The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

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I follow the true Gospel, I do not preach a Gospel that would condemn me. If your message is correct, you condemn yourself. Yet you do not believe you are condemned do you, so in your own life, you do not believe what you write here

Why would Jesus give us teachings that would later be changed or nullified quickly after the cross? It makes no sense. Yes, the 613 Laws of Moses had ended when Christ died upon the cross, but you fail to realize that Jesus was making changes to the Old Law (even before the New Covenant went officially into effect with His death). For Jesus was primarily teaching New Covenant teachings and not Old Covenant teachings during His earthly ministry.

How so?

Jesus clearly was making changes to the Law (even before the cross):
(Which means He was not teaching primarily Old Covenant, but New Covenant):

The Old Way says:
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth"
(Matthew 5:38 cf. Exodus 21:23-25).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39).


The Old Way says:
"Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment" (Matthew 5:21 cf. Numbers 35:30-32).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." (Matthew 5:22).


The Old Way says:
"Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:" (Matthew 5:34 cf. Numbers 30:1-2, Deuteronomy 23:21).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
34 "But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil." (Matthew 5:34-37).


The Old Way says:
"And of thy mercy cut off mine enemies, and destroy all them that afflict my soul: for I am thy servant." (Psalms 143:12).

"And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live, she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent." (Joshua 6:17).

"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword." (Joshua 6:21).

16 "But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee" (Deuteronomy 20:16-17).

"They did not destroy the nations, concerning whom the LORD commanded them" (Psalms 106:34).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" (Matthew 5:44).

Note: Yes, I am aware that the Old Way (Old Testament) also teaches to love one's enemies (Exodus 23:4-5) (Proverbs 25:21), but this was in context to their own Israelite people, and not pagan nations. Pagan nations were to be destroyed when God commanded the Israelites to destroy them. But Jesus taught a radically different way. Love your enemies, and do good to them that hate you, and to pray for those who persecute you.


The Old Way says:
20 "But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the harlot in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel." (Deuteronomy 22:20-22).

4 "They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?" (John 8:4-5).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. " (John 8:7).


Even after the cross, there were changes being made:

The Old Covenant says this about circumcision:
"And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant." (Genesis 17:14).

Yet, the New Covenant says this about circumcision:
"Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing."
(Galatians 5:2).


The Old Covenant says this about the Sabbath:
32 "And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34 And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
35 And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses." (Numbers 15:32-36).

Yet, the New Covenant says this about the Sabbath:
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:" (Colossians 2:16).

So it appears things have changed.

This makes sense because again, Hebrews 7:12 says the Law has changed.

"For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law."
(Hebrews 7:12).

“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
(John 1:17).

Jesus said,
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17).

Jesus came not to abolish the Law (in the sense of destroying all forms of Law), but Jesus came to fulfill the Law (i.e. to nail to the cross those ordinances that were against us [like the Old Covenant ceremonial laws], and Jesus came to give us a more fulfilled and perfect way of obeying God via the commands that come directly from Him and His followers). For Jesus offered a more perfect way of loving God, and loving our neighbor (Which of course is only possible via if we are first saved by God's grace through faith).

 

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I don't read long posts. Despite your attempts to the contrary through copy/pasting, It is quite clear what Paul wrote, believers must die to the law, and the example he gave as to why this was so is: Thou shalt not covet

Well, first, the copying and pasting was primarily my own words. Second, information is not your enemy; The content I provided is from the Bible. There is no need for me to reply to you here because it has been explained in my other post that you will not read.

 

[bobsmename]

Why would Jesus give us teachings that would later be changed or nullified quickly after the cross? It makes no sense. Yes, the 613 Laws of Moses had ended when Christ died upon the cross, but you fail to realize that Jesus was making changes to the Old Law (even before the New Covenant went officially into effect with His death). For Jesus was primarily teaching New Covenant teachings and not Old Covenant teachings during His earthly ministry.

How so?

Jesus clearly was making changes to the Law (even before the cross):
(Which means He was not teaching primarily Old Covenant, but New Covenant):

The Old Way says:
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth"
(Matthew 5:38 cf. Exodus 21:23-25).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39).


The Old Way says:
"Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment" (Matthew 5:21 cf. Numbers 35:30-32).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." (Matthew 5:22).


The Old Way says:
"Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:" (Matthew 5:34 cf. Numbers 30:1-2, Deuteronomy 23:21).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
34 "But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil." (Matthew 5:34-37).


The Old Way says:
"And of thy mercy cut off mine enemies, and destroy all them that afflict my soul: for I am thy servant." (Psalms 143:12).

"And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live, she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent." (Joshua 6:17).

"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword." (Joshua 6:21).

16 "But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee" (Deuteronomy 20:16-17).

"They did not destroy the nations, concerning whom the LORD commanded them" (Psalms 106:34).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" (Matthew 5:44).

Note: Yes, I am aware that the Old Way (Old Testament) also teaches to love one's enemies (Exodus 23:4-5) (Proverbs 25:21), but this was in context to their own Israelite people, and not pagan nations. Pagan nations were to be destroyed when God commanded the Israelites to destroy them. But Jesus taught a radically different way. Love your enemies, and do good to them that hate you, and to pray for those who persecute you.


The Old Way says:
20 "But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the harlot in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel." (Deuteronomy 22:20-22).

4 "They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?" (John 8:4-5).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. " (John 8:7).


Even after the cross, there were changes being made:

The Old Covenant says this about circumcision:
"And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant." (Genesis 17:14).

Yet, the New Covenant says this about circumcision:
"Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing."
(Galatians 5:2).


The Old Covenant says this about the Sabbath:
32 "And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34 And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
35 And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses." (Numbers 15:32-36).

Yet, the New Covenant says this about the Sabbath:
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:" (Colossians 2:16).

So it appears things have changed.

This makes sense because again, Hebrews 7:12 says the Law has changed.

"For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law."
(Hebrews 7:12).

“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
(John 1:17).

Jesus said,
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17).

Jesus came not to abolish the Law (in the sense of destroying all forms of Law), but Jesus came to fulfill the Law (i.e. to nail to the cross those ordinances that were against us [like the Old Covenant ceremonial laws], and Jesus came to give us a more fulfilled and perfect way of obeying God via the commands that come directly from Him and His followers). For Jesus offered a more perfect way of loving God, and loving our neighbor (Which of course is only possible via if we are first saved by God's grace through faith).

You quote law from the old covenant as applicable to the new don't you? Yes, Jesus brought the law to its full weight so to speak. It was then to a much higher lever than the words written in OT law. And no one could faultlessly obey that, could they

 

[bobsmename]

Well, first, the copying and pasting was primarily my own words. Second, information is not your enemy; The content I provided is from the Bible. There is no need for me to reply to you here because it has been explained in my other post that you will not read.

You do not understand Paul's message, that is why you seek to explain it away

 

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Is it loving your neighbour as yourself to demand of him what you do not demand of yourself to inherit eternal life? It isn't is it, that's why I don't do it. I want to obey Jesus

So you simply are not believing the words of Jesus here in that you think that we should not love God and not love our neighbor as a part of inheriting eternal life. We should simply reject these words of Jesus based on our own experience? If that is the case, then we are done talking. To love God and to love others are the two greatest commandments. If we do not love, we are nothing according to Paul (See: 1 Corinthians 13).

 

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You quote law from the old covenant as applicable to the new don't you? Yes, Jesus brought the law to its full weight so to speak. It was then to a much higher lever than the words written in OT law. And no one could faultlessly obey that, could they

No. Jesus was making CHANGES to the Law. Please re-read my post again.
Anyways, I do not think we are going to agree. You believe the words of Jesus should not be followed (Which goes against what being a Christian is). So I think it is best we no longer communicate between each other anymore.

 

[bobsmename]

Well, first, the copying and pasting was primarily my own words. Second, information is not your enemy; The content I provided is from the Bible. There is no need for me to reply to you here because it has been explained in my other post that you will not read.

Lets put it simply for you. If I told you, righteousness before God hinged on not thinking of a pink rabbit, hell awaits you if you think of it, what will soon consume your mind?
Consequently, if you actually believed hell awaits you if you dwell on impure thoughts, what would soon consume your mind? Saul was an ardent Pharisee

 

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Lets put it simply for you. If I told you, righteousness before God hinged on not thinking of a pink rabbit, hell awaits you if you think of it, what will soon consume your mind?
Consequently, if you actually believed hell awaits you if you dwell on impure thoughts, what would soon consume your mind? Saul was an ardent Pharisee

I have heard this argument before. This is what would happen if a person is still unconverted or carnal, and they did not surrender their life to Jesus. Again, I think it is best we no longer communicate if you imply that we should not follow the words of Jesus.

 

[Neogaia777]

First, nobody is suggesting that we do not seek forgiveness with Jesus Christ whereby we will receive a new heart with new desires. Most Christians who believe we need Sanctification as a part of Justification are not saying we should not have an unregenerate heart. Surely we must first be born again by God (Which is only possible when we surrender our lives to Him).

Second, this view on Matthew 19 does not say, "We all fail, etc, etc." Those are your words that interjected into the text that does not exist. The whole point of why Jesus said what He did to the rich young ruler was not that it was futile to keep His commandments, but that is exactly what He desired of His disciples to do. Read the end of Matthew 19. It does not sound like Jesus was making a point on the futility of keeping His commands. In fact, He teaching them the exact opposite. For the disciples at that time (not us exactly) He was commanding them to forsake all things as a part of eternal life. To a degree, I believe we as believers need to surrender and or dedicate all things in time to the Lord. Everything we own should be in focus to God's Kingdom. Everything we do should be done as if unto the Lord.

Three, Legalism is a term that goes thrown around a lot falsely. Yet, would you call Jesus a Legalist because He said if you will enter into life, keep the commandments? (Matthew 19:17). Paul says we can deny God by a lack of works (Titus 1:16). Acts of the Apostles 3:23 says if anyone does not hear that prophet (JESUS), they will be destroyed. I don't know about you, but I would prefer to hear the words of Jesus and follow Him in what He says then to be destroyed. Just because somebody claims to be a believer or they just have a belief in Him alone for salvation (with no visible fruit) does not mean anything to GOD.

Four, the heart is the issue, but I do not think we agree on how that works. Jesus said, "A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things." (Matthew 12:35). So a person needs to have a new heart whereby they will bring forth only good treasure out of their hearts towards God and others.


Side Note:

I am replying to you here because another poster suggested your post as if it was insightful (of which I do not agree).

I thought parts of it were insightful...

And is sanctification unto perfection always a absolute requirement for justification always, etc...?

And I believe part of Jesus ministry might have been to show certain people the futility of keeping and/or perfectly fulfilling and/or obeying fully, the "whole entire OT letter of the Law Covenant of Moses or it's righteous standards, etc" "in their own will and or own strength and abilities only", and "inwardly and on their own", etc... Anyway, I think part of Jesus ministry was to show the futility of that, etc...

He did want us to keep them and be able to keep and obey them, but also knew fully that we would never be able to ever fully do that in our own will and strength only ever, etc, but only in and with God's own will and strength only ever, etc, (knew these two were diametrically opposed, etc) anyway, which would require real true relationship with God first to be able to do that, etc, which meant we would first have to abandon that old way and be reconciled to God before we could ever do that first, etc, which could only come by people abandoning and forsaking that old way (but not abandoning it's standards) and coming to Him first, etc, and going only through Him to get and have that, etc, etc, etc, so on and so forth, etc, etc, etc...

And our hearts would have to changed first of during the process of that also, etc, etc, etc, so on and so forth, etc...

He had to do a lot, and lay and/or establish a lot of foundational groundwork first, and at the same time, get rid of some others, etc...

Also probably knew a lot of people would just not understand very much, or very much fully at that time either, or fully get or understand Him and all that He was doing at that time instantly or overnight either, etc, or also either, etc...

Anyway,

God Bless!

 

[bobsmename]

So you simply are not believing the words of Jesus here in that you think that we should not love God and not love our neighbor as a part of inheriting eternal life. We should simply reject these words of Jesus based on our own experience? If that is the case, then we are done talking. To love God and to love others are the two greatest commandments. If we do not love, we are nothing according to Paul (See: 1 Corinthians 13).

Why not respond to the point made, I will repeat it:
Is it loving your neighbour as yourself to demand of him what you do not demand of yourself to inherit eternal life? It isn't is it, that's why I don't do it. I want to obey Jesus

 

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You do not understand Paul's message, that is why you seek to explain it away

Nothing to explain away. Everything neatly fits together in what I said with Scripture as a whole. You don't even know what I said because you said you do not read long posts.

 

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Why not respond to the point made, I will repeat it:
Is it loving your neighbour as yourself to demand of him what you do not demand of yourself to inherit eternal life? It isn't is it, that's why I don't do it. I want to obey Jesus

I don't believe you that you want to obey Jesus because you are speaking against His detailed instructions for us. Again, I think it is best we agree to disagree and that I no longer converse with you. I will not endlessly argue with folks who seek to not obey the words of Jesus or who encourage that it is impossible to obey them.

 

[bobsmename]

I have heard this argument before. This is what would happen if a person is still unconverted or carnal, and they did not surrender their life to Jesus. Again, I think it is best we no longer communicate if you imply that we should not follow the words of Jesus.

No it is not what would happen if a person was carnal, unconverted, it happens all the time today, as many who join the wrong churches can testify. And you had a response concerning Jesus words, the law is in believers hearts, so they obviously want to obey what is in their hearts.

 

[jahel]

Failure to abide in Christ is a mortal sin.

For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward.

For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. Who is it that overcomes the world except the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.”

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.

“Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— for they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”

Though formerly I was a blasphemer, persecutor, and insolent opponent. But I received mercy because I had acted ignorantly in unbelief

And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and “by the prince of demons he casts out the demons.” And he called them to him and said to them in parables, “How can Satan cast out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end.

And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges.

And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. “You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you.”

 

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No it is not what would happen if a person was carnal, unconverted, it happens all the time today, as many who join the wrong churches can testify. And you had a response concerning Jesus words, the law is in believers hearts, so they obviously want to obey what is in their hearts.

Again, they believe in Eternal Security or Belief Alone-ism (Which is why they fail). God cannot agree with sin (Which is what these doctrines imply). Again, I am moving on from talking from you. There is nothing to be gained in our discussions here (if you imply that we cannot obey the words of Jesus). You can follow your own path, I will follow Jesus.

 

[bobsmename]

I don't believe you that you want to obey Jesus because you are speaking against His detailed instructions for us. Again, I think it is best we agree to disagree and that I no longer converse with you. I will not endlessly argue with folks who seek to not obey the words of Jesus or who encourage that it is impossible to obey them.

Where have I spoken against Jesus teaching? I fully believe we should love our neighbour as yourself. It is certainly not loving your neighbour to demand of them what you do not demand of yourself to inherit eternal life. Jesus reserved his harshest words for such people

 

[bobsmename]

Again, they believe in Eternal Security or Belief Alone-ism (Which is why they fail). God cannot agree with sin (Which is what these doctrines imply). Again, I am moving on from talking from you. There is nothing to be gained in our discussions here (if you imply that we cannot obey the words of Jesus). You can follow your own path, I will follow Jesus.

It would help if you understand the foundation upon which the Christian faith stands, but you do not sadly. And I would say, I am more eager than you to follow Jesus teaching based on what you have written here

 

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Where have I spoken against Jesus teaching? I fully believe we should love our neighbour as yourself. It is certainly not loving your neighbour to demand of them what you do not demand of yourself to inherit eternal life. Jesus reserved his harshest words for such people

In post #259, you said,

"So you claim not to invite friends or family home for a meal but rather the poor, lame, blind and beggars so you may receive your reward in Heaven for doing so?
If someone stole something of yours, you would gladly give them more than what they stole with nothing but love in your heart for them?
You truly in your heart love all your enemies, without slip, those who may persecute you, lie ab out you, or be unkind to you in anyway?
You leap for joy if you are persecuted?
If you have ever fasted you have not so much as hinted to anyone you are fasting?
If anyone wanted to borrow from you, you would give to them without ever expecting anything back?" ~ Quote by: Bobsmename.​

These questions cast doubt on in that we cannot obey the words of Jesus.

 

[Neogaia777]

Again, they believe in Eternal Security or Belief Alone-ism (Which is why they fail). God cannot agree with sin (Which is what these doctrines imply). Again, I am moving on from talking from you. There is nothing to be gained in our discussions here (if you imply that we cannot obey the words of Jesus). You can follow your own path, I will follow Jesus.

Again, it is the way in which we do that friend...

One way has a very good chance of success, but the other way utterly fails and completely goes against having any kind of real true good chance ever my friend...

God Bless!

 

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It would help if you understand the foundation upon which the Christian faith stands, but you do not sadly. And I would say, I am more eager than you to follow Jesus teaching based on what you have written here

No, your not. You are not interested in following Jesus by what you said so far.
You made it appear like nobody can obey Jesus.