How to stop abortions

[Ivan Hlavanda]

I was taught that it was OK when God killed millions of unborn children in the flood, and they all deserved it because humans begin to sin immediately after conception. Was that not correct?

God creates life, He takes it away. Does God not have a right to do with His creation what ever He pleases? People constantly complain God allows evil, then when God stops it, they complain also. We constantly judge against God, we constantly do evil. Yet God's grace is that He judges no one today (so we can still repent and come to Jesus), but one day He will. And then God will be the one judging and humanity will have to answer.

 

[Hammster]

and make mommy to be an incubator which can be detained for any act deemed dangerous to her and the unborn child because they are one in the same. It is going to be fun....

So you admit it’s a child. Good on ya.

 

[Hammster]

If a pregnant woman would purchase a ticket for an airline flight could the airline charge her for two people?

Only one seat is being used, so why would they?

 

[Hammster]

Well, let's hope a state passes a personhood amendment, so we can see your plan in action. The resulting legal complications should be very interesting.

Yeah. I know the courts don’t normally prosecute people for murder…oh wait. They already do. Never mind.

 

[Hammster]

Equal rights? Are you sure about that??

Let me ask you something...do you currently have the right to invade another person's property, stay there for several months without permission or consent, and cannot be ejected by the property owner?

If you don't have that right, and in fact, no one does...why do you feel granting this right to an embryo is equal?

What you want is for embryos to have superior rights than all other human beings. You want them to have rights no one else has, and you want women, particularly pregnant women, to have less than everyone else.

Admit it.

Then...justify it. With US law.

If you can do that, maybe you'll have a point.

-- A2SG, otherwise.....well....

The fact that you call pregnancy an invasion is by far the absolutely most stupid argument I’ve ever heard, and I think I lost some brain cells just reading it.

 

[Larniavc]

It wouldn't have to.

Do you know what a vasectomy is and what it does?

 

[dwb001]

Do you know what a vasectomy is and what it does?

Yes. I have had it done.

And that does not address the gendered question. You are barking up the wrong gender.
If you want males to be included in the discussion start a thread that asks a gendered male question not a gendered female question.

 

[Larniavc]

It's quite silly to suggest that we on the right want to punish women for having sex leading to pregnancy.

Then why the war on sex ed and contraception? For all the world it seems as if the largely Christian right in America wants to limit child birth to strictly Christian parameters by discouraging education, contraceptives and pushing abstinence. And women forced to carry a pregnancy to term directly feeds into this.

So it is about punishment: for not doing sex the Christian way.

 

[Larniavc]

Yes. I have had it done.

And that does not address the gendered question. You are barking up the wrong gender.
If you want males to be included in the discussion start a thread that asks a gendered male question not a gendered female question.

Then why did you say it wouldn't have to?

 

[dwb001]

Then why did you say it wouldn't have to?

Failure rate. Medical intervention. Other reasons.

 

[Larniavc]

Failure rate. Medical intervention. Other reasons.

I guess we shouldn't wear seat belts, then

smh

 

[dwb001]

I guess we shouldn't wear seat belts, then

smh

And I have to ask why you are focused on testicles when the question is about the uterus?

Question is about abortions... abortions only occur in conjunction with pregnancy... pregnancy only occurs in one sex.

This is the same as focusing on prostate cancer in females.

 

[Larniavc]

Question is about abortions... abortions only occur in conjunction with pregnancy... pregnancy only occurs in one sex.

You realise that men are involved in pregnancy?

Second thoughts, this conversation is a waste of my time. I'm going to stop replying to you.

 

[dwb001]

You realise that men are involved in pregnancy?

Second thoughts, this conversation is a waste of my time. I'm going to stop replying to you.

They don't have to be. But you do you.

 

[JustOneWay]

So you admit it’s a child. Good on ya.

What I did was take your suggestion and assumed it was a reality, then posted a few hypothetical results which would likely change the lives for pregnant women, their family and the fetus. Any assumption on your part regarding my comment is simply your assumption.

 

[NxNW]

Identical twins start to exist as soon as God starts to create them. How He does it, I have absolutely no idea.

You already said life begins at conception, and now you're backing away from that claim.

You also posted a biblical verse which implies life begins in the womb, and then I pointed out conception occurs in the fallopian tube. So that verse implies that life begins *after* conception.

 

[NxNW]

God creates life, He takes it away. Does God not have a right to do with His creation what ever He pleases?

Shouldn't the same apply to pregnant women?

People constantly complain God allows evil, then when God stops it, they complain also.

Sounds like you are agreeing the unborn are evil.

 

[NxNW]

Your right. Science textbooks say it outright.

Life begins at conception.

Life began billions of years ago.

 

[dwb001]

Life began billions of years ago.

So you don't want to stick to the topic?

 

[Ivan Hlavanda]

You already said life begins at conception, and now you're backing away from that claim

God starts to create life from conception, or maybe even before