Is humanity an evolution of data cloning ?

[fredis]

Humanity is the word to describe the human race ... it's not something taught ....

Not true , you didn't know as a baby thou shall not kill , thou shall not steal . You are taught to be human and have human values . You evolve as you are being taught .

 

[fredis]

Again; talking so much that you're saying nothing.

Perhaps it is your understanding , I have said a lot already . Maybe it would help you understand if you re-read the thread and think for a while about what I have explained .

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Perhaps it is your understanding , I have said a lot already . Maybe it would help you understand if you re-read the thread and think for a while about what I have explained .

No, my understanding is perfectly fine. You just don't know a single thing of what you're talking about. Humans are not data, the soul is not data, names are not data (though only in the most axiomatic sense), and a human only evolves as they grow if we use the blandest, most insincere defintion of evolution.

 

[fredis]

No, my understanding is perfectly fine.

Quite clearly your understanding is not fine or you wouldn't be saying I don't know what I am talking about .

I opened this thread so obvious I know what I am talking about .

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Quite clearly your understanding is not fine or you wouldn't be saying I don't know what I am talking about .

I opened this thread so obvious I know what I am talking about .

And yet, you have people such as I disagreeing with you.

 

[fredis]

And yet, you have people such as I disagreeing with you.

Disagreeing only because you can't quite grasp what I am saying .

Ok, let me explain a different way .

Stephen goes out shopping and Stephen wants some aftershave .

Stephens body doesn't need aftershave or want aftershave .


Stephen, the set of data that exists within the sentients mind , it wants the aftershave .

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Disagreeing only because you can't quite grasp what I am saying .

Ok, let me explain a different way .

Stephen goes out shopping and Stephen wants some aftershave .

Stephens body doesn't need aftershave or want aftershave .


Stephen, the set of data that exists within the sentients mind , it wants the aftershave .

You've not even once shown how the thoughts of Stephen can be called data.

 

[fredis]

You've not even once shown how the thoughts of Stephen can be called data.

What else would you call words if not data ?

Stephen is a collection of words , if I removed all the words from the sentient mind then the body lives on but Stephen no longer exists .

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What else would you call words if not data ?

Stephen is a collection of words , if I removed all the words from the sentient mind then the body lives on but Stephen no longer exists .

No, Stephen is not a collection of words. Words simply a form of vocal expression. Stephen, or any human for that matter, does not stop to exist because they can't speak or express themselves with words.

And you've still not shown how thoughts can be called data. Not once have you presented anything to back up anything you've said. All you have done is made claim after claim after claim with not a shred of evidence to back them up.

 

[fredis]

No, Stephen is not a collection of words. Words simply a form of vocal expression. Stephen, or any human for that matter, does not stop to exist because they can't speak or express themselves with words.

And you've still not shown how thoughts can be called data. Not once have you presented anything to back up anything you've said. All you have done is made claim after claim after claim with not a shred of evidence to back them up.

I am sorry to ''nag'' you , but you are only looking at the outside of a box .

Jack lives inside a box . One day somebody destroyed Jack but left the box .


Can't you see that Jack is independent of the box ?

 

[YorkieGal]

YorkieGal walks off and prays for Stephen because she is helpless in her attempts to assist with rational discussion.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I am sorry to ''nag'' you , but you are only looking at the outside of a box .

Jack lives inside a box . One day somebody destroyed Jack but left the box .


Can't you see that Jack is independent of the box ?

Do you have any evidence to support your claim that human thoughts are data and that humans are only humans because of said data?

YorkieGal walks off and prays for Stephen because she is helpless in her attempts to assist with rational discussion.

There's nothing rational about what's going on here...

 

[fredis]

Do you have any evidence to support your claim that human thoughts are data and that humans are only humans because of said data?



There's nothing rational about what's going on here...

Words are evidence of human clone data or we wouldn't be having this discussion !

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Words are evidence of human clone data or we wouldn't be having this discussion !

You've not explained what you mean by 'clone data' so that's a worthless standard to go with.

I really cannot accept your claim that you are a scientist. I really cannot.

 

[fredis]

You've not explained what you mean by 'clone data' so that's a worthless standard to go with.

I really cannot accept your claim that you are a scientist. I really cannot.

Have you ever listened to a music cd ?

Music cd's are mass produced using data cloning .

Cloning is an exact copy .

Data is information .

When I and you learnt words , I and you have the same data cloned words .


Would you like me to switch to scientist ''mode'' but then it might be even more difficult to understand ?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Have you ever listened to a music cd ?

Music cd's are mass produced using data cloning .

Cloning is an exact copy .

Data is information .

When I and you learnt words , I and you have the same data cloned words .


Would you like me to switch to scientist ''mode'' but then it might be even more difficult to understand ?

Humans are no CDs.

Education is not data cloning, since it is never the exact same information taught year after year. A parent teaching a child is not universal, nor does it create a clone of the parent in the child.

As I said before, Stephen is Stephen because of his reactions to his upbringing, his upbringing, and his reactions to the world around him. All of those things will not be the same as those of his parents, so therefore, it is not cloned data since it is not the same data.

 

[fredis]

Humans are no CDs.

Education is not data cloning, since it is never the exact same information taught year after year. A parent teaching a child is not universal, nor does it create a clone of the parent in the child.

As I said before, Stephen is Stephen because of his reactions to his upbringing, his upbringing, and his reactions to the world around him. All of those things will not be the same as those of his parents, so therefore, it is not cloned data since it is not the same data.

I never said humans were CDs , I was giving you an example of how data cloning works .

You are now confusing cloned data and teaching methods and arrangements of constants .

When we are first taught , we first learn words , these words are constants regardless of arrangement in a sentence or methods .


These constants are your neurological reference frame , you neurological select these constants when you want to write or talk .

Ok, I have gone all scientific now , was hoping to keep the conversation more formal .

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I never said humans were CDs , I was giving you an example of how data cloning works .

You are now confusing cloned data and teaching methods and arrangements of constants .

When we are first taught , we first learn words , these words are constants regardless of arrangement in a sentence or methods .


These constants are your neurological reference frame , you neurological select these constants when you want to write or talk .

Ok, I have gone all scientific now , was hoping to keep the conversation more formal .

You're the one conflating education with clones data. You directly said it in your first post!

Yes, humans speak words because they are able to and allow humans to express themselves easily.

That is still not evidence that human thoughs are cloned data.

 

[eleos1954]

A “Human being” is a biological designation for those of the species Homo sapiens.

 

[fredis]

You're the one conflating education with clones data. You directly said it in your first post!

Yes, humans speak words because they are able to and allow humans to express themselves easily.

That is still not evidence that human thoughs are cloned data.

I have already provided the evidence in our conversation , words .

If your N.R.F did not contain in memory , cloned data , you couldn't have this conversation .

If your native language was different , you'd still have neuro-constants but the evolution of the N.R.F would have variation , example cat=katze