Alleged H. Biden E-mails Circulated in Ukraine as R. Giuliani Dug for Dirt There Last Year - Time

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Why would he drop out of the race because of allegations ?

If that was all it took to get a candidate to bow out, ... all we'd hear about would be allegations ...

If this were the actual standard, Trump would have dropped out in 2015.

Amazing that we're constantly being told to live up to a standard that the current govt is seemingly under no obligation to live up to.
 
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The emails appear to be legit, but if anyone disagrees instead, regardless that Lt. Tony Bobulinski - a business associate of Hunter Biden, is claiming they are legit, then that person is not being objective at all, but is obviously biased instead.
A refresher on the American justice system ...

Americans are considered INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty

Due to the fact that all allegations are not true (i.e. people lie), Americans are entitled to a trial before their peers ... before guilt or innocence is decided.
 
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From that link we have
"Giuliani, who is President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, has passed this material to right-wing news outlets"

If it were incriminating evidence, then wouldn't it be more appropriate to pass this information onto the authorities e.g. FBI, Justice department etc.

Maybe he already tried that and go nowhere??? Trump seems excited? Has Barr said anything about it?
 
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If they manage to win, in spite of all this incriminating evidence revolving around Hunter's laptop, that's proof enough right there.
What statute is being asserted to have been broken?
 
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The difference being that one is verified truth and the other is a desperate attempt to smear a candidate, no a whole party, nay over half of the population of the country with the same muck conservatives delight in wallowing in.

Trump is going down and will be prosecuted after he leaves office, even if he flees the country which is really, really likely.
Do you want to know the truth? There are emails and now a whistleblower implicating Biden in this mess. Notice Biden has not yet denied that is Hunters laptop or what is in the emails is false. You owe it to yourself to check into this for yourself. It is not a smear campaign. Biden is probably a crook.
 
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Do you want to know the truth? There are emails and now a whistleblower implicating Biden in this mess. Notice Biden has not yet denied that is Hunters laptop or what is in the emails is false. You owe it to yourself to check into this for yourself. It is not a smear campaign. Biden is probably a crook.

None of this has been verified.

But I'm glad you claim to care about this -what about the Trump Royal Family, who has done far worse? Be consistent. It's not hard.
 
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None of this has been verified.

But I'm glad you claim to care about this -what about the Trump Royal Family, who has done far worse? Be consistent. It's not hard.
I never said Trump was not a crook. Use your critical thinking skills, its not hard.
 
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I never said Trump was not a crook. Use your critical thinking skills, its not hard.

Ah yes, 'Mr Trump, who I do not support', but we must spend more time fretting over the guy who has done less.

Come on, bruh.
 
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Ah yes, 'Mr Trump, who I do not support', but we must spend more time fretting over the guy who has done less.

Come on, bruh.
I disagree that Trump has done worse. Trump has been accused of more and is treated unfairly by the press. Both have done things that are crooked. I would just like the dems and the media to at least acknowledge that Biden is also a crook. It is plain to see.

In the end, I will vote for Trump, not becasue I like him but because he is the better option of the two in my opinion. We are better off today than 3 years ago and most people think so in a recent poll, 61%. This was done in Feb. Another was done in September and most people still thought we are better than 4 years ago 52%.

More in U.S. Say They Are Better Off Than in Past Elections

Even if Trump loses he will have helped this country with three supreme court justices and hundreds of federal judges installed.

What has or what is Biden going to do for this country?
 
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I disagree that Trump has done worse. Trump has been accused of more and is treated unfairly by the press. Both have done things that are crooked. I would just like the dems and the media to at least acknowledge that Biden is also a crook. It is plain to see.

But they are not - not to the same extent. You want to honk on about Biden's son, who isn't running, fine - we'll do that after we thoroughly investigate the failsons of the current POTUS.

In the end, I will vote for Trump, not becasue I like him but because he is the better option of the two in my opinion. We are better off today than 3 years ago and most people think so in a recent poll, 61%. This was done in Feb. Another was done in September and most people still thought we are better than 4 years ago 52%.

More in U.S. Say They Are Better Off Than in Past Elections

Even if Trump loses he will have helped this country with three supreme court justices and hundreds of federal judges installed.

What has or what is Biden going to do for this country?

Whatever you need to tell yourself, Christian, but that Trump's administration has benefited you personally does not mean it has benefitted the people of the US overall. This isn't difficult.
 
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But they are not - not to the same extent. You want to honk on about Biden's son, who isn't running, fine - we'll do that after we thoroughly investigate the failsons of the current POTUS.
Then you don't understand what Hunter and his dad did. Do you even want to know?



Whatever you need to tell yourself, Christian, but that Trump's administration has benefited you personally does not mean it has benefitted the people of the US overall. This isn't difficult.
I am an atheist. That is not what the polls say. Most think they are better off today than 4 years ago.
 
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Notice Biden has not yet denied that is Hunters laptop or what is in the emails is false.
I notice that Hunter Biden is an adult.
He probably has had several laptops.
Why would Joe know anything about Hunter’s laptops?
 
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I disagree that Trump has done worse. Trump has been accused of more and is treated unfairly by the press. Both have done things that are crooked. I would just like the dems and the media to at least acknowledge that Biden is also a crook. It is plain to see.

I haven't seen any evidence of Biden being a crook. I see a phony story about some mysterious laptops given to Rudy Guiliani by a blind guy who never saw Hunter Biden, written by someone who refused to put his name on it because it was obviously so bogus, which Fox News refused to publish because it was obviously so bogus, and we can't forget that Rudy was recently caught on camera groping himself in front of who he believed to be a 15-year-old girl so we know he's not gullible at all. It doesn't get anymore legit than that!

I think the Resurrection is more plausible.
 
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I haven't seen any evidence of Biden being a crook. I see a phony story about some mysterious laptops given to Rudy Guiliani by a blind guy who never saw Hunter Biden, written by someone who refused to put his name on it because it was obviously so bogus, which Fox News refused to publish because it was obviously so bogus, and we can't forget that Rudy was recently caught on camera groping himself in front of who he believed to be a 15-year-old girl so we know he's not gullible at all. It doesn't get anymore legit than that!
So then you don't really know the truth of the allegations then. Ok, stay uninformed.

I think the Resurrection is more plausible.
Then you need to rethink ow you evaluate evidence. Politicians on the take and using their position for personal gain is far more plausible than the resurrection.
 
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I want to know.

What do you think JOE BIDEN did ?
I don't know if he did anything wrong. Here are the allegations. Hunter took money and a "job" to lobby Joe for political favors. Joe intervened to get a prosecutor fired to protect his son who was being investigated and possibly took money as well.

The emails suggest this is what happened. Unless there is a proper investigation we will never know the truth.
 
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Joe intervened to get a prosecutor fired to protect his son who was being investigated and possibly took money as well.

This part is demonstrably untrue. Hunter was never under investigation. The company Hunter worked for wasn't actively under investigation at the time. The prosecutor was removed because he wasn't investigating corruption.

LOL, the truth is the complete opposite of what you have stated.
 
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Joe Biden isn't going to drop out, he is going to be the next President. The Democrats in power are going to make sure of this by cheating any way and every way they can.

Men aren't going to make sure of NOTHING in this election or at least not if the Almighty God has decided, "Nope not this time" they'll go down in defeat. Not saying the Dems will lose but don't base your opinion they'll win by the strength of their horses and chariots. You can fill in the blanks on just what I think the horses and chariots could be a metaphor of. We'll see soon enough.
 
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Men aren't going to make sure of NOTHING in this election or at least not if the Almighty God has decided, "Nope not this time" they'll go down in defeat. Not saying the Dems will lose but don't base your opinion they'll win by the strength of their horses and chariots. You can fill in the blanks on just what I think the horses and chariots could be a metaphor of. We'll see soon enough.

But... what if the chariots are made of iron?
 
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