]

Page #2 .. and we haven't seen anything which even remotely looks like facts to disprove the ToE.

A message in our DNA saying when, where and who by the cell was built.

 

[Astrid]

It certainly would. But creationism would not be the fallback position. That took a hike years ago.

That may be the most sensible post your friend ever wrote


Failed predictions can also disprove a theory. Or a story.

 

[Astrid]

Then at which point did the apes become Adam and Eve the first humans in the eyes of God?

That is calling for speculation on a religious
topic.
IF ToE is false, there are facts in abundance
to disprove it. Imoossible for it to be otherwise.

The question is to name one of those facts.

 

[Astrid]

Lots of fish have swim bladders that can fill with air.

Actually...not quite..
Air bladders are structures derived from what were at
one time functioning lungs.
They now serve no respiratory function.

 

[sfs]

Actually...not quite..
Air bladders are structures derived from what were at
one time functioning lungs.

I know. That's why I said that lungs were the ancestral state.

 

[Larniavc]

Air bladders are structures derived from what were at
one time functioning lungs.

TIL that swim bladders came from lungs and not the other way around- thanks for the knowledge

 

[BCP1928]

I've thought about it some and am inclined to
agree with @Chesterton, that it's a distinction
sans difference.

Yes, I was rude to cut him off like that, but asserting that they are identical in all respects is a standard set-up for a classic creationist argument that I am not interested in any more. Maybe he'll try it out on you.

 

[AV1611VET]

The question is to name one of those facts.

If none are named, are you willing to admit evolution is not a viable theory yet, based on the "fact" that theories should be falsifiable?

And if evolution is already a viable theory, then name something that will pwn it.

 

[Astrid]

I know. That's why I said that lungs were the ancestral state.

Ah so desu ka

 

[Astrophile]

What sort of facts could disprove it?

Does anyone have any?

If it were shown that the same species of living organisms (animals, plants, fungi, micro-organisms, etc.) appeared as fossils throughout the geological column from the Precambrian to the Holocene, that would disprove evolution. However, that is not what is observed.

 

[Astrophile]

His understanding of natural selection was already understood by every uneducated farmer and rancher for a few thousand years. His great "insight" that a monkey could become a man has never been shown to be anything other speculative fiction, not unlike the work of Sigmund Freud and L. Ron Hubbard.

Can you say what facts prove that humans (whose fossil remains first appear in Pleistocene rocks) are not descended from apes that lived during the Miocene epoch?

 

[Astrid]

If it were shown that the same species of living organisms (animals, plants, fungi, micro-organisms, etc.) appeared as fossils throughout the geological column from the Precambrian to the Holocene, that would disprove evolution. However, that is not what is observed.

That would do it. But the facts, faked by either
God or Satan depending whose opinion, show
the opposite.

 

[Astrid]

Can you say what facts prove that humans (whose fossil remains first appear in Pleistocene rocks) are not descended from apes that lived during the Miocene epoch?

Snark is a poor substitute for facts but
it serves an unintended purpose, revealing as
it does that it's all the denialistas have.

 

[AV1611VET]

Ah so desu ka

Be careful!

The expression "ah so" comes from the Japanese ā sō desu ka? ("oh, is that so?"), which is sometimes shortened to "ah so". Although sometimes used as mock-Chinese, the phrase is Japanese in origin.

SOURCE

I took flak for saying "Arab phone".

(Don't worry though. I don't think they'll say a word to you. )

 

[AV1611VET]

If it were shown that the same species of living organisms (animals, plants, fungi, micro-organisms, etc.) appeared as fossils throughout the geological column from the Precambrian to the Holocene, that would disprove evolution.

Or geology.

 

[AV1611VET]

Snark is a poor substitute for facts but it serves an unintended purpose, revealing as it does that it's all the denialistas have.

Speaking of denialists, my pastor, who is a YEC, makes the point that, of all the dating methods in existence, scientists will only take those that return deep time; and make up excuses why the others don't work.

This thread is a prime example:

MOONDUST