Not a chance I'll be satisfied with that. Especially not with what I've come to believe.
I don't think any of us will know what we'll be satisfied with at that point - our bodies, old lives and old selves will be dead. We'll be changed, no longer on earth with earthly thoughts, concerns etc but understanding all things.
How do any of us know that we'll think about people that we knew while on earth and feel worried/upset/dissatisfied about the state of their soul and final destination? We are trying to think about such things now, with our earthly, finite minds - how do we know what, and how, we'll think when the dark glass has gone and we see face to face, 1 Corinthians 13:12?
Rather because they don't deserve eternal punishment.
The wages of sin is death.
We ALL deserve eternal punishment from God for disobeying, and sinning against, him. Even people who are "good" people and have lived decent lives.
Adam and Eve had a perfect relationship with their Maker, and a beautiful world to enjoy. They were asked not to do ONE thing, and they disobeyed. As a result of that, sin, death and decay came into the world, and their relationship with God was spoilt.
In his love, mercy and grace God did not leave things like that. Even in the garden he promised that one day one of Eve's descendants would crush the devil's head - and eventually he sent Jesus, who did just that and gives eternal life, forgiveness and reconciliation with God to all who believe and accept him.
Well that's I mean: it makes a lot more sense based on the scriptures. No tears, sorrow, death, all things new, God being all in all, all things reconciled to God, great joy to all people.
Except that that does not agree with other Scriptures which teach eternal punishment, and that anyone who doesn't believe will perish. Nowhere does it say "no need to receive God now, you can repent after you die". Or "yes, you've led an evil life now, and when you die you will perish for a short time. But eventually you'll be with God in heaven."
The continued warnings I'm sure are there for a reason. Not just to get saved. God demands perfection of us.
So God DEMANDS perfection of us now, even though we'll never achieve it, and whether someone is 5% perfect or 99% perfect when they die, they go to be with him anyway?
Why would anyone bust a gut trying to be perfect in this life if, when they die, God is still going to take them to heaven anyway? How unreasonable of God to demand something that we're never going to be able to achieve and then, one day, we'll end up in the same place as all the murderers, infidels and people who didn't even try to achieve it.
That reminds me of my brother at university; no way was he going to work all hours to try and get a 1st class degree. He knew that he could do less work, have time for fun, pub crawls etc and still get a 2:1, which is still a very good degree. He and his fiancée (now wife, who got a first,) both ended up with the same thing - a degree.
Sure you would. Those who preach heresy tend not to be saved.
If they are deliberately preaching something that they know is a lie; maybe.
But what of someone who interprets the Scriptures differently?
Like it or not, Universalism is an unorthodox Christian belief (see CF statement of faith). It may be discussed only in this Controversial Christian Theology forum and is not a belief of mainstream churches. But I, for one, am not going to say that anyone who is unorthodox in their Christian beliefs is not saved. Some people do say such things - as in, "if you don't go to this church, use this translation of Scripture or believe this doctrine you are not saved." I have had that said to me. They decided to judge me and my salvation and concluded that I am still unsaved - they were wrong.
You could make a judgement that someone who does not go to church, works on a Sunday, or a number of other things is not saved; you could be very wrong. Although apparently both saved and unsaved are eventually going to be in heaven - so I guess it makes no difference what anyone believes.
They aren't lead into all truth yet by the Spirit right after their conversion so they might still be unsound in their doctrine but on the other hand are from the beginning eager to preach, or at least share their testimony.
What does it matter if anyone has unsound doctrine now, or even a different faith; if they are going to be saved anyway?
I realize that. But what I have heard from a preacher (I don't remember which one so I can't vouch for him) is that in Jesus' time marriage was a lot different. Hardly anybody married in freedom, but was given in marriage, in particular the women. Maybe that'll be done away with, not true love, I hope.
It doesn't really matter how marriage was back then; Jesus said there's no marriage in heaven.
I'm speaking about my own (eternal) life and how I want to live. And that is with a woman, in loving harmony forever.
Til death do you part.
Widows and widowers are at perfect liberty to marry again, without breaking their first vows. A woman who married young could have 3 husbands during her life - quite legally and respectably if they were all ill and died/were killed.
The Sadducees asked Jesus this question; a woman married 7 times after her various husbands died; whose wife will she be in heaven? Jesus replied that there is no marriage in heaven, Mark 12:18-27.
I'm happier now living a relatively godly life than when I lived still ungodly, so, no thanks, that isn't the best of both worlds to me.
I wasn't referring to you; I was thinking of an unbeliever who might say "so I can have fun with my friends now, not go to church or read my Bible and still be in heaven?"
I have heard people who've said, "I'll think about becoming a Christian later", or "you have to give up loads of stuff when you become a Christian, I don't want that - yet". Generally, the Christian's response is "come to Christ now; you don't know how much time you have left", or "repent and believe now; if you put it off, you may not do it at all and one day it'll be too late." There is a Scripture which says "seek the Lord while he may be found", and another which says "NOW is the day of salvation."
I have never heard any preacher or evangelist say to people, "you don't want to respond to the Gospel? That's cool; you'll be saved one day", or "you don't believe in God? Don't worry; wait until you meet him and can see him, then you'll believe and be able to repent."
Sure. I used to find it hard to test preachers, paid real close attention to every thing they said and believed. I was also scared to judge them, because what if I thought they weren't born again when in fact they were,
You can judge - discern - by their words whether or not they are preaching Scripture; you cannot judge whether or not they have really heard the Good News, believe that God loves them and accepted him as both Saviour and Lord.
When I was a teenager I had been going to church for some years and had a reasonable knowledge of Scripture. But I didn't believe God loved me; I was still scared of him and trying to earn his approval. I accepted him many times, tried to serve him and wanted to believe in his love. Was I saved? Some would say "no", others would say "yes, but you weren't living it".
John Wesley, when an ordained vicar, used to have a book in which he wrote all his sins, and tried harder and harder to live a Godly life. Then, in 1738 (on 24th May) he had an experience of God which he described as having his heart "strangely warmed". After that, he truly believed that he was a son of God, that Jesus died for him - and his preaching ministry took off big time. His brother had had a similar experience a few days before, and wrote the first of thousands of hymns. Were they saved when they were clergymen, serving Jesus and teaching the faith but mostly in their own strength, without knowing him? Some would say "No, they were converted only on that day", others would say "of course they were - they just received baptism in/an anointing of the Holy Spirit."
No one can judge if someone else is saved, because we don't know people's hearts - and also have different ideas about "being saved". How would you judged whether someone with Down's Syndrome/brain damage/severe mental illness is saved? You have no idea about their prayers, their heart and their faith.
It is indeed not believe what you like, and hate God as much as you like, but the last part is true. You're going to live eternally and you're going to like it.
I'm going to live eternally, yes.
A person who rejects God, continues to reject God and says they hate him; may not.
Otherwise there'd be no point in preaching the Gospel.
"You hate God and don't want to live forever? No problem; he'll get you one day and you can't do anything about it."
"You have no intention of going to heaven to be with God forever? Tough. You could murder all your Christian neighbours and burn down the church; you're still going. "
"You're not going to let anyone drag you kicking and screaming into church? Well God's going to drag you kicking and screaming into heaven, so you might as well get used to it."