Christmas tree - Good or bad

[Albion]

The Bible is about Jesus Christ and in having a relationship with Him. I believe Christmas takes away from that. I believe Christmas paints a false Jesus that does not exist.

We can agree to disagree in love and respect, but that is just how I see it, brother. Please research why Christmas is pagan.

Even Pat Robertson knows that the origins of Christmas are pagan, and he simply does not care.
He knows that Winter Solstice (which happens in December) is tied to Christmas.

And so we have one more attempt to change the topic. This time, it's from Christmas trees to the celebration of Christmas, the birth of Christ, itself.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Mercy, it's incredibly sad to me that some people would literally stomp all over something that another believer enjoys and finds beautiful in a completely sincere, harmless manner that does not threaten or besmirch their faith in any fashion.

"Oh, I love putting pretty things on this lovely tree while I celebrate Jesus!"

"HOW DARE YOU! BURN THAT THING RIGHT NOW!"

Just stop already, lol.

I did not arrive on planet Earth yesterday. I used to celebrate Christmas, and I really enjoyed it.
But my enjoyment and God's enjoyment are two different things. Am I focused on what just makes me happy in this life, or am I concerned with making God happy?

Please research the pagan origins of Christmas on Google, and YouTube. At least know that is pagan. If after you see that is pagan, and you simply do not care, then go right ahead and knock yourself out. I do not want to do anything that my Lord would find offensive.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

And so we have one more attempt to change the topic. This time, it's from Christmas trees to the celebration of Christmas, the birth of Christ, itself.

But nobody really does that. Nobody really celebrates and worships Christ on Christmas day. It's all about greed and materialism via by gift exchange around a pagan tree of the druids. Jesus would rather have us help the poor and preach the gospel. Just preaching his birth is another gospel if one never mentions how He died for our sins, He was buried, and He was risen three days later.

 

[Albion]

But nobody really does that. Nobody really celebrates and worships Christ on Christmas day.

Well, maybe you just have been 'hanging around with a bad crowd,' as the saying goes. LOL

I know hundreds of people personally who literally and genuinely worship Christ on the commemoration of his birth.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

IT'S. NOT. AN. IDOL.

Christmas trees are widely associated with the Christian holiday, but their origins are far from the Christ-worshipping standards they represent today. Evergreens, plants that stay green year-round, have been celebrated in many cultures for hundreds of years but Americans were not always accepting of the tradition.

Christmas trees did begin as a pagan tradition as early as the fourth century C.E., according to ABC News. European pagans were largely responsible for dressing their homes with the branches of evergreen fir trees in order to bring color and light into their dull winters. But pagans weren't the only people to do this. Romans also used the branches for decoration during the festival of Saturnalia, which took place from December 17 to December 23 in honor of the God Saturn.

Because of their pagan roots, American settlers were not quick to jump on the Christmas tree trend. German settlers were the first to introduce the indoor evergreen to the new country, but it didn't go over smoothly, according to the History Channel.

Source:
Are Christmas trees pagan? Inside the decoration's American history

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Well, maybe you just have been 'hanging around with a bad crowd,' as the saying goes. LOL

I know hundreds of people personally who literally and genuinely worship Christ on the commemoration of his birth.

I know people who go to church and sing songs, but is that true worship? Is just singing to God on Christmas the true worship of our Lord? How can it be when Christmas has many elements that are pagan? Do most Christians you know get excited to worship Christ on Christmas, or are they more for the gift exchange and the food, and the time off?

 

[Kenny'sID]

Please do some research on the pagan origins of Christmas, and you will see where I am coming from.

You aren't listening, I, and many others already know where you are coming from. What you are pushing is common knowledge to many, who have considered it and drawn the conclusion Christmas is nothing more than a time of giving, reason for family to get together, and for many to celebrate the birth of Christ.

Some remember Jesus at that time, and some who aren't Christian may not, nothing unusual. However, those who may not celebrate Christ, get a yearly reminder of him...gives them reason to just maybe get saved.

So, this so called pagan holiday, has morphed into a very good thing that has zero to do with tree worship or whatever else you are accusing these people of.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I have. That's why I hate to see people so misled about this.


Just another attempt to avoid the topic.

No Christian is worshipping a tree...and the Christmas tree doesn't even look like the trees of pagans gone by.

So you really don't think Christmas is pagan? Many Christians know it is pagan and they simply do not care. This to me is scary.

As for your worship of the tree statement that many have said with ad nauseam:

Again, just keeping idols around was condemned by God in the Bible. So one does not have to worship the idol in order to be out of favor with God. Just having the idol around is bad enough in God's eyes.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

You aren't listening, I, and many others already know where you are coming from. What you are pushing is common knowledge to many, who have considered it and drawn the conclusion Christmas is nothing more than a time of giving, reason for family to get together, and for many to celebrate the birth of Christ.

Some remember Jesus at that time, and some who aren't Christian may not, nothing unusual. However, those who may not celebrate Christ, get a yearly reminder of him...gives them reason to just maybe get saved.

So, this so called pagan holiday, has morphed into a very good thing that has zero to do with tree worship or whatever else you are accusing these people of.

You cannot morph or change a pagan holiday. You cannot Christianize something that is pagan. It doesn't work like that. That would be like putting lipstick on a pig. What fellowship does light have with darkness?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

The real issue here is that people do not want to change. They don't want to be alienated within their family by not celebrating Christmas. For me: Following Christ goes beyond what the world does.

 

[Kenny'sID]

You cannot morph or change a pagan holiday. You cannot Christianize something that is pagan. It doesn't work like that. That would be like putting lipstick on a pig.

Show me that official rule.

IOW, that's only your opinion, something you are attempting to state as a fact.

 

[Albion]

So you really don't think Christmas is pagan? Many Christians know it is pagan and they simply do not care. This to me is scary.

Take your crusade to them, then.

 

[Junia]

Well, maybe you just have been 'hanging around with a bad crowd,' as the saying goes. LOL

I know hundreds of people personally who literally and genuinely worship Christ on the commemoration of his birth.

me too. As I do myself. My church makes sure to preach the gospel in our Christmas services.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Show me that official rule.

IOW, that's only your opinion, something you are attempting to state as a fact.

I made my case biblically here:

Why I Think Christmas is Not Biblical (Please read OP before posting).

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Take your crusade to them, then.

Yep, just keep doin' what ya been doin. But don't tell me that I did not tell you about the truth.

 

[Junia]

The real issue here is that people do not want to change. They don't want to be alienated within their family by not celebrating Christmas. For me: Following Christ goes beyond what the world does.

I do agree with that in a day-to-day if you are convicted that something is a sin for you then you shouldn't do it and you should stick with that regardless of what family or friends say. We have to put God first and it isn't easy

 

[Bible Highlighter]

me too. As I do myself. My church makes sure to preach the gospel in our Christmas services.

Can a inappropriate content star or drunkard preach the gospel? My point here is that we as believers have to live holy and separate from the world.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I do agree with that in a day-to-day if you are convicted that something is a sin for you then you shouldn't do it and you should stick with that regardless of what family or friends say. We have to put God first and it isn't easy

Yes, I believe those who truly want Christ in this life and nothing else will see the dark origins behind Christmas and they will want nothing to do with it. I believe in time they will mature in Christ and put away Christmas out of their lives as a part of growing closer to the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Junia]

Can a inappropriate content star or drunkard preach the gospel? My point here is that we as believers have to live holy and separate from the world.

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Well none of us are qualified to preach then as none of us is without sin. We are not to sin wilfully but none of us are qualified except by the righteousness Jesus has imputed to us.

we have to wait until we are good enough to preach the gospel? It's a new one on me

 

[Junia]

Yes, I believe those who truly want Christ in this life and nothing else will see the dark origins behind Christmas and they will want nothing to do with it. I believe in time they will mature in Christ and put away Christmas out of their lives as a part of growing closer to the Lord Jesus Christ.

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that is why I got rid of the tree and the Santa elements. They don't sit right with me.