[Jenna Ellis] told Georgia prosecutors that a top presidential aide said to her in December 2020 that “the boss” did not plan to leave the White House “under any circumstances,” according to a video recording obtained by The Washington Post.
Although some of the recordings were garbled, the portions of the four statements that The Post was able to review — from Ellis, lawyers Kenneth Chesebro and Sidney Powell, and Georgia bail bondsman Scott Hall — offered many previously undisclosed details about the effort by Trump and his allies to reverse his defeat.
Asked why she thought Trump did that [i.e. ignored his own White House legal advisors and kept encouraging Sidney Powell], Powell replied, “Because we were the only ones willing to support his effort to sustain the White House. I mean, everybody else was telling him to pack up and go.”
Powell also said that Giuliani spoke of a plan to gain access to voting equipment at a Dec. 18, 2020, meeting with Trump and others in the Oval Office. And Hall appeared to implicate another defendant, lawyer Robert Cheeley, describing Cheeley as part of the “brain trust” planning the Coffee County scheme.
Powell described in vivid detail the Dec. 18, 2020, Oval Office meeting at which she sought the appointment as special counsel. She recalled calling Meadows the next morning to say, “Hey, when can I come pick up my badge and my key?” and said Meadows “essentially laughed” and said, “You know, it’s not going to happen.”
- Powell said that if Trump had appointed her special counsel to investigate election irregularities, as she had urged him to do in that Dec. 18 Oval Office meeting, she would have sought to seize election equipment and would have considered using the military to do so.
- Hall also revealed a previously undisclosed role in alleged harassment of Ruby Freeman... Hall said Cheeley approached him to help locate Freeman, and he surmised that he was tapped because of his skills tracking people down as a bail bondsman.
Ellis said she had not initially been privy to the “fake elector plot” and believed “it had been shielded from me specifically” — though she did not elaborate on why. Ellis said she became aware of the effort when she was added to a group text chain about the plan that included Giuliani, Epshteyn, Roman and Eastman.
Again citing concerns about attorney-client privilege, prosecutors asked Ellis not to divulge the substance of the text messages and limited their questioning about the conference call.
Prosecutors asked Hall whether he recalled discussing the violence that was unfolding at the U.S. Capitol that day [on Jan 6].
“I don’t have any recollection of conversations about that,” Hall replied.
Hall’s [own defense] lawyer exploded.
“Scott, Scott, listen,” he said. “That event was a gigantic, major event in the history of our nation. It involved the Trump campaign, the Trump supporters. This was something that is in everyone’s minds forever who watched it. So when you’re asked the question, and you go, ‘I might have, it could have been,’ I mean, everybody that I know was glued to the TV and couldn’t believe what was happening. How could they not be watching it in Cheeley’s office?”