Rejection of evolution correlates with racism

[Astrid]

Not sure what you mean by half right but I'm not changing my views to please others. Some of the things I had been led to believe were wrong.

" to please othrers" isnt in the mix.
That would be stupid, morally weak and intellectually
dishonest.
Id never reccomend such a thing.

" Half right" being about flood "adequately" explaining.

Do you mean flood explains some of it?

We all have believed things we learned are not so.

My earlier comment had to do with the extraordinary difficulty
fundamentalists have in admitting to the tiniest error in matters
of faith v fact

 

[BPPLEE]

" to please othrers" isnt in the mix.
That would be stupid, morally weak and intellectually
dishonest.
Id never reccomend such a thing.

" Half right" being about flood "adequately" explaining.

Do you mean flood explains some of it?

We all have believed things we learned are not so.

My earlier comment had to do with the extraordinary difficulty
fundamentalists have in admitting to the tiniest error in matters
of faith v fact

I didn't mean the flood explained part of it. A global flood doesn't explain the fossil record. It's too complicated to just say it is the result of the flood of Genesis

 

[Astrid]

I didn't mean the flood explained part of it. A global flood doesn't explain the fossil record. It's too complicated to just say it is the result of the flood of Genesis

Ok, misread your meaning.
But you hold that there was a flood of genesis?

 

[AV1611VET]

Ok, misread your meaning.
But you hold that there was a flood of genesis?

Where do you think we got our rainbow?

 

[BPPLEE]

Ok, misread your meaning.
But you hold that there was a flood of genesis?

A belief in a literal interpretation of the first 11 chapters of Genesis is not required to be a Christian. I do believe there was a flood though. It didn't necessarily have to be a global flood. There are different views that could be valid.

 

[Astrid]

A belief in a literal interpretation of the first 11 chapters of Genesis is not required to be a Christian. I do believe there was a flood though. It didn't necessarily have to be a global flood. There are different views that could be valid.

I figure there is no way to know what, if anything,
happened to inspire the story.

Its pretty straightforeward to deminstrate some
things did not happen, world wide flood, for one.

 

[ottawak]

A belief in a literal interpretation of the first 11 chapters of Genesis is not required to be a Christian. I do believe there was a flood though. It didn't necessarily have to be a global flood. There are different views that could be valid.

I agree. I think it very likely that the Flood story derives from a catclysm of some kind. There are all kinds of intriguing speculations--the "Black Sea flood, for one. There's another I like, that at the height of the last ice age when sea levels were at their lowest, an advanced civilization thrived in the now-flooded Persian Gulf.

 

[Astrid]

I agree. I think it very likely that the Flood story derives from a catclysm of some kind. There are all kinds of inriguing speculations--the "Black Sea flood, for one. There's another I like, that at the height of the last ice age when sea levels were at their lowest, an advanced civilization thrived in the now-flooded Persian Gulf.

Advanced?

 

[ottawak]

Advanced?

According to the speculation, the rapid rise of Mesopotamian civilisation was sparked by refugees from the Persian Gulf.

 

[BPPLEE]

I figure there is no way to know what, if anything,
happened to inspire the story.

Its pretty straightforeward to deminstrate some
things did not happen, world wide flood, for one.

It depends on who is looking at the evidence and what their preconceived notions are. You can find plenty of material on the internet claiming proof of a global flood. Fossils of sea creatures found at high altitudes or similar claims are often cited. How much of it is accurate I don't know. Here's an example Worldwide Flood, Worldwide Evidence

 

[Astrid]

It depends on who is looking at the evidence and what their preconceived notions are. You can find plenty of material on the internet claiming proof of a global flood. Fossils of sea creatures found at high altitudes or similar claims are often cited. How much of it is accurate I don't know.

Uh, no. What happened or did not does not
depend on personal choice.

But your mention of preconceived ideas
brings us back to what I said about the near
total inability of those committed to fundamentalist
beliefs to just face facts and admit to themselves
that they are off the rails.

There are marine fossils in places far from the sea.

I was taken to a well site in Kansas USA, and bits of
coral, sea shells were coming up from a thousand
meters below the wheatfield.

Elsewhere mountain building has pushed the same
limestone thousands of meters high.

Geology is pretty interesting.

So is polar ice. Its been there many tens of thousands
of years.
Proof enough that Noahs Ark never sailed the seas
of a global flood.

 

[Astrid]

According to the speculation, the rapid rise of Mesopotamian civilisation was sparked by refugees from the Persian Gulf.

Sounds like pure speculation.
I favour evidence

 

[ruthiesea]

Where do you think we got our rainbow?

Do you mean that there was no light refraction prior to the flood? So Hashem also changed the laws of physics as well as destroying most life on Earth?

 

[ottawak]

Do you mean that there was no light refraction prior to the flood? So Hashem also changed the laws of physics as well as destroying most life on Earth?

He did whatever He had to do to make the book of Genesis literal and inerrant.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Why isn't that taught as standard doctrine, then?

I've been a Christian and Bible student for forty years this December, and I've never heard that taught.

Is there a name for this strange doctrine?

Egoism? parsimony? grandeurism? what?

And do we back it up with Scripture?

Since you seem to know it so well, perhaps you can give is a verse or two? or three?

Its not a doctrine.

 

[BPPLEE]

Strange question: Should I believe your corrections too, so I won't be wrong?

I may not have corrections for some of the things I was wrong about. I would just have to say I don't know. Maybe I should say I am not dogmatic about some things I once was.

 

[BPPLEE]

Where do you think we got our rainbow?

It may not have rained before the flood. Does the Bible Teach That It Did Not Rain until the Genesis Flood?

 

[Mr Laurier]

Where do you think we got our rainbow?

The rainbow store in Montreal?

 

[AV1611VET]

Its not a doctrine.

No argument there.

It's not a virtue either; let alone "the highest one."

 

[AV1611VET]

The rainbow store in Montreal?

I hope you don't think the Ark settled there, since Montreal means "Mount Real."