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Have you actually read the Old Testament?
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The punishment for sin is death. Punishment has no benefit. Discipline is intended to correct attitudes and behaviour. They may seem the same but they are worlds apart. We are exhorted to accept God's discipline as something beneficial, not as a pointless punishment. Ananias and Sapphira attempted to deceive the early Christians. It says that Satan filled Ananias' heart, the same thing that happened with Judas. They lied to the Holy Spirit. If they had got away with it, the earliest days of the Church would have been marred by their deception. Note the result of their treatment. Christians began to have a healthy respect for God. The Church flourished.I believe Jesus died for our sins as a way to get into Heaven but there's differently no proof that him dying stops us from getting punished. Anais and his wife was punished with death almost immediately for lying and sin. What is the difference between discipline and punishment? Discipline seems like a "nicer" word to cover punishment but ultimately its the same thing.
In the OT, it was truly, "one strike ... you're out". The OT is a lesson for us. Clearly, part of the lesson is that God has the authority and justification to end any life ... which does not conform 100% to His will.Just look at the Old Testament there is no mercy. Those who are told they are going to die die (Davids son, Achan etc). The Old Testament seemed like a very much "one strike rule you're out". It seems God rarely spared lives besides the rare occasions Isreal/Judah repented. Moving to the New Testament I see cases like ananias and sapphira. It just seems like to me there's way more death than mercy/lives and judgment being spared. If anyone has any counter argument verses feel free but.
Part of the problem is perhaps how you define mercy. Another part is perhaps how you view mankind. At the end of the day because we sin we aren't entitled to God's mercy. He is completely justified sending every last one of us to Hell for all eternity. That he saves anyone is a testament to his mercy. I would submit not recognizing that fact is why you don't view God as merciful.Just look at the Old Testament there is no mercy. Those who are told they are going to die die (Davids son, Achan etc). The Old Testament seemed like a very much "one strike rule you're out". It seems God rarely spared lives besides the rare occasions Isreal/Judah repented. Moving to the New Testament I see cases like ananias and sapphira. It just seems like to me there's way more death than mercy/lives and judgment being spared. If anyone has any counter argument verses feel free but.
Just look at the Old Testament there is no mercy. Those who are told they are going to die die (Davids son, Achan etc). The Old Testament seemed like a very much "one strike rule you're out". It seems God rarely spared lives besides the rare occasions Isreal/Judah repented. Moving to the New Testament I see cases like ananias and sapphira. It just seems like to me there's way more death than mercy/lives and judgment being spared. If anyone has any counter argument verses feel free but.
This is my reasoning on the subject of God being merciful.Just look at the Old Testament there is no mercy. Those who are told they are going to die die (Davids son, Achan etc). The Old Testament seemed like a very much "one strike rule you're out". It seems God rarely spared lives besides the rare occasions Isreal/Judah repented. Moving to the New Testament I see cases like ananias and sapphira. It just seems like to me there's way more death than mercy/lives and judgment being spared. If anyone has any counter argument verses feel free but.
The Law is Holy, Good and Just.The "law" has no mercy, while the new covenant does.
Mercy has to do with the womb. The way a mother gives her womb to her child to offer protection for the first 9 months of life. Yes eventually they are born into the world. But her mercy endures forever as she continues to provide and take care of the child.
Did you happen to read how evil he was?Just look at the Old Testament there is no mercy. Those who are told they are going to die die (Davids son, Achan etc).
What of King Saul? Many times he intended to kill David if not for God protecting him.TommySoda said:The Old Testament seemed like a very much "one strike rule you're out".
Those two had pledged to give a certain amount, but when it came down to it, they lied and gave less. It's not that they were being forced to give more, but it was on their decision that they renegged on. They kept it back and sought to hide it by agreeing not to admit their changed plans.TommySoda said:It seems God rarely spared lives besides the rare occasions Isreal/Judah repented. Moving to the New Testament I see cases like ananias and sapphira.
You've mentioned 2 cases where death happened. Compared to all of the times where mercy was shown.TommySoda said:It just seems like to me there's way more death than mercy/lives and judgment being spared. If anyone has any counter argument verses feel free but.
God has killed lots of people in the Bible. Do you think that TommySoda has listed the ONLY TWO TIMES that God has shown inconstancy in the Bible? There are numerous examples.Did you happen to read how evil he was?
What of King Saul? Many times he intended to kill David if not for God protecting him.
What of the evil kings who did many evil things before they finally died?
Those two had pledged to give a certain amount, but when it came down to it, they lied and gave less. It's not that they were being forced to give more, but it was on their decision that they renegged on. They kept it back and sought to hide it by agreeing not to admit their changed plans.
They could have just repented. But they chose to lie.
You've mentioned 2 cases where death happened. Compared to all of the times where mercy was shown.
I think that you should not get your information from infidel resources where they purposely don't say anything good about God.
Well I only meant to imply that if he's going to make a point of how many. Then he should mention many examples. For instance I mentioned the many evil kings of Israel. With everyone of them is an example of God's mercy in that they continued to live in spite of their evil.God has killed lots of people in the Bible. Do you think that TommySoda has listed the ONLY TWO TIMES that God has shown inconstancy in the Bible? There are numerous examples.
Hmm. Did you ever think that it might be a good idea to judge your judge, before blindly accepting your judge’s judgment?Well I only meant to imply that if he's going to make a point of how many. Then he should mention many examples. For instance I mentioned the many evil kings of Israel. With everyone of them is an example of God's mercy in that they continued to live in spite of their evil.
So the idea that it's "one sin and your dead".. is false.
Of course not.One can only judge according to what one reads. How bout yourself? Do you judge blindly?
The Law is Holy, Good and Just.That is why the Law condemns us all.What we pray for is the Law becomes our tutor which directly points us to Jesus Christ where we find Grace and Peace.
Well I only meant to imply that if he's going to make a point of how many. Then he should mention many examples. For instance I mentioned the many evil kings of Israel. With everyone of them is an example of God's mercy in that they continued to live in spite of their evil.
So the idea that it's "one sin and your dead".. is false.
Just look at the Old Testament there is no mercy. Those who are told they are going to die die (Davids son, Achan etc). The Old Testament seemed like a very much "one strike rule you're out". It seems God rarely spared lives besides the rare occasions Isreal/Judah repented. Moving to the New Testament I see cases like ananias and sapphira. It just seems like to me there's way more death than mercy/lives and judgment being spared. If anyone has any counter argument verses feel free but.
The tendency unchecked is there, yes. However, God is merciful and gracious for love covers the multitude of sin.We are born into sin.....so trying to avoid the "one" is too late.
In our vernacular that makes it sound like she slept with someone and got pregnant when actually it speaks of the condition of man's inclination to sin. But that is not the end of the story.SkyWriting said:Psalm 51:5
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Rom.5:6-10SkyWriting said:Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned..
Isaiah 55:7 "Let the wicked forsake their ways and the unrighteous their thoughts. Let them turn to the LORD, and he will have mercy on them, and to our God, for he will freely pardon."SkyWriting said:Psalm 58
The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.
Rom.5:20 "But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound."SkyWriting said:Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,