Radical trans-activism is misogynistic at its core

[GOD Shines Forth!]

So, no. Just mocking.

When insanity becomes closer to the norm, satire and mockery are legitimate forms of protest.

That said, no, I haven't begun to mock.

 

[bekkilyn]

What does this have to do with advocating for transgenered people, extreme or not?

A lot of trans people are "sex workers" and therefore the trans-radicals get mortally offended on their behalf whenever someone speaks out against the trauma and harm done to women and girls forced into prostitution.

 

[bekkilyn]

The New Patriarchy: How Trans Radicalism Hurts Women, Children—and Trans People Themselves

Trans activism is also unusual in that it gives men a chance to claim they are oppressed compared with women, and plenty of opportunity to tell women to shut up, says Ms. Gerlich. “It’s a postmodern patriarchal backlash.”

 

[Hans Blaster]

When insanity becomes closer to the norm, satire and mockery are legitimate forms of protest.

That said, no, I haven't begun to mock.

It's good to understand your character. Thanks.

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

It's good to understand your character. Thanks.

Yours as well.

 

[comana]

Except I never said anything of the sort. My assertion is that trans *men* just like men in general wouldn't even seek to go to a gynecologist specializing in female-only issues because they would have no need of it, since trans-men and actual men are exactly the same in every way.

In fact, it seems the only actual men seeking to go to gynecologists specializing in female-only issues are biological males identifying as women and when *they* are turned away, they cry "transphobic".

Who has said trans men and men are exactly the same in every way? There have been pregnant trans men who obviously had care from an OB/Gyn. Trans men still have need of a gynecologist unless they have had complete bottom surgery so they obviously will still seek from the medical experts trained in Gynecology.

Now you have introduced an argument that trans women are seeking Gynecological services? I’m sure you have something to support this?

 

[bekkilyn]

Who has said trans men and men are exactly the same in every way? There have been pregnant trans men who obviously had care from an OB/Gyn. Trans men still have need of a gynecologist unless they have had complete bottom surgery so they obviously will still seek from the medical experts trained in Gynecology.

Now you have introduced an argument that trans women are seeking Gynecological services? I’m sure you have something to support this?

I like sea lions too!

 

[comana]

I like sea lions too!

Your distraction is cute but irrelevant. I assume that means your arguments are full of hot air rather than substance.

 

[bekkilyn]

Your distraction is cute but irrelevant. I assume that means your arguments are full of hot air rather than substance.

Coming from the one who made the assertion that men can be pregnant.

 

[comana]

Coming from the one who made the assertion that men can be pregnant.

You can look back and see I said trans men. And yes they can and have been pregnant. Your inability to accept that does not change anything.

 

[bekkilyn]

You can look back and see I said trans men. And yes they can and have been pregnant. Your inability to accept that does not change anything.

So you do agree then that trans "men" are actually women (adult human females)?

 

[bekkilyn]

It's amazing to me that people can get to be adults and still haven't figured out how to tell a male from a female. No wonder so many children getting their first hamster ended up with dozens of babies when "he" ended up being a "she".

 

[comana]

So you do agree then that trans "men" are actually women (adult human females)?

They choose to identify and live as men. I honestly don’t care about their chromosomes, genitalia, or reproductive organs. If they wish me to address their gender as male I will respect that.

 

[comana]

It's amazing to me that people can get to be adults and still haven't figured out how to tell a male from a female. No wonder so many children getting their first hamster ended up with dozens of babies when "he" ended up being a "she".

Perhaps it is you that has the misunderstanding. You don’t have to accept gender identity but I do hope you would at least respect how they wish to be labeled.

 

[bekkilyn]

They choose to identify and live as men. I honestly don’t care about their chromosomes, genitalia, or reproductive organs. If they wish me to address their gender as male I will respect that.

Sure, but trans men typically aren't the ones causing all of the problems aren't aren't really the point of this discussion concerning trans radicalism. After all, you don't see them clamoring to get into men's safe spaces or men's prisons or compete in men's sports or the like, and then threatening men's with rape and/or death as well as their livelihoods when someone disagrees with them. For as much as they claim to be men, they don't truly exhibit male behavior. And considering that many if not most are trans in order to escape the misogyny of being female, they don't even have the same motives as biological males who identify as women.

 

[comana]

Sure, but trans men typically aren't the ones causing all of the problems aren't aren't really the point of this discussion concerning trans radicalism. After all, you don't see them clamoring to get into men's safe spaces or men's prisons or compete in men's sports or the like, and then threatening men's with rape and/or death as well as their livelihoods when someone disagrees with them. For as much as they claim to be men, they don't truly exhibit male behavior. And considering that many if not most are trans in order to escape the misogyny of being female, they don't even have the same motives as biological males who identify as women.

Trans women are at serious risk of violence against them. I don’t see them clamoring for anything but to be accepted as they are and to feel safe.

Trans men transitioning to escape misogyny needs supporting evidence. That smacks of an argument to justify why they make the transition without actually talking to trans men themselves.

 

[Jay Sea]

Radical trans-activism promotes rigid, harmful (oftentimes sexual) stereotypes that define men and women.

A "trans woman" (who is in actuality a biological male) is defined as "woman" while a A "CIS" woman is a woman that conforms to the stereotypes designed for her. (Actual women who do not conform are either forced to become "non-binary" or are simply erased.)

Radical trans-activism allows and encourages biological males to define what a woman is and if actual women disagree, women are "cancelled", subjected to vulgarities from trans-"woman" to perform various actions on their intact sexual organs, or even receive death threats.

Women who don't support the delusion that women are simply a "feeling" that can be experienced by anyone are labeled as "TERFs" or "trans-phobic" or worse.

Radical transactivists are responsible for women losing sex-based rights, such as medical care specializing in female issues, or having the freedom to undress in their own locker rooms away from the male gaze, or even being able to participate in female-only sports. Now sports are becoming a male-only activity in which actual women are sometimes allowed to participate.

Actual women harmed by human trafficking and other forms of sex slavery are ignored as we are now to embrace the ideology that prostitution is "empowering".

Trans-radical males in drag make claims that they are more of a woman than actual women.

Trans-radicals claiming that they feel like women cannot seem to explain this feeling outside of (typically heterosexual) male fantasy versions of women that exist only in their own minds or media designed to cater to male sexual fantasy.

Many trans-"men" are trans out of a desire to escape the misogyny and often de-transition once they are past adolescence or young adulthood, and realize they had been lied to about having to be trans if they did not conform to the "feminine" or "CIS" ideal promoted by the radical trans movement and misogynists in general. Oftentimes they regret having messed themselves up with hormones and it takes a very long time, if ever, to regain what they lost.

Actual women are harassed and brutalized by males self-identifying as women in places that used to be women-only safe spaces but now must include fully-intact men lest such safe-spaces be sued for discrimination.

Actual women must accept not only derogatory labels such as "CIS" but are now relegated to being "menstruators" or "chest feeders".

Actual women must pretend that the emperor is wearing the best of clothes because they say that the emperor has no clothes, they will be stoned to death rather than the crowd seeing through the delusion as in the actual story.

Trans-radicalism is a misogynistic mens movement in the guise of feminism.

Actual feminism in which women and men are to be equal has been co-opted by "liberal feminism" which is all about trans rights.

Men who "feel like women" still largely exhibit the behavior that is typically exhibited by men regardless of how they are dressed or the amount of cosmetics they are wearing.

A trans woman is no longer to be defined as a biological male who identifies as a woman, but rather all are forced to pretend that a trans woman *is* a woman.

A "non-binary" is the 21st century term for the "not like other girls" of the 20th century. It's an attempt to escape the misogyny, but has no better degree of success. She's still not going to truly be accepted as "one of the boys".

I have to wonder how many of these males would "feel like women" if they were currently living in Afghanistan where they really could feel what it is actually like to be a woman in this world. It must be nice to be able to take off the "woman" costume whenever they feel like it or when being a woman is truly inconvenient or life-threatening. Actual women don't have that privilege.

Part of the solution is to have all toilet factifies as single cubicles complete with basins and mirrors. then everyone is free to use them. Or we have CIS Men and CIS Women and Men Others. Women Others and Others
In LOve
Jay Sea

 

[comana]

Part of the solution is to have all toilet factifies as single cubicles complete with basins and mirrors. then everyone is free to use them. Or we have CIS Men and CIS Women and Men Others. Women Others and Others
In LOve
Jay Sea

I encountered that arrangement in Stockholm and it is brilliant. I haven’t encountered it since but, it’s a huge improvement to standard restroom facilities.

 

[bekkilyn]

Trans women are at serious risk of violence against them. I don’t see them clamoring for anything but to be accepted as they are and to feel safe.

Sure, but the problem is that they feel entitled to that safety at the expense of women's safety. Rather than creating their own safe spaces, they have decided they are entitled to take it from others. It's male entitlement at it's finest and yet they claim to be women.

Trans rights are not the same as women's rights. And for the record, women experience much more risk of violence for a much longer time (thousands of years in fact in every part of the world), not because of an obscure "feeling" that we can put on or take off whenever we need to, but because of our *sex*. And that goes for trans "men" too. Do you think the Taliban plans to check which "gender" a woman identifies as before she gets forcefully married off and raped now in Afghanistan? Nope, somehow they are able to determine who the females are just like most people who haven't fallen for the gender delusion.

Trans men transitioning to escape misogyny needs supporting evidence. That smacks of an argument to justify why they make the transition without actually talking to trans men themselves.

Plenty of evidence out there as well as statements and stories from de-transitioned or de-transitioning trans men to find. Not even remotely hard to find, though you'll find that many of them have also experienced threats from the trans radicals for having the audacity to talk about their experiences in public.

It used to be that girls could enjoy playing with trucks and plastic army men and still be girls. Now they have to be trans or "non binary" (like that somehow doesn't define every human being) and aren't allowed to be girls because girls only like to play with dolls and be princesses. It's crap.

 

[bekkilyn]

Part of the solution is to have all toilet factifies as single cubicles complete with basins and mirrors. then everyone is free to use them. Or we have CIS Men and CIS Women and Men Others. Women Others and Others
In LOve
Jay Sea

I think the bathrooms are the very least of the problems. Before all this nonsense, actual transsexual people would just use whatever bathroom they wanted to use and no one would be the wiser, but trans radicalism has ruined everything for them too.