Police are NOT hunting down black people

[Larniavc]

unlike like those who want to say something disparaging about the police every time they get a chance, the police do not take random shots at people.

Very true. When they killed that 13y old with his hands up obeying instructions it was not a random pot shot.

 

[muichimotsu]

Where is the evidence for this systemic racism, I have asked several times, I keep hearing about it but I have yet to see any evidence that it exists, where is the evidence.

Spoken by someone who apparently only reduces any problem to someone's actions and never to problems that are a consequence of a system that we have demonstrable facts disproportionately affected black people for centuries even into the 20th century.

Redlining, look it up, that alone affected black people's capacity to accrue generational wealth that white people never had the challenge of remotely.

 

[muichimotsu]

History has very little to do with current conditions which are not proven to be motivated by systemic racism

You don't seem to understand not everything can be proven in the satisfaction that you appear to want. Sometimes it is a matter of deduction and not hard and fast simplistic argumentation.

 

[muichimotsu]

You do not understand the law, qualified immunity applies only if the officer is doing the job in accordance with the law and the policies of the department.

Yet they can still pass around their officers like pedophile priests, to suggest there is no thin blue line that gives specialized treatment to cops internally so they can avoid culpability is naive

 

[disciple Clint]

Maybe cite your supposed facts instead of engaging in a confidence game

What facts would you like, I have no problem with providing evidence, that is the way it should be, if a statement is made it should be backed up.

 

[disciple Clint]

Very true. When they killed that 13y old with his hands up obeying instructions it was not a random pot shot.

The boy who had a gun, had just shot up the neighborhood, and tossed the gun as he squared off against the police officer who had less than one sec to make a shoot dont shoot decision. HOW about telling the whole story instead taking unwarranted and unfair shots.

 

[disciple Clint]

Spoken by someone who apparently only reduces any problem to someone's actions and never to problems that are a consequence of a system that we have demonstrable facts disproportionately affected black people for centuries even into the 20th century.

Redlining, look it up, that alone affected black people's capacity to accrue generational wealth that white people never had the challenge of remotely.

History is history, we are addressing the situation of today not decades ago. What is there to provide evidence of systematic racism today?

 

[disciple Clint]

You don't seem to understand not everything can be proven in the satisfaction that you appear to want. Sometimes it is a matter of deduction and not hard and fast simplistic argumentation.

Yes there are no facts to support things that do not exist, it is that simple.

 

[Larniavc]

had just shot up the neighborhood

Please provide evidence that an underage gun handler was shooting in the neighbourhood.

 

[disciple Clint]

Yet they can still pass around their officers like pedophile priests, to suggest there is no thin blue line that gives specialized treatment to cops internally so they can avoid culpability is naive

Can you support that opinion or is it just another allegation that has no evidence to back it up. You may not believe this but no department wants a cop who does not follow policy, people on your own team people killed when someone decides to be a cowboy. It also sets everyone back years in their efforts to build relationships with the communities, those relationships are very important and provide an abundance of information and safety for officers.

 

[disciple Clint]

Please provide evidence that an underage gun handler was shooting in the neighbourhood.

What we know about the fatal police shooting of 13-year-old Adam Toledo

 

[disciple Clint]

error

 

[Larniavc]

What we know about the fatal police shooting of 13-year-old Adam Toledo

So he was not shooting the gun at all. Seems he was an underage ‘carrier’ for the actual shooter.

Still waiting for the evidence that he was shooting up the neighbourhood.

 

[disciple Clint]

So he was not shooting the gun at all. Seems he was an underage ‘carrier’ for the actual shooter.

Still waiting for the evidence that he was shooting up the neighbourhood.

OK you may have a point, he was or the person he was with was shooting up the neighborhood, significant fact: He had the gun when the police arrived and he had gun powder residue on his hand.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Acting like it's all the black community's fault is just victim blaming and gaslighting; acting as if it isn't the responsibility of society as a whole rather than pinning all responsibility on the group that is suffering disproportionately because of social norms and biases that are setting people up for failure, black people especially

You don't get to play Uncle Tom and excuse white inaction because you think it isn't remotely a problem that has been encouraged by white people, complacent in such things. Nope, instead, you make it purely about intentional aspects rather than systemic ones that are not going to just change because we work harder within that system

The biggest threat to the black community is believing the lie that their problems are caused by someone else. I mentor troubled teens at the detention center. What do you do to help the black community? If you cannot answer that question, you are part of the problem. But the main problems in the black community begins at the home.

 

[Larniavc]

significant fact: He had the gun when the police arrived and he had gun powder residue on his hand.

No he did not. Roman had residue on his gloves. It makes no mention of Toledo having residue on his hand.

The significant fact you assert is incorrect based on YOUR link.

 

[disciple Clint]

No he did not. Roman had residue on his gloves. It makes no mention of Toledo having residue on his hand.

The significant fact you assert is incorrect based on YOUR link.

The information about the gun powder residue came from T.V. news, I should be able to find it online, I will take a look.

 

[disciple Clint]

No he did not. Roman had residue on his gloves. It makes no mention of Toledo having residue on his hand.

The significant fact you assert is incorrect based on YOUR link.

Found it: CHICAGO - Prosecutors on Saturday released new details about the night that Chicago police shot and killed 13-year-old Adam Toledo, saying that Toledo had a gun and gunshot residue on his hand. 13-year-old Adam Toledo had a gun, gunshot residue on hand when Chicago cops killed him: prosecutors

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Is suggesting black people are morally inferior to white people racist?

Disgusting.

Well...there is undoubtedly immoral people of all colors. But the statistics suggest that the moral values imbraced my many young black men are not ones that are beneficial to their communities. White folk have their own set of issues. But who's fault is it that a father left their baby-mama, forcing the mother to live in poverty and leaving Ice Cube and Lil Kim to raise them?

 

[Larniavc]

Found it: CHICAGO - Prosecutors on Saturday released new details about the night that Chicago police shot and killed 13-year-old Adam Toledo, saying that Toledo had a gun and gunshot residue on his hand. 13-year-old Adam Toledo had a gun, gunshot residue on hand when Chicago cops killed him: prosecutors

I did a deep deep dive into the ins and outs of gun shot residue and after literally minutes of typing a search string came up with the following.

“If the lab technicians find GSR, it can come from anywhere. Police take the view that if you haven’t just left the firing range, you fired the murder weapon. This argument holds great weight if you live in a society where guns are rare, such as Singapore or Japan. If you live in other places in the world, including the United States, that argument means nothing.

GSR lasts nearly forever. It can land on anything and stay there indefinitely. Because so many people in this country shoot guns and the things in their lives are covered with GSR, an individual will be covered with GSR when he or she comes in contact with these people or anything they touched.”

Gun Shot Residue Testing - Is it Still a Viable Form of Physical Evidence?

But all that is irrelevant to the thought process of the cop who saw an unarmed kid with his hands up and shot him square in the chest.