Yes, it does, it tells us that their moral code is not the objective moral standard of the universe.
You mean the one you have failed to demonstrate exists?
Any nation that puts political prisoners in concentration and re-education camps and harvests their organs and forcibly aborts babies so parents cannot have more than one child is a hell hole IMO and in the opinion of most Americans.
I never said that China was perfect, but you seem to be suffering from an extremely large beam in your eye while straining at the motes in other countries'.
It is taught by the bible and I have seen evidence of it in my own experience of meeting all kinds of people from all over the world. How is that unsubstantiated?
You've just said it yourself. The Bible and your personal experiences are not evidence of anything.
Those are all atheists that were raised in nations founded on Christian principles. I explained that that can help make them keep those principles for a while. But nevertheless if the entire government becomes and remains atheistic and tries to make the nation secular there is a slide toward tyranny. Sometimes gradual, sometimes rather quickly.
Prove it. So far, this is just baseless claims.
Yes.
You said: "Europe has started banning public speech criticizing homosexuality and Islam among other things. So they are plainly losing free speech."
And I said:
"This is just ridiculous oversimplification and misunderstanding."
My evidence is what you said. You're making the claim, you provide the evidence.
While my definition may not be the official definition.
Thank you, that will do nicely. In future, please use words according to their actual meanings.
Yes, primarily run by atheistic evolutionary humanists.
And the Christian country let them get away with it? Not that surprising, really, as it was Christians who ran the slave trade in the USA.
I am not claiming America is a perfect society, no society is perfect, but relative to China it is 100 times superior to it.
Yeah. Genocide. Warmongering. The stripping of civil rights. Systemic racism. Class warfare. Electing a criminal of appalling morals. Nothing to worry about at all.
I was raised during the Cold War plus you ought read the Gulag Archipelago and the Black Book of Communism, you might learn something. Communism is built upon a foundation of lies and they have to lie constantly to keep the illusion that it works.
Funny that you cite your experience as valid while telling me that I can't say China isn't a hellhole just because I happen to live there.
Hardly. The Trump Administration is one of the most transparent administrations in history. No tracking and punishing of journalists like the Obama administration. And most of Trumps lies are about relatively unimportant issues. He rarely ever lies about big issues.
Goodness me. It's like saying that black is white.
No, the Trump administration is not one of the most transparent administrations in history, it is a pack of liars who tell lies all the time, and I mean all the time, about everything.
They did not stop flights to Europe and America, which caused many of the cases to get to Europe and cause huge death tolls.
Mistakes were certainly made. Having said that, compared to the way the USA handled the coronavirus, China has been a model.
I dont deny he was some of those things in the past, but no longer, he changed. People can change.
Oh yes. We can all see what a kind, humble, caring person Trump is now. Not at all a spiteful, vindictive, lying con man.
They provided no evidence that he misled the people on anything important.
Of course he did. At the same time he was telling the American people that coronavirus was nothing to worry about, and that it would go away very soon, he was also talking in private about how dangerous it was and what a huge problem it would be.
Actually he and his business have lost a huge amount of money since he became president.
Which would explain his desperate grifting to try to make as much money as possible.
No evidence he has stolen anything since becoming president.
But you're happy with him having been a thief before, right? As if breaking the Emoluments Act as much as humanly possible wasn't also theft.
Many of the claims made about him even before he became president have been refuted. For example the woman that claims she was assaulted on the airplane. A man that sat next to them on the same flight said they were both flirting with each other and she never did anything that implied that she didnt want Trumps attention. The former contestant on the Apprentice that claims he assaulted her. Her own brother said she became angry with Trump when he wouldnt come to her new business she was starting and make an appearance to endorse it. Before that, her brother said she loved Trump. And there are other refutations.
Here. Go see this:
List of Trump's accusers and their allegations of sexual misconduct
Since Trump is on record as admitting to going in to changing rooms to watch beauty pageant contestants while naked, and saying that he liked to sexually assault women, and they "let you do it," I'm amazed that a self-proclaimed moralist such as yourself takes such a relaxed view of the many, many credible allegations against him.
Hardly, he did everything Fauci said to do. And more, he stopped almost all flights from China saving thousands. The experts said 2 million people were going to die, so he has potentially so far saved 1.8 million people.
The 2 million people was an estimate of the worst possible outcome. And Donald Trump is working hard to get there. Just look at how he behaves, and how he encourages others to behave. "Wear a mask? That's stupid and unmanly. You don't need to be afraid of COVID-19. Yes, all gather round, come together. Hug and kiss. Don't be afraid of some stupid virus."
I didnt say you cant tell the difference between good and evil, even atheists are created with a moral conscience by God. I am saying that if there is no God then there is no objectively existing foundation for good or evil and therefore the distinction is meaningless. In addition, you dont have a rational basis for condemning someone that engages in evil. It is just their subjective personal preference based on the chemicals in their brain produced by evolution, how can you be condemned for something you had no control over?
I know you're saying this, but you just can't prove it. I have to thank you, actually. It's good to have ideas tested. We can now see that the Euthyphro Dilemma still stands, and that Christians cannot claim God as the foundation of their morality.
No, I am just saying that it is human nature (that has not been transformed by Christ) to retaliate evil for evil. Liberals like your self tend to put the natives up on pedestals as if they were early environmental scientists and total pacifists slaughtered by the evil Christian colonists, which is a totally false picture of history.
Remind me again, who came into whose land?
If the US truly had systemic racism, Obama never would have been elected president TWICE.
And now the racists are having their revenge. Remind me again, exactly what percentage of the people who work for Donald Trump are black?
No, that was not the only reason we entered the war especially the European theater.
Yes, but often helping subject peoples was the reason for the US getting into some wars.
As I've said, history is complex. But, unsurprisingly, much of the USA's motive for entering wars was selfishness.
I will take that as an unable to refute.
I feel it would be unkind, as well as pointless, to try to correct your views on "benevolent dictators."
Vox is a major source of fake news, they still believe Trump colluded with the Russians. Even American citizens are separated from their children when they commit a crime this happens every day and can last for years or even a lifetime.
I will take that as an unable to refute.