Noachian Flood discussion - Bible skeptics vs Lion IRC and friends :)

[trophy33]

During the Noachian flood.

Any evidence?

 

[Speedwell]

Please give me an example where I have used the Bible as a science textbook.

Do you consider this as one such example:

You are using the Bible as an arbiter of scientific claims, just as one might use a science textbook.

 

[MIDutch]

Any evidence?

Exactly.

 

[trophy33]

Exactly.

I mean any evidence for your statement that God missed something.

 

[MIDutch]

I mean any evidence for your statement that God missed something.

According to creationists, God flooded the world somewhere around 4500-5000 years ago. There is no evidence that ever happened. Ergo, he missed flooding the entire surface of the world.

 

[trophy33]

According to creationists, God flooded the world somewhere around 4500-5000 years ago. There is no evidence that ever happened. Ergo, he missed flooding the entire surface of the world.

Creationists are not God, though.

 

[Speedwell]

I mean any evidence for your statement that God missed something.

There is considerable evidence from various fields of inquiry. For instance, the persistence of ancient civilizations through the purported date of the flood.

 

[trophy33]

There is considerable evidence from various fields of inquiry. For instance, the persistence of ancient civilizations through the purported date of the flood.

So..?

 

[Speedwell]

Creationists are not God, though.

No, but it is their claims we are discussing.

 

[trophy33]

No, but it is their claims we are discussing.

True, but we should remember that and not to exchange words "God" and "creationists" and "bible".

Or else nobody will understand anybody.

 

[MIDutch]

Creationists are not God, though.

True, but they claim that the Bible is the "literal and inerrant" word of God. Their claim is that if it is written in the Bible, it is the "literal and inerrant" record of history. According to creationists, God said in the Bible that it flooded the world during Noah's lifetime. There is no evidence that ever happened. Ergo, God missed pretty much every spot on Earth with it's flood.

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you, or do you not, believe that the Noachian flood was an actual event?

Yes I do.

 

[Speedwell]

So..?

They stayed dry the whole time.

 

[trophy33]

Ergo, God missed pretty much every spot on Earth with it's flood.

or.... Ergo, creationists are wrong.

 

[AV1611VET]

According to creationists, God flooded the world somewhere around 4500-5000 years ago. There is no evidence that ever happened. Ergo, he missed flooding the entire surface of the world.

Maybe He cleaned up after Himself?

Remember Adam?

Did God leave a scar behind on Adam, when He removed one of his ribs?

 

[trophy33]

Did God leave a scar behind on Adam, when He removed one of his ribs?

Actually, the word means "side" not just a rib.

Its a pretty dangerous operation to cut a man in half. Have you checked Adam afterwards, if there was a scar?

 

[AV1611VET]

There is considerable evidence from various fields of inquiry. For instance, the persistence of ancient civilizations through the purported date of the flood.

Including Israel?

 

[Speedwell]

Including Israel?

No; why? The Kingdom of Israel was established sometime in the Iron Age, well after the purported date of the Flood.

 

[VirOptimus]

How so? can you give me a specific example?

Wine is not grape juice.

 

[AV1611VET]

No; why?

Just wondering.

Since science makes a mess of who came when, I was just wondering if they got anything right.