‘Our children, our rights’: Scores of parents hit rally opposing MoCo schools’ LGBTQ policies

[Sabri]

I just don’t understand why you think a basic, age appropriate, sex ed class taught by anyone would include graphic descriptions of of sex acts. Why would any teacher, straight or gay, talk in detail about their lived sexual experience to a class of children? To say that it is a reasonable deduction that LGBT teachers would do this specifically is most definitely not reasonable.

Let me give you an example of what my child’s 3rd grade teacher talks about. Teacher:Hey class I’m pregnant.students: Wow that’s neat. Teacher: I’m having a girl. Students: Let’s help Ms. Molly find baby names for her baby. Also, let’s come up with things she needs for the baby shower. My daughter several times through the year. -Mom Ms. Molly was at the Doctor today she has cramps in her back and had to make sure the baby was ok. Me: Oh really. My daughter: MOM Ms. Molly says her and her husband had the baby shower over the weekend. She didn’t invite us. This went on and on throughout the year. One time I wanted to call the teacher and let her know she’s telling the kids too much information. I spoke to a parent who has her child in another class. Her teacher was worse. She let the kids know she had broke up with her boyfriend she was very sad. And needed cheering up. Another parent; Ms. Ann says to the students look my stomach is cramping -ypu girls will find out what I’m talking about when you guys get in 5th or 6th grade today is not the day for you all to act up. Now these are heterosexual teachers. It happens this is what teachers do, give students their lives experience

 

[comana]

Who made anything up. It says leather underwear isnt those odd words for a kindergartner to find in a word puzzle? Straps whips? They might as well let them find the names for private parts. It’s all going down the same rabbit hole. Leading children to start becoming sexually aware at a young age. Opening a child’s mind to adult behavior.

Again, none of that is part of the word search.

 

[comana]

Let me give you an example of what my child’s 3rd grade teacher talks about. Teacher:Hey class I’m pregnant.students: Wow that’s neat. Teacher: I’m having a girl. Students: Let’s help Ms. Molly find baby names for her baby. Also, let’s come up with things she needs for the baby shower. My daughter several times through the year. -Mom Ms. Molly was at the Doctor today she has cramps in her back and had to make sure the baby was ok. Me: Oh really. My daughter: MOM Ms. Molly says her and her husband had the baby shower over the weekend. She didn’t invite us. This went on and on throughout the year. One time I wanted to call the teacher and let her know she’s telling the kids too much information. I spoke to a parent who has her child in another class. Her teacher was worse. She let the kids know she had broke up with her boyfriend she was very sad. And needed cheering up. Another parent; Ms. Ann says to the students look my stomach is cramping -ypu girls will find out what I’m talking about when you guys get in 5th or 6th grade today is not the day for you all to act up. Now these are heterosexual teachers. It happens this is what teachers do, give students their lives experience

Personal lives, yes, what they do in the bedroom, no.

 

[Sabri]

I just don’t understand why you think a basic, age appropriate, sex ed class taught by anyone would include graphic descriptions of of sex acts. Why would any teacher, straight or gay, talk in detail about their lived sexual experience to a class of children? To say that it is a reasonable deduction that LGBT teachers would do this specifically is most definitely not reasonable.

Maybe you haven’t been to a classroom. All teachers, pastors, ministers, professors, medical providers give lived experiences as examples.
My husband is a pastor he teaches and gives lived experiences.
I am a medical provider i teach my patients and give lived experiences where applicable
All of my medical colleagues - have you heard of bias with medical providers. This is why? We know our lived experiences shapes the way we talk and or treat our patients.
My kids teacher, my friends children’s teacher ALl share lived experiences with their students. Do you have kids? None of this is made up. Have you ever went to a college? This is what happens. My daughters know all about their teachers personal lives. When teaching about subjects they give lived experiences.
Have you ever taught anything? This is what instructors of any kind will do. I also teach a CNA course all of the Nurses do the same thing.
Lived experience is the go to for instructors.
Please read below. Using Lived Experience as Educator Expertise | Outschool Support

 

[Sabri]

Again, none of that is part of the word search.

You said it said l for leather and i for underwear. Stop!

 

[Sabri]

Personal lives, yes, what they do in the bedroom, no.

You flip flop and say who does that. I prove to you. Then you say yes their personal lives and then say not what they do in the bedroom. What they do in the bedroom is a part of their personal life. I’m done here because you know the argument is valid.

 

[comana]

You said it said l for leather and i for underwear. Stop!

Which is not what you said, Leather Underwear. You know there is a difference and chose to misconstrue with connotations.

 

[comana]

You flip flop and say who does that. I prove to you. Then you say yes their personal lives and then say not what they do in the bedroom. What they do in the bedroom is a part of their personal life. I’m done here because you know the argument is valid.

No, it is not. You single out LGBTQ teachers as likely to discuss their personal bedroom experiences with children. Yet compare that to teachers talking about being married or having a baby. How can you not see the difference? I think it’s safe to assume that when you talk to people and mention your husband that you don’t include the details of your bedroom time together.

 

[comana]

Maybe you haven’t been to a classroom. All teachers, pastors, ministers, professors, medical providers give lived experiences as examples.
My husband is a pastor he teaches and gives lived experiences.
I am a medical provider i teach my patients and give lived experiences where applicable
All of my medical colleagues - have you heard of bias with medical providers. This is why? We know our lived experiences shapes the way we talk and or treat our patients.
My kids teacher, my friends children’s teacher ALl share lived experiences with their students. Do you have kids? None of this is made up. Have you ever went to a college? This is what happens. My daughters know all about their teachers personal lives. When teaching about subjects they give lived experiences.
Have you ever taught anything? This is what instructors of any kind will do. I also teach a CNA course all of the Nurses do the same thing.
Lived experience is the go to for instructors.
Please read below. Using Lived Experience as Educator Expertise | Outschool Support

Elementary and Secondary level teachers do not give details of their own personal sex lives to children in the classroom. I don’t know how else to say it. Any teacher who does that will be arrested.

 

[rjs330]

I have. Can you link me to some evidence?

I can't post the pride pictures as they are a violation of the rules here. But here is an article about the teddy bears.

Photographer who shot Balenciaga ad featuring ‘BDSM’ teddy bears breaks silence

Spanish luxury brand issued apology for campaign and pulled images from its website and social media

www.independent.co.uk

 

[2PhiloVoid]

At the age of 8. Sex acts? No that’s too soon

Yes, I agree. And it doesn't help that due to changes in the overall legal philosophy of our nation (the U.S.), both corporate business and public education do a sloppy job of protecting children from sexually explicit aspects of "life."

It was that way when I was growing up in the 1970's; it's even more so now...

 

[Larniavc]

Here’s a link

'Family-friendly' Pride parade in West Hollywood had men depicting graphic BDSM sexual act

A West Hollywood gay Pride Parade that was advertised as family-friendly drew social media attention for a graphic sexual act.

www.foxnews.com

Yeah, that’s not really on. I agree.

 

[rjs330]

Personally, I do this as a mental health provider.

That's good, but in schools when they teach that boys can be girls they are not telling them it's a mental health disorder. They are not giving them the full picture. Are they telling them all the problems that go along with it? The continuation of suicidiality, the problems with the drugs and surgeries? Of course not they are telling them with a nice little rainbow unicorn. Makes it sound so much more pleasant and nice that way.

This is a serious problem for these people and ought to be treated that way. Not made to sound like a lovely thing with teddy bears and rainbows.

 

[Larniavc]

Balenciaga ‘BDSM teddy bear’ photographer speaks out amid backlash

One photo also showed what appeared to be an excerpt from a US Supreme Court case that upheld part of a federal child pornography law.

nypost.com

What does that have to do with the Pride March? It’s BDSM granted, but nothing indicates it has anything to do with being gaywise. Seems more like those no good heterosexuals are up to their old sexy tricks again.

 

[comana]

I can't post the pride pictures as they are a violation of the rules here. But here is an article about the teddy bears.

Photographer who shot Balenciaga ad featuring ‘BDSM’ teddy bears breaks silence

Spanish luxury brand issued apology for campaign and pulled images from its website and social media

www.independent.co.uk

I didn’t see anything about the teddy bear being something they market for kids or even sell. It was a very poorly conceived ad campaign for a brand that is hardly mainstream.

Upon checking further it is not even a toy but a handbag. Balenciaga hand bags range from $800 to $5000 based on a quick look at their website. Definitely not marketing for children.

 

[Larniavc]

Let me give you an example of what my child’s 3rd grade teacher talks about. Teacher:Hey class I’m pregnant.students: Wow that’s neat. Teacher: I’m having a girl. Students: Let’s help Ms. Molly find baby names for her baby. Also, let’s come up with things she needs for the baby shower. My daughter several times through the year. -Mom Ms. Molly was at the Doctor today she has cramps in her back and had to make sure the baby was ok. Me: Oh really. My daughter: MOM Ms. Molly says her and her husband had the baby shower over the weekend. She didn’t invite us. This went on and on throughout the year. One time I wanted to call the teacher and let her know she’s telling the kids too much information. I spoke to a parent who has her child in another class. Her teacher was worse. She let the kids know she had broke up with her boyfriend she was very sad. And needed cheering up. Another parent; Ms. Ann says to the students look my stomach is cramping -ypu girls will find out what I’m talking about when you guys get in 5th or 6th grade today is not the day for you all to act up. Now these are heterosexual teachers. It happens this is what teachers do, give students their lives experience

I think all that is to be applauded. There are no downsides apart from the parent’s pearl clutching as far as I can see.

 

[HARK!]

If there was a republican, and half of their potential constituents they were trying to win over were Catholic and the other half were Baptist, and I asked them these questions "Mr. So&So, with regards Christianity, which of the two denominations is the true form of Christianity?"

This is a false dichotomy. Are you suggesting that either males or females are anything less than human?

 

[rjs330]

Personally, I do this as a mental health provider.

That's good, but in schools when they teach that boys can be girls they are not telling them it's a mental health disorder. They are not giving them the full picture. Are they telling them all the problems that go along with it? The continuation of suicidiality, the problems with the drugs and surgeries? Of course not they are telling them with a nice little rainbow unicorn. Makes it sound so much more pleasant and nice that way.

This is a serious problem for these people and ought to be treated that way. Not made to sound like a lovely thing with teddy bears and rainbows.

In the context & setting in which that question is asked, it often is a loaded question.

As noted before, it's basically a setup to make them look bad to one side or the other.

The example I provided before is comparable.

If there was a republican, and half of their potential constituents they were trying to win over were Catholic and the other half were Baptist, and I asked them these questions "Mr. So&So, with regards Christianity, which of the two denominations is the true form of Christianity?"
Followed up with
"What do you think about someone who claims to be a Christian, but also consumes alcohol?"
And finally
"Do you think the concept of confessing sins to a priest biblical?"



Would they give me a straight answer on those? Or would they be more likely to give vague dodging answers along the the lines of
"Well, I feel that everyone's faith is a personal matter"
or
"I think everyone has their own way of relating to God"
or
"It's not my place to judge how anyone worships God"


Obviously everyone has their own personal answer to those questions, but people hesitate to give an answer when the whole premise for asking isn't in good faith, and is coming from a place of "My side already dislikes you, so let's have you answer this question in which your only choices are to make my side dislike you more, or make your own side dislike you"

Asking them to define woman isn't in good faith? It's a simple question. Yes there are consequences to answering that. But you have to look at the larger picture. The picture is the absurdity that they can't answer the question. When on earth did asking someone "what is a woman" become so controversial? And why?

It's not at all the same thing as asking someone which denomination is the truest form of Christianity.

It's a simple question. What is a woman? It goes to the heart of gender ideology. A belief system that is in no way based upon biology or reality.

Ask anyone who does not believe in it and they can tell you straight up. It's because this is a belief system. It's not based on reality.

You are talking about religion. Which is far a different matter. Unless you're trying to say that transgenderism is a religion. Which I don't think you really are. But the comparables are there.

People who can't answer the question either don't because they know the truth will offend people and they don't want the backlash from it. Or they don't believe in a truth.

I've heard the interviews. "Who's truth are you talking about? Your truth or their truth?"

It's an ideology. A belief system that is not based upon anything real.

The question is meant to get to the heart of the matter. Which is these people don't really believe in truth or reality. They don't believe in biology. They believe in feelings which are amorphous things which can change moment to moment day to day. The lgbt folks would get angry because they do believe a woman is only based upon what you feel at any given moment and has no basis is biological reality.

 

[rjs330]

What does that have to do with the Pride March? It’s BDSM granted, but nothing indicates it has anything to do with being gaywise. Seems more like those no good heterosexuals are up to their old sexy tricks again.

Have you never heard of the gay straight alliance? I think you have. You think Target this company etc all all LGBTQ people?

It's not just lgbt folks pushing this it's also their heterosexual supporters who support and push this. I made a statement and you asked for evidence. Well I gave it. Someone else gave you evidence as well and I hope she doesn't get in trouble for it.

This teddy bear had a child with it. Along with court papers on child porn. When you have a child holding then teddy bear it's marketing to children. Either that or marketing to perverted adults who like to see kids holding BDSM teddy bears. Or probably both.

You asked for evidence that kink was part of all this and we provided it to you.

Point was made. What you do with it is on you.

 

[Belk]

Why? It's certainly relevant to the case when people can't define woman anymore. It just goes to who you how this is a belief system.

And there is the straw man. Take it up with someone who is willing to indulge this silly talking point. I am not.