Can people who disagree on abortion stop attacking each other?

[YahuahSaves]

I said brain dead.

But I didn't. You made the assumption. And you also skipped the other examples I gave.

 

[coffee4u]

This seems to imply that we lack free will, and that everything is preordained.

God knows everything that will happen. He already knows who will be lost and who will be saved.
Who will be born and what they will do in life including their thoughts.

Psalm 139 also includes:
You know when I sit and when I rise;
you perceive my thoughts from afar.
3 You discern my going out and my lying down;
you are familiar with all my ways.
4 Before a word is on my tongue
you, Lord, know it completely.

I don't view his foreknowing as preordained. That would indicates some kind of arbitrary choosing and that isn't what God does. God wants all to be saved but he already sees those who have died, who are living and those yet to come as already saved or lost from the creation of the world. God is outside of time and not held to past, present and future. How exactly that works is not something for us to fully understand until we stand in his presence.

 

[David Collins]

why are you trying to do this?

@ atheists. can i get an answer here?

@NxNW @Desk trauma

 

[Desk trauma]

I wasn't asking about the word abortion. I was asking about the word innocent.

The dictionary definition will do, now, your point is?

 

[Desk trauma]

@ atheists. can i get an answer here?

@NxNW @Desk trauma

See post 511.

 

[All Becomes New]

The dictionary definition will do, now, your point is?

At what point does an innocent human being become a person?

 

[YahuahSaves]

The dictionary definition will do, now, your point is?

Are the preborn not "legally blameless"?

 

[Desk trauma]

At what point does an innocent human being become a person?

Let's say third trimester, now what?

 

[Desk trauma]

Are the preborn not "legally blameless"?

Sure, now what?

 

[All Becomes New]

Let's say third trimester, now what?

Then I ask you for evidence to support your view.

 

[David Collins]

When I can keep the snark under control which is less and less frequent.

what do you mean by snark?

 

[Desk trauma]

Then I ask you for evidence to support your view.

It's my arbitrary opinion, how do you propose I give evidence?

 

[Desk trauma]

what do you mean by snark?

Sarcasm, cynicism, snide remarks.

 

[All Becomes New]

It's my arbitrary opinion, how do you propose I give evidence?

Don't know. I'll just ask if you believe in objective truth next, I guess.

 

[YahuahSaves]

Sure, now what?

Then by saying that, you admit aborting the preborn is killing the innocent.

 

[Desk trauma]

Don't know. I'll just ask if you believe in objective truth next, I guess.

It's an arbitrary line I drew for the sake of an answer.

 

[Desk trauma]

Then by saying that, you admit aborting the preborn is killing the innocent.

Does this mean you get to declare victory now? Is there cake involved?

 

[David Collins]

Sarcasm, cynicism, snide remarks.

i was saying, that as a christian. i believe abortion is murder. what are you suggesting i do?

 

[NxNW]

Separate sharing the same DNA. Even if we go along with your little ploy, once they have separated, they both have their own DNA so are then both individual humans at that point.

The fact that they separate after conception is the complication which defeats the claim that life begins at conception.

 

[YahuahSaves]

Does this mean you get to declare victory now? Is there cake involved?

Is there a victory if you don't change your mind that abortion is murder? I don’t think so.