JESUS and the APOSTLES OBEYED GOD'S LAW and the SABBATH!

[HIM]

Happy Sabbath Him! I hope you have a very blessed Sabbath!

Thank you! He has, is, and will for He is faithful!
He woke me at 2:30 and blessed and is blessing me in His Word. As the day was dawning His Creation was filling the air with the beauty of the chorus of the birds awakening to the dawn of the new day. And now the warmth of the sun penetrates my very being as I continue in my devotion to, in and of Him and His Word. God is good and the life in and of Him is a blessing in and of itself.

Prayers lifted up for you my friend.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

HAPPY SABBATH! To all those who love God and keep His commandments

Happy Sabbath LGW! I know you’re in the future and hope you are having a wonderful Sabbath. Our God is so good!

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Happy Sabbath LGW! I know you’re in the future and hope you are having a wonderful Sabbath. Our God is so good!

Thanks sis late my time though bout to . Had a wonderful Sabbath, we went into nature by the beach today was so beautiful! 99 for now and hope your Sabbath is a great one and you too @HIM

God bless

 

[HIM]

HAPPY SABBATH! To all those who love God and keep His commandments

Thank you my brother. May we all continue to protect, guard and do that which He has made part of us, His Word, His Commandments in our hearts and in our minds through His Son Jesus Christ. For man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that precedes and proceeds out of the mouth of God.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Thank you! He has, is, and will for He is faithful!
He woke me at 2:30 and blessed and is blessing me in His Word. As the day was dawning His Creation was filling the air with the beauty of the chorus of the birds awakening to the dawn of the new day. And now the warmth of the sun penetrates my very being as I continue in my devotion to, in and of Him and His Word. God is good and the life in and of Him is a blessing in and of itself.

Prayers lifted up for you my friend.

Sabbath is my favorite day of the week. Regardless of what is going on during the week, nothing fills my heart with so much joy than having a full day of communion with our Savior on His special holy Sabbath. I am grateful to Him everyday and I am blessed far more than what I deserve. Sabbath is such a wonderful experience and I am looking forward to the day we can worship with Jesus each and every Sabbath.

Isaiah 66:22 “As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,” declares the Lord, “so will your name and descendants endure. 23 From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me,” says the Lord

 

[RBPerry]

However one views the sabbath is up to the individual. Reality is very few Christian keep a day completely set aside to worship the Lord, and that is a shame. I have total respect for my Adventist brothers and sisters and their commitments even though I disagree with many of their beliefs.
What many don't understand is we have freedom in Christ, we are not obligated to keep Jewish tradition.

 

[Bob S]

Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man= all = you and me. Mark 2:27 so your argument is with Jesus, not me.

If it was made for all man then why did God stop with only one nation? That verse does not say for us to keep it now does it?

Is it a sin to murder or is that okay for everyone except Jews? What about taking God's name in vain- are you free to do that as well?

Not if I obey Jesus and love Him and my fellow man.

I would consider praying about who is spreading the falsehood here, there is some strong warnings in the Bible about those who teach others to break any of God's commandments.

Just what do you mean by "any"? Was it not God's command that Israel was to observe all the feast days and new moons? Were not women banished from society during their monthly? Didn't men have to refrain from cutting their sideburns? Why do you only uphold the ten commands when we know that there are many other ways to hurt our fellow man? Why do you disregard the fact that God was speaking to only the Israelites? Why do you include "US" in your equation? Isn't that adding to God's word?

Just a few of the many ways we dishonor God and our fellow man.
- Pride
- Greed
- Envy
- Wrath, Fits of Rage
- Lust
- Gluttony
- Sloth
- Dishonesty, Deception
- Impurity, Debauchery
- Witchcraft, Sorcery
- Hatred, Indifference
- Jealousy
- Showing Favoritism, Prejudice and Discrimination
- Selfish Ambition, Self-Centeredness
- Withholding Remedy to Human or Animal Needs
- Drunkenness, Drug Abuse
- Fornication, Sodomy, Bestiality
- Discord, Dissensions, Factions
- Unbelief, Disbelief, Agnosticism, Atheism
- Etc.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

If it was made for all man then why did God stop with only one nation? That verse does not say for us to keep it now does it?


Not if I obey Jesus and love Him and my fellow man.

Just what do you mean by "any"? Was it not God's command that Israel was to observe all the feast days and new moons? Were not women banished from society during their monthly? Didn't men have to refrain from cutting their sideburns? Why do you only uphold the ten commands when we know that there are many other ways to hurt our fellow man? Why do you disregard the fact that God was speaking to only the Israelites? Why do you include "US" in your equation? Isn't that adding to God's word?

Just a few of the many ways we dishonor God and our fellow man.
- Pride
- Greed
- Envy
- Wrath, Fits of Rage
- Lust
- Gluttony
- Sloth
- Dishonesty, Deception
- Impurity, Debauchery
- Witchcraft, Sorcery
- Hatred, Indifference
- Jealousy
- Showing Favoritism, Prejudice and Discrimination
- Selfish Ambition, Self-Centeredness
- Withholding Remedy to Human or Animal Needs
- Drunkenness, Drug Abuse
- Fornication, Sodomy, Bestiality
- Discord, Dissensions, Factions
- Unbelief, Disbelief, Agnosticism, Atheism
- Etc.

You left off one very important way of dishonoring our Creator and Savior according to God's Word:

Isaiah 56:1 Keep justice, and do righteousness,
For My salvation is about to come, (end-time prophecy)
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”

3 Do not let the son of the foreigner
Who has joined himself to the Lord
Speak, saying,
“The Lord has utterly separated me from His people”;
Nor let the eunuch say,
“Here I am, a dry tree.”
4 For thus says the Lord:
“To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths,
And choose what pleases Me,
And hold fast My covenant,
5 Even to them I will give in My house
And within My walls a place and a name
Better than that of sons and daughters;
I will give them an everlasting name
That shall not be cut off.
6. “Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”

Something to consider praying about

God bless

 

[Bob S]

However one views the sabbath is up to the individual. Reality is very few Christian keep a day completely set aside to worship the Lord, and that is a shame. I have total respect for my Adventist brothers and sisters and their commitments even though I disagree with many of their beliefs.
What many don't understand is we have freedom in Christ, we are not obligated to keep Jewish tradition.

Hi RB, While I agree with a lot of your post I do have to remind readers that the Sabbath was not given to Israel as a day of worship, it was given as a day of rest. Israelites should have worshiped God every day. The way SDAs observe the Israelite Sabbath is anything but rest. I know because I was one for forty years. As head deacon and deacon for most of those years believe me that was work. Getting my family ready to attend Sabbath School was work. Teaching Sabath School was work. Ask any SDA pastor what is their busiest day of the week.

You have respect for those who observe a day, but they certainly do not have respect for those who don't think and observe as they do. To get right down to the nitty gritty they believe we are going to Hell because we don't believe as they are supposed to believe.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

However one views the sabbath is up to the individual. Reality is very few Christian keep a day completely set aside to worship the Lord, and that is a shame. I have total respect for my Adventist brothers and sisters and their commitments even though I disagree with many of their beliefs.
What many don't understand is we have freedom in Christ, we are not obligated to keep Jewish tradition.

Hi there,

God never said to keep holy any day you choose, He was very specific. Exodus 20:8-11 which is why God is consistent and those saved will be worshipping Him on His chosen seventh day Sabbath Isaiah 66:23. Is your birthday more special celebrated on the day you were born or a day that is more convenient for your loved ones? This pales in comparison when we do not keep the day God commanded us to REMEMBER and keep Holy the seventh day, His Sabbath.

At any rate, today is a glorious day and happy Sabbath. God bless.

 

[Bob S]

Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
Isa 58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth,

SDAs tell us we must "keep" the Sabbath. Can anyone of them please tell us that they do not speak their own words on the day that they are not to find their own pleasure?

Is that something like do as "I say not as I do"?

 

[RBPerry]

Hi RB, While I agree with a lot of your post I do have to remind readers that the Sabbath was not given to Israel as a day of worship, it was given as a day of rest. Israelites should have worshiped God every day. The way SDAs observe the Israelite Sabbath is anything but rest. I know because I was one for forty years. As head deacon and deacon for most of those years believe me that was work. Getting my family ready to attend Sabbath School was work. Teaching Sabath School was work. Ask any SDA pastor what is their busiest day of the week.

You have respect for those who observe a day, but they certainly do not have respect for those who don't think and observe as they do. To get right down to the nitty gritty they believe we are going to Hell because we don't believe as they are supposed to believe.

Bob, I had sixteen years of Adventist schools, my freshman year at Loma Linda I was an devout Adventist as was most of my family. By my senior year I was almost an agnostic. I agree with you regarding a day of rest, that is the purpose. I'm not responsible for how others feel about me, I'm only responsible for how I feel and treat others. I have been rejected by many of my family because I left the Adventist club. I had to finish my education at another college because I asked too many of the wrong questions at Loma Linda, besides got sick and tired of veggie burgers. I'm now non denominational and that works for me. What most Adventist do not understand is holiness comes from within, not from following rules.
As for pastors, there busiest day is always the day their church meets, they take their rest on other days. Question, what pulled you away from Adventism?

 

[HIM]

...
What many don't understand is we have freedom in Christ, we are not obligated to keep Jewish tradition.

The Sabbath is not Jewish tradition. Going to synagogue on the Sabbath is tradition. But the sabbath is not. It is of the commandments that God has placed in our hearts and minds. If we do not observe it we separate ourselves from Him and the work that he has done in us. We sin, miss the mark in and of the life which is in Christ Jesus

 

[LightLoveHope]

WHAT DID JESUS AND THE APOSTLES TEACH ABOUT GOD’S LAW
(the scriptures below are no where near exhaustive)

Jesus taught the 10 commandments…..

1. Jesus kept God’s Law (10 commandments) and said the Law and the prophets would not pass away (Matt 5:17-18)
2. Jesus taught others to follow the 10 commandments (Mark 10:17-21)
3. Jesus taught that Love is the fulfilling (doing) of God’s Law (10 commandments Matt 22:36-40)
4. If we break God’s Law by following man-made traditions we are not following God (Matt 15:3-9)
5. Jesus says if we commit sin we are a servant of sin and he has come to free us from sin (John 8:32-36)
6. Jesus taught if you love God you will keep God’s Law and abide in His Love (John 14:15; 15:10
7. If anyone is breaking any of God’s commandments and teaching others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven <least = lost> (Matt 5:19)
8. No one can obey God’s Law producing the fruit of obedience of ourselves and unless we abide in Jesus we can do nothing (John 15:4-10)

Paul affirms the Ten Commandments……

1. Paul teaches God's people keep the Sabbath Hebrews 4.
2. Paul tells gentiles that "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Cor 7:19
3. Paul tells gentiles "it is not the HEARERS of the Law that are just before God but the DOERS of the Law will be justified... on the day when according to my GOSPEL God will judge all mankind" Rom 2:13-16
4. Paul asks that gentiles consider the doctrine of LAW "Do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Rom 3:31
5. Paul tells ALL Christians that it is only the lost who will "not subject themselves to the Law of God neither indeed CAN they" Rom 8:6-8
6 Paul reaches all Christians under the NEW Covenant that God's LAW as known in Jer 31:31-33 is "written on the heart and mind" Heb 8:7-11
7. Paul tells all Christians that the OT text is to be used for Doctrine 2Tim 3:16
AND He never claims that "if I did not write it -- it is not scripture for us today" -- as one or two have imagined for us.
8. Paul tells all Christians that the 5th commandment is the "FIRST commandment with a promise" Eph 6:1-2 and is binding on all Christians.
9. God's Law (10 commandments) are holy, just and good (Rom 7:12)
10. God's Law gives us a knowledge of what sin is (Rom 3:20; 7:7)
11. The penalty of breaking God's Law without Jesus is death (Rom 6:23)
12. If we break God's Law we dishonor God (Rom 2:23)
13. If we sin we are "under the Law" and guilty before God (Rom 3:19)
14. We are saved by faith but our faith establishes the Law in us (Rom 3:31)
15. If we are saved by grace we should not break God's Law (Rom 6:1-7)
16. We should not break God's Law if we are under grace (Rom 6:15)
17. We are to serve the Law of God through the mind because that is where sin starts (Rom 6:17; 7:25; 8:4; 12:2)
18. It is God's Law that brings us to Jesus (Gal 3:24)
19. God's salvation frees us from sin so we can be obedient to God's Law and live a life of holiness (Rom 6:22)
20. We will be judged by God's Law and only those that are obedient will be justified because of their faith (Rom 2:4-13)
21. God's Law can only be obeyed through love and a changed heart which comes by faith in God's Word (Rom 2:21-29; 13:9-10; Heb 8:9-10)
22. If we break God's Law and are in unrepentant sin we will be lost and will received God's judgements (Heb 10:26-27)

John affirms the 10 commandments……

1. John says it is only by keeping God’s 10 commandments that we know that we know God (1 John 2:3)
2. If someone says that they know God and do not keep God’s 10 commandments they are lying and not telling the truth (1 John 2:4)
3. We should purify ourselves as Jesus is pure (1 John 3:3)
4. Sin is the breaking of God’s 10 commandments (1 John 3:4)
5. Whoever is abiding in Christ does not commit sin (1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10)
6. If you are in unrepentant sin you have not seen Jesus or know him (1 John 3:6)
7. John warns us that only those that are obedience to God’s Law are his true followers (1 John 3:7)
8. If someone is committing unrepentant sin they are following the devil and not God (1 John 3:7)
9. If you are born of God and abiding in him you will not commit sin (1 John 3:9; 1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10
10. It is the keeping of God’s commandments that is the difference between those that are following God and those that are not following God (1 John 3:10; 1 John 5:3)
11. It is only by Love through faith that we can keep God’s commandments (1 John 5:3-4)
12. God’s true believers in the end days will keep all of God’s commandments through faith in Jesus (Rev 14:12; 22:14)

James also affirms the 10 commandments…….

1. James says God’s Law (10 commandments) are a Royal Law (James 2:8)
2. If we break one of God’s commandments we a guilty before God as sinners breaking all of God’s Law and gave some examples of breaking God’s Law (James 2:9-11)
3. James says God’s Law is a law of liberty and freedom (James 2:12)
4. The 10 commandments (God’s Law) are the standard in the judgment (James 2:12)
5. If our faith does not have the fruit of obedience to God’s Law it is dead and not true faith (James 2:16-26)

Peter affirms the 10 commandments……..

1. Sanctification is to obedience to God’s Law (1 Pet 1:2)
2. We can only be changed from sin to obedience to God’s Law by the power of God and it will be revealed in the last days (1 Pet 1:5)
3. We should give up our sins to be holy because Jesus is holy (1 Pet 1:13-16)
4. Jesus is your example who did no sin (1 Pet 2:21-22)
5. Cease from sin and do not live in the flesh (1 Pet 4:1-3)
6. Judgement will begin at the house of God and sinners (those breaking God’s 10 commandments) will not be saved.
7. God has given us his precious promises and as we believe them God will grant us his divine power to live a life of Godliness (obedience to God’s Law; 2 Pet 1:2-4)
8. The Un-Godly (disobedient to God’s Law) will be like Sodom and Gomorrah (2 Pet 2:6)
9. If any turn away from God’s Law and are in unrepentant sin breaking any of God’10 commandments they will be lost (2 Pet 2:20-22)
10 God is not willing that any should perish but that everyone should come to repentance and turn away from sin to follow God’s 10 commandments because those that do not will receive the judgements of God (2 Pet 3:5-14)

What did Jesus and the Apostles teach about the Sabbath in the New Testament?

1. It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56)
2. Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27)
3. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28)
4. If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest (Hebrews 4)
5. It is one of God’s 10 commandments we break it we are guilty or breaking all (James 2:8-12)
6. Breaking it is sin (1 John 3:4)
7. God’s true followers keep it Holy as God commanded (Rev 14:12; Rev 22:14; Eze 20:20)
8. Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matt 16:24; 1 Cor 11:1; Eph 5:1-21; Pet 2:20-22)
9. The Apostle kept the Sabbath (Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Rev 1:10)

God’s Law in the NC is written on our hearts it is through love and it is love the fulfils God’s Law in us as we walk not after the flesh but after the spirit and is why Jesus says f you love me keep my commandments. (John 14:15; John 15:10). If we knowingly break one of God’s commandments we commit sin (1 John 3:4). This includes the 7th Day Sabbath which Jesus made for us and commands us to keep as a holy day.

In Christ Always!

Clearly the apostles did not regard the Sabbath as a weekly celebration, rather we were free to do what we desired to do. They instituted a day of celebration and family, sunday, where we focused on Jesus and fellowship over work and need. Paul went so far as to say we were free from the Sabbath after entering into Jesus and the sabbath rest of redemption and salvation.

For us the 4th commandment if fulfilled in walk with Jesus.
If as an individual anyone feels they have value in practising the sabbath on a Saturday, Amen, if not Amen.

I used to think the church actually understood its traditions etc. but after meeting many believers, clearly not.

God bless you

 

[RBPerry]

The Sabbath is not Jewish tradition. Going to synagogue on the Sabbath is tradition. But the sabbath is not. It is of the commandments that God has placed in our hearts and minds. If we do not observe it we separate ourselves from Him and the work that he has done in us. We sin, miss the mark in and of the life which is in Christ Jesus

Your very comment here supports what Bob has said regarding Adventist beliefs and attitudes towards other Christians. You choose to worship on Saturday, that is fine, just don't lay that on other Christians as a commandment.
God didn't look down after fifteen hundred years and say, "Oh, they are keeping the wrong day, we better get Mrs. White to set them straight". I have heard all the snide little remarks about "other people", many Adventist will not even acknowledge the fact that others are Christians as well.
If God laid on all peoples hearts that we could only keep Saturday as the day of rest, we all would be. But guess what, He hasn't.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Your very comment here supports what Bob has said regarding Adventist beliefs and attitudes towards other Christians. You choose to worship on Saturday, that is fine, just don't lay that on other Christians as a commandment.
God didn't look down after fifteen hundred years and say, "Oh, they are keeping the wrong day, we better get Mrs. White to set them straight". I have heard all the snide little remarks about "other people", many Adventist will not even acknowledge the fact that others are Christians as well.
If God laid on all peoples hearts that we could only keep Saturday as the day of rest, we all would be. But guess what, He hasn't.

The scriptures have a lot of messages regarding following what is popular vs following God’s Word.

Mathew 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

Luke 13: 22 Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem. 23 Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?” He said to them, 24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.

Mathew 7: 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Revelations 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The invitation is made to everyone. Jesus wants to save everyone but when we place our will above God’s and place traditions over God’s commandments you are making a decision. Mathew 15:3-9

Mathew 22:14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.”


James 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.

God’s Ten Commandments are an external covenant Psalms 89:34, Psalms 111:7,8 and the 4th commandment God specifically asked us to REMEMBER


Ecclesiasticus 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep His commandments, For this is man’s all.

God bless

 

[HIM]

Your very comment here supports what Bob has said regarding Adventist beliefs and attitudes towards other Christians. You choose to worship on Saturday, that is fine, just don't lay that on other Christians as a commandment.
God didn't look down after fifteen hundred years and say, "Oh, they are keeping the wrong day, we better get Mrs. White to set them straight". I have heard all the snide little remarks about "other people", many Adventist will not even acknowledge the fact that others are Christians as well.
If God laid on all peoples hearts that we could only keep Saturday as the day of rest, we all would be. But guess what, He hasn't.

Yes he has. But they choose their own way. Sad really. If a spirit tells us to do something outside of what is in the word of God it’s not God spirit. Spirit leads but the word of God is our checkpoint. If we don’t keep the sabbath we are not following God’s spirit we are sinning

 

[RBPerry]

Yes he has. But they choose their own way. Sad really. If a spirit tells us to do something outside of what is in the word of God it’s not God spirit. Spirit leads but the word of God is our checkpoint. If we don’t keep the sabbath we are not following God’s spirit we are sinning

So the majority of Christians and theologians are all wrong, and they only the Adventist are right. How narrow minded it that.

 

[HIM]

So the majority of Christians and theologians are all wrong, and they only the Adventist are right. How narrow minded it that.

Yes they are and contrary to your bias not all Christians are SDA

 

[RBPerry]

The scriptures have a lot of messages regarding following what is popular vs following God’s Word.


God bless

What you don't understand it isn't a matter of what is popular, reality is Christianity isn't popular in America any longer. The Sunday worship has been well established for centuries, you wish to worship on Saturday, that is fine. You never answered the tough questions, nor will other Adventist.
The word says keep A sabbath day, it doesn't say Saturday, and the Adventist just can't get it.
You are attempting to use guilt trips in an attempt to force your viewpoints, you don't use well established Christian reasoning and interpretation.
When you decide to post scripture in the most part are not looking at the entire context of the letter or book. There is on passage in the apocrypha of Thomas that supports your viewpoint, but of course that isn't considered orthodox. Try reading the apocrypha's it just might open your eyes to what was left out of the bible. Many of the writings have Gnostic overtone to them and some theologians believe Paul leaned toward the Gnostic thinking. The Gnostics believed knowledge was how one draws closer to Jesus.
Try thinking for yourself and not just what some pastor told you.