Maricopa County Leaders call on AZ Senate to stop sham investigation of 2020 election

[KCfromNC]

It's FAKE NEWS. No Republican observer lied, although the Washington Post certainly did their best to make an un-discerning reader come to that conclusion. As the legitimate article referenced in my previous post said, "The dispute is about how close observers can be to the workers counting ballots."

Really? All of this nonsense about stolen elections is because observers couldn't get arbitrarily close to people volunteering to count ballots during a global pandemic? Seems kinda weak to me.

 

[Valletta]

Really? All of this nonsense about stolen elections is because observers couldn't get arbitrarily close to people volunteering to count ballots during a global pandemic? Seems kinda weak to me.

Just challenging his story about a Republican observer supposedly retracting a statement that the observer was not allowed to observe. That's the fake news in this case. But I will tell you that a lot of people don't consider voting integrity as nonsense.

 

[NxNW]

No Republican observer lied,

Republicans who were not observers did.

"The dispute is about how close observers can be to the workers counting ballots."

So you now concede the fact that Republican observers were neither removed or banned from entering.

 

[Whyayeman]

About American law: it is true that I struggle to differentiate between a judge 'throwing out' a case [Washington Post] and a judge dismissing a case.

The Washington post is a bit more dramatic but the result appears to be the same. Either way, this happened. There is nothing fake (or even FAKE!) about it.

 

[essentialsaltes]

OAN correspondent who is covering the Arizona election audit has been aiding the effort since at least December, documents show

• OAN's Christina Bobb has been covering the Arizona election audit and fundraising for the effort.
  
  
• Bobb aided Arizona Senate Republicans with the effort as early as December, new documents showed.
  
  Audit-related documents requested and published by The Center for Public Integrity and We Are Oversight showed that Christina Bobb, the host of "Weekly Briefing" on OAN, was supplying Arizona Senate President Karen Fann with witness declarations, statements, and expert testimony in early December
  
  [Bonus Giuliani!]
  
  
  
  
  
  In an impromptu CNN interview last week, Fann cited OAN's live coverage of the audit as proof that the entire process has been transparent.
  
  Though OAN's partisanship has been well documented, Bobb's ongoing promotion of claims about the 2020 election results, in tandem with her overt support of the partisan Arizona audit as she covers the effort for a news network, is new ground when it comes to journalistic ethics.
  

 

[durangodawood]

OAN correspondent who is covering the Arizona election audit has been aiding the effort since at least December, documents show

• OAN's Christina Bobb has been covering the Arizona election audit and fundraising for the effort.
  
  
• Bobb aided Arizona Senate Republicans with the effort as early as December, new documents showed.
  
  Audit-related documents requested and published by The Center for Public Integrity and We Are Oversight showed that Christina Bobb, the host of "Weekly Briefing" on OAN, was supplying Arizona Senate President Karen Fann with witness declarations, statements, and expert testimony in early December
  
  [Bonus Giuliani!]
  
  
  
  
  
  In an impromptu CNN interview last week, Fann cited OAN's live coverage of the audit as proof that the entire process has been transparent.
  
  Though OAN's partisanship has been well documented, Bobb's ongoing promotion of claims about the 2020 election results, in tandem with her overt support of the partisan Arizona audit as she covers the effort for a news network, is new ground when it comes to journalistic ethics.

No one ever considered OAN to be journalism tho. It plain propaganada, and even the viewers know it. Its like being shocked! to find WWF is scripted.

 

[wing2000]

In an impromptu CNN interview last week, Fann cited OAN's live coverage of the audit as proof that the entire process has been transparent.

 

[KCfromNC]

Just challenging his story about a Republican observer supposedly retracting a statement that the observer was not allowed to observe. That's the fake news in this case. But I will tell you that a lot of people don't consider voting integrity as nonsense.

Regardless of what they consider it, I hope there's more to it that unverified complaints about public health precautions in the middle of a pandemic.

 

[KCfromNC]

OAN correspondent who is covering the Arizona election audit has been aiding the effort since at least December, documents show

• OAN's Christina Bobb has been covering the Arizona election audit and fundraising for the effort.
  
  
• Bobb aided Arizona Senate Republicans with the effort as early as December, new documents showed.
  
  Audit-related documents requested and published by The Center for Public Integrity and We Are Oversight showed that Christina Bobb, the host of "Weekly Briefing" on OAN, was supplying Arizona Senate President Karen Fann with witness declarations, statements, and expert testimony in early December
  
  [Bonus Giuliani!]
  
  
  
  
  
  In an impromptu CNN interview last week, Fann cited OAN's live coverage of the audit as proof that the entire process has been transparent.
  
  Though OAN's partisanship has been well documented, Bobb's ongoing promotion of claims about the 2020 election results, in tandem with her overt support of the partisan Arizona audit as she covers the effort for a news network, is new ground when it comes to journalistic ethics.

What's it called again when biased media outlets create the news rather than just report on it? I swear I've heard the term recently but can't quite put my finger on it.

 

[Valletta]

Regardless of what they consider it, I hope there's more to it that unverified complaints about public health precautions in the middle of a pandemic.

Had you looked at the sworn depositions yourself you would know of the racial slurs and overall harassment of GOP observers--someone even spotted a booklet with a title as to how to keep GOP observers from observing. I never would have believed it could happen in my country and people would sit by and do nothing.

 

[Whyayeman]

someone even spotted a booklet with a title as to how to keep GOP observers from observing.

I looked at a great many of the affidavits and none of them made the claims you suggest. It is not too late to read them yourself. They are out there somewhere.

As for a booklet with such a title - that is just poppycock. Debate about the count has been going on ever since November and this has just come up? I am afraid I shall need more than just your bald assertion.

I am sick of repeating it: there has never been a shred of actual evidence of systematic fraud during the presidential election. (Or any other American election come to that.) If anybody can provide actual evidence it is a matter for the FBI to investigate.

Oddly, despite Republican representatives at state and national level continually claiming to know that there was systematic fraud no evidence has been offered to the FBI - or the public. If there was evidence responsible public officials of all parties would be bound to hand it over.

 

[Valletta]

I looked at a great many of the affidavits and none of them made the claims you suggest. It is not too late to read them yourself. They are out there somewhere.

As for a booklet with such a title - that is just poppycock. Debate about the count has been going on ever since November and this has just come up? I am afraid I shall need more than just your bald assertion.

I am sick of repeating it: there has never been a shred of actual evidence of systematic fraud during the presidential election. (Or any other American election come to that.) If anybody can provide actual evidence it is a matter for the FBI to investigate.

Oddly, despite Republican representatives at state and national level continually claiming to know that there was systematic fraud no evidence has been offered to the FBI - or the public. If there was evidence responsible public officials of all parties would be bound to hand it over.

It's not my fault you did not read the depositions I mentioned. I will weigh your "poppycock" claim, a claim made by an unknown non-American, against a sworn affidavit filed many months ago.
There was substantial wrongdoing in the election, we will find out after a full forensic audit in Arizona and hopefully other swing states to come. With the major media killing the story, just like the man-made signature sequence on the Chinese virus, it often takes time to get to the truth.

 

[Valletta]

I looked at a great many of the affidavits and none of them made the claims you suggest. It is not too late to read them yourself. They are out there somewhere.

As for a booklet with such a title - that is just poppycock. Debate about the count has been going on ever since November and this has just come up? I am afraid I shall need more than just your bald assertion.

I am sick of repeating it: there has never been a shred of actual evidence of systematic fraud during the presidential election. (Or any other American election come to that.) If anybody can provide actual evidence it is a matter for the FBI to investigate.

Oddly, despite Republican representatives at state and national level continually claiming to know that there was systematic fraud no evidence has been offered to the FBI - or the public. If there was evidence responsible public officials of all parties would be bound to hand it over.

Sworn affidavits are considered evidence in the United States, perhaps not in your country, but by definition in our country sworn affidavits are evidence, and usually admissible evidence in a court of law. While the mainstream media did an awful job, smaller news outlets were not afraid to mention such evidence, as per the following link: Multiple Michigan residents swear they witnessed widespread voter fraud in Detroit

 

[Whyayeman]

It's not my fault you did not read the depositions I mentioned.

If you have read such affidavits you should cite them. I don't believe they exist. If there is actual evidence the people to tell are the FBI. These are allegations of federal offences. So far I do not believe that the FBI have received such allegations.

This is because these events did not happen. 'Just the News' is anything but the news. You may swallow such drivel but I don't.

The sworn affidavits did not allege counting irregularities. They were complaints about social distancing and mask wearing during the pandemic. The courts threw them out and there lies the reason for them being discounted by the national and international media.

You have had your Unsinkable Rubber duck for persisting without producing evidence. You are not entitled to another - not this month any way.

 

[Valletta]

If you have read such affidavits you should cite them. I don't believe they exist. If there is actual evidence the people to tell are the FBI. These are allegations of federal offences. So far I do not believe that the FBI have received such allegations.

This is because these events did not happen. 'Just the News' is anything but the news. You may swallow such drivel but I don't.

The sworn affidavits did not allege counting irregularities. They were complaints about social distancing and mask wearing during the pandemic. The courts threw them out and there lies the reason for them being discounted by the national and international media.

You have had your Unsinkable Rubber duck for persisting without producing evidence. You are not entitled to another - not this month any way.

Are you willing to swear such events did not happen under penalties of perjury? There are more than complaints about distancing and mask wearing in the affidavits. Tell you what, I'll dig up and post an example for you. Perhaps you rely too much on the major media instead of source researching. Why just today the major media story about Trump having the protesters attacked because he supposedly wanted a photo-op in front of a historic church was debunked by investigation results.

 

[Whyayeman]

I'll dig up and post an example for you.

Well that will be nice. I would welcome any evidence to settle the matter. I hope your sources are verifiable and not not the sort of thing that has been posted already - right wing bloggers sounding off with worthless allegations.

But if you have actual evidence you should be telling the police. And the same goes for your source.

 

[Valletta]

Well that will be nice. I would welcome any evidence to settle the matter. I hope your sources are verifiable and not not the sort of thing that has been posted already - right wing bloggers sounding off with worthless allegations.

But if you have actual evidence you should be telling the police. And the same goes for your source.

As I said, sworn affidavits are by themselves evidence, and usually admissible evidence in a court of law. There were all many elections laws that were broken. For instance, in Michigan Kathleen Daavettila, in her affidavit, said the Democrats were distributing a packet titled "Tactics to Distract GOP Challengers."

Also I suggest to everyone to read and listen to multiple sources, not just those on the hard left. Here's an article which mentions some of the Michigan statements: Multiple Michigan residents swear they witnessed widespread voter fraud in Detroit

 

[Tanj]

As I said, sworn affidavits are by themselves evidence, and usually admissible evidence in a court of law. There were all many elections laws that were broken. For instance, in Michigan Kathleen Daavettila, in her affidavit, said the Democrats were distributing a packet titled "Tactics to Distract GOP Challengers."

Also I suggest to everyone to read and listen to multiple sources, not just those on the hard left. Here's an article which mentions some of the Michigan statements: Multiple Michigan residents swear they witnessed widespread voter fraud in Detroit

And here's the actual court report that shows said affadavits were considered in a court of law.
https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-...canned-from-a-Xerox-Multifunction-Printer.pdf

Rather than listening to partisan sources, go to the original

 

[Valletta]

And here's the actual court report that shows said affadavits were considered in a court of law.
https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-...canned-from-a-Xerox-Multifunction-Printer.pdf

Rather than listening to partisan sources, go to the original

Indeed, now he knows the evidence exists. There has been a setback in Georgia. Although a judge ordered ballots secured, deputies left their post before being relieved of duty. I understand the alarm went off and the doors were wide open. I have found the following on the subject:
The strange case of the “suspicious” Georgia mail-in ballots under court-ordered review, and a break-in at the warehouse storing them | Sharyl Attkisson

 

[Tanj]

So I note the Arizona audit is due to finish this week. Wonder how long until the report comes out.