The tip of the ice berg

[Astrid]

Then I apologize for mischaracterizing you I meant nothing about your integrity only your position never post when frustrated

I appreciate the apology, its a rare thing.
I hope you do understand its not blanket
dismissal / "intolerance" of all skepticism!
I just dont have patience for garbage, a
trait we may share.

And, good morning to you from Repulse Bay!

 

[BPPLEE]

According to whom?

I have been called the first two and this thread implies the third

 

[TLK Valentine]

I have been called the first two and this thread implies the third

Well, mere skepticism concerning evolution doesn't inherently mean any of those -- although scratching the surface does occasionally reveal some unpleasant character traits lurking not far underneath.

You, at least, are willing to concede that you don't know a lot about these topics -- which puts you a step above far too many PRATT-echoing creationist crusaders.

 

[BPPLEE]

Well, mere skepticism concerning evolution doesn't inherently mean any of those -- although scratching the surface does occasionally reveal some unpleasant character traits lurking not far underneath.

You, at least, are willing to concede that you don't know a lot about these topics -- which puts you a step above far too many PRATT-echoing creationist crusaders.

I have read a lot of material that turns out to be incorrect or arguments with scant material backing them up and I am trying to be more careful about my sources

 

[Astrid]

Well, mere skepticism concerning evolution doesn't inherently mean any of those -- although scratching the surface does occasionally reveal some unpleasant character traits lurking not far underneath.

You, at least, are willing to concede that you don't know a lot about these topics -- which puts you a step above far too many PRATT-echoing creationist crusaders.

Call it a huge step.

 

[Astrid]

I have read a lot of material that turns out to be incorrect or arguments with scant material backing them up and I am trying to be more careful about my sources

Always a good plan.

In the event you are working with basics of science,
being intrrest / curiosity, and doubting of everything-
theory, sources, and yourself.
We havent met yet a creationist who will even consider he might
be mistaken, in any significant way.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I have read a lot of material that turns out to be incorrect or arguments with scant material backing them up and I am trying to be more careful about my sources

That puts you two steps above too many "skeptics."

 

[AV1611VET]

We havent met yet a creationist who will even consider he might be mistaken, in any significant way.

That bugs you, doesn't it?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I say Pluto is a planet, because I believe it was demoted by way of a rigged vote.

So when you say

4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

What you actually mean is

4. Bible says ø, Science says x = free to speculate on your own
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

You do away with 5

4. Bible says ø = free to speculate on your own

 

[TLK Valentine]

That bugs you, doesn't it?

Arrogance and hubris are traits that should bug anyone who doesn't possess them.

 

[eleos1954]

Are you doing anything to alleviate this alleged oversight?

What oversight would that be?

 

[ottawak]

What oversight would that be?

The oversight which resulted in the credible mathematical calculations disproving evolution not being brought to our attention.

 

[Astrid]

The oversight which resulted in the credible mathematical calculations disproving evolution not being brought to our attention.

Possibly the greatest discovery in the history
of science and its lost via a simple oversight.

 

[TLK Valentine]

What oversight would that be?

The mathematical probabilities that you claim are being ignored by so many... surely you remember you own objections and complaints, right?

 

[BPPLEE]

Here

Always a good plan.

In the event you are working with basics of science,
being intrrest / curiosity, and doubting of everything-
theory, sources, and yourself.
We havent met yet a creationist who will even consider he might
be mistaken, in any significant way.[/QUOTHere's an example Assessing the RATE Project

 

[BPPLEE]

That puts you two steps above too many "skeptics."

Here's an example Assessing the RATE Project

 

[Astrid]

Here

Um ok, here what?
I dont know why you are quoting me.

 

[BPPLEE]

Um ok, here what?
I dont know why you are quoting me.

It was an error.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Here's an example Assessing the RATE Project

From your link:

1. There is overwhelming evidence of more than 500 million years worth of radioactive decay.
2. Biblical interpretation and some scientific studies indicate a young earth.
3. Therefore, radioactive decay must have been accelerated by approximately a factor of one billion during the first three days of creation and during the Flood.

"Must have been accelerated," indeed.

Creation Science 101: When in doubt, snap your fingers and demand God perform a miracle for your convenience.

...especially when the facts are decidedly inconvenient. Also from your link:

There is no direct evidence provided for accelerated decay. It is inferred solely from combining the evidence for massive decay with the young-earth position. As noted above, the evidence given in this book for a young earth is not based on any reliable techniques and so the argument for accelerated decay crumbles.

But how many evolution "skeptics" read the fine print?

 

[BPPLEE]

From your link:


"Must have been accelerated," indeed.

Creation Science 101: When in doubt, snap your fingers and demand God perform a miracle for your convenience.

...especially when the facts are decidedly inconvenient. Also from your link:



But how many evolution "skeptics" read the fine print?

I was pointing out that the YEC claims are deceptive