The Lord's Day is Sunday.

[AmigodeJesus]

Jesus was criticizing those who were saying the old was better.

Context, context, context - puhlease.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

To all:

What you will not find in the New Testament after Christ's death is a command to keep the Sabbath. Neither will you find in the New Testament (after His resurrection) any reference of how the Lord's day is still the Sabbath. The New Covenant went into effect officially with Christ's death. Hebrews 7:12 says the Law has changed. Show me where after Christ's death where the Lord's day is still the Sabbath. Show me a command in the New Testament after Christ's death that we must keep the Saturday Sabbath. You will not find such things.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Context, context, context - puhlease.

Yes, and you are not offering any. If you are correct, then show the context that proves otherwise.

 

[AmigodeJesus]

Yes, and you are not offering any. If you are correct, then show the context that proves otherwise.

It was your citation, in your defense. Do not shift burden of proof now.

 

[AmigodeJesus]

What you will not find in the New Testament after Christ's death is a command to keep the Sabbath.

Hebrews 4.

 

[eleos1954]

Jesus rose on the first day, and that is why a later verse in the Bible says that the early Christians met for worship on Sunday. However, he did not ascend to the Father on the same day as he rose from the grave.

John was a Jew ... He kept the sabbath just like Jesus and all the apostles .... the Lords day is the day God created for rest and communion with Him ... which is the 7th.

Matthew 12:8 (Jesus speaking)
Berean Literal Bible
For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."

The 7th day Sabbath = The Lords Day

Jesus rested (in the tomb) ... on the Sabbath ... He had finished His work (of salvation) on earth.

There is no evidence of any kind that "the first day of the week" was ever called "the Lord's Day" before the Apocalypse was written.

Where did Sunday worship come from?

The Greek "Fathers" of the Church were converts from Paganism: and it is not yet sufficiently recognized how much of Pagan rites and ceremonies and expressions they introduced into the Church; and how far Christian ritual was elaborated from and based upon Pagan ritual by the Church of Rome. Especially is this seen in the case of baptism.

It was these Fathers who, on their conversion, brought the title "Sunday" into the Church from the Pagan terminology which they had been accustomed to use in connection with their Sun-worship.

If one wants to insist upon this text (Revelation 1:10) applying to a definite day of the week, he must look elsewhere to see which day the Bible calls the Lord's Day. Jesus says in Mark 2:28 that He is Lord of the Sabbath, and thus, as Master of that day, it belongs to Him. The only day that belongs to Him is the Sabbath, the seventh day of the week. Isaiah 58:13 calls the Sabbath "My [the Lord's!] holy day." The other six days are ours to do our work and pleasures.

Finally, in the original commandment in Exodus 20:10, the Lord says, "The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God." Therefore, if John saw this vision on any day of the week—if it indeed occurred on "the Lord's day"—it was the seventh-day Sabbath!

Sunday worship became most prevalent during the rule of Constantine.

**** from Wikipedia
Sol Invictus - Wikipedia

Constantine[edit]

Coin of Emperor Constantine I depicting Solis Invictus with the legend SOLIS INVICTO COMITI, c. 315
Emperors portrayed Sol Invictus on their official coinage, with a wide range of legends, only a few of which incorporated the epithet invictus, such as the legend SOLI INVICTO COMITI, claiming the Unconquered Sun as a companion to the Emperor, used with particular frequency by Constantine.[32] Statuettes of Sol Invictus, carried by the standard-bearers, appear in three places in reliefs on the Arch of Constantine. Constantine's official coinage continues to bear images of Sol until 325/6. A solidus of Constantine as well as a gold medallion from his reign depict the Emperor's bust in profile twinned (jugate) with Sol Invictus, with the legend INVICTUS CONSTANTINUS[33]

Constantine decreed (March 7, 321) dies Solis—day of the Sun, "Sunday"—as the Roman day of rest

On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for grain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.[34]
Constantine's triumphal arch was carefully positioned to align with the colossal statue of Sol by the Colosseum, so that Sol formed the dominant backdrop when seen from the direction of the main approach towards the arch.[35]

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Context, context, context - puhlease.

The wine was representative of Jesus's blood that He would shed upon the cross. This would then start the New Testament.

Paul said:

“After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.” (1 Corinthians 11:25).

Jesus said:

“This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.” (Luke 22:20).

 

[1213]

...Here we see on “the first day” of the week (Sunday) that Jesus was already risen,....

Yes, I believe Jesus was already risen at Sunday. That is why I would say it is Saturday, if it would be related to the day Jesus was risen. However, I think the Lord’s day in Revelation means just the day of the judgment.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Hebrews 4.

Please be more specific. Please give us the exact Scripture verse.

 

[AmigodeJesus]

The New Covenant went into effect officially with Christ's death.

It was ratified by Christ's shed blood and death, now consider the New Covenant as stated by Isaiah 56:1-8; which Jesus refers to in John 10:16, and Paul in Hebrews 8 & 10, citing Jeremiah 31, of which all of Acts we see fulfillment thereof, and even in Acts 15, citing Amos, in which it is being built up, not torn down.

 

[AmigodeJesus]

Please be more specific. Please give us the exact Scripture verse.

see verse 9 in context.

 

[Albion]

John was a Jew ... He kept the sabbath just like Jesus and all the apostles .... the Lords day is the day God created for rest and communion with Him ... which is the 7th.

As you yourself showed later in the post, it's not referred to as the Sabbath but as "the Lord's Day" which parallels Christian, not OT Hebrew, usage.

There is no evidence of any kind that "the first day of the week" was ever called "the Lord's Day" before the Apocalypse was written.

Acts of the Apostles 20:7 does, and it's definitely before the Apocalypse was written.

 

[AmigodeJesus]

As you yourself showed later in the post, it's not referred to as the Sabbath but as "the Lord's Day" which parallels Christian, not OT Hebrew, usage.

Isaiah 58:13. Consider also that the NT utilizes the koine Greek Kurios (Lord) for the OT YHVH (JEHOVAH/LORD) in plethora of places.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yes, I believe Jesus was already risen at Sunday. That is why I would say it is Saturday, if it would be related to the day Jesus was risen. However, I think the Lord’s day in Revelation means just the day of the judgment.

I believe Jesus ascended two times as Scripture teaches. The first time Jesus ascended was when Jesus told Mary on the first day of the week that He will ascend to His Father (John 20:17); The second time Jesus ascended was in front of many witnesses after spending 40 days with His disciples (Acts of the Apostles 1:9).

Christ's first ascension was for the purpose of entering the temple by His blood so as to be our Heavenly High Priest between God the Father and mankind.

“Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, ” (Hebrews 10:19).

Christ's first ascension to the Father was a part of His resurrection. He had to rise to the Father to be our Heavenly High Priest so as to be our mediator between God the Father and mankind.

“But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;” (Hebrews 9:11).

To learn why I believe Christ had risen on a Saturday Sabbath with the discovery of His tomb being empty on a Sunday (with Him then later that day ascending or rising to the Father), see this CF Thread here:

My New Chronology on the Passion Week

 

[Albion]

I believe Jesus ascended two times as Scripture teaches. The first time Jesus ascended was when Jesus told Mary on the first day of the week that He will ascend to His Father (John 20:17);

...and he did ascend to his Father--40 days later.

 

[AmigodeJesus]

To learn why I believe Christ had risen on a Saturday Sabbath

Error. Goes against all known types and texts.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I guess that's the thinking all right. It seems as though a few, at least, of the well-known denominations would hold that view if it were that obvious and yet, to my knowledge, none of them do.

Truth is not defined by denominations. One can just simply read John 20:17 plainly and understand that Jesus was referring to an obvious imminent ascension. It makes no sense to let Mary know that He is going to ascend waaaay later after 40 days time spent with the disciples. Surely Jesus was just tell them in person that fact. Why else would Jesus tell Mary not to touch Him? Because He had not yet ascended to His Father. Yet, later we discover Jesus letting Thomas to touch Him. So it is pretty clear in what it says. If denominations do not accept these facts in the Bible, that is their problem.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

...and he did ascend to his Father--40 days later.

See post #37.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Error. Goes against all known types and texts.

Actually it doesn't. It fits the spiritual types include Noah coming out of the Ark. Check out this thread here:

My New Chronology on the Passion Week

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Here is a great article folks should check out:

Should We Celebrate the Lord’s Supper Every Sunday in Church?
(Note: Please take note that I may not believe everything that this author may say and teach on other topics involving the Bible; I just happen to agree with him on the point of this article).