I've heard some good stuff from Craig, but this was frankly disappointing. He assumes that without belief in "ultimate purpose", life becomes meaningless, yet here I am, an unbeliever with a life full of meaning. Yes, I believe we will all die and nothing will "ultimately" matter, but I don't understand how a smart guy like Craig figures can conclude that means nothing means anything to anyone now. It's kind of like saying there's no point in having fun today, because that fun won't last forever so you might as well kill yourself.
Also, what's the deal with implying that people who don't believe in objective morality will turn into shoplifters? It's simply not true. If anything, my sense of moral obligation has only gotten stronger after losing faith.
Since I have no fear of punishment in the afterlife, and no hope of reward in the afterlife, my focus, my search for meaning and morality, and my desire to change the world for the better, is in the here and now.
I think he's got it exactly backwards - if death is NOT the end, then it's life NOW that's essentially meaningless. It's just a precursor for eternity, it has no real value in and of itself. And morality too just becomes a question of reward and punishment in the afterlife, rather than doing the right thing because it's, well, the right thing.
Hmm. I think it's you who's misunderstanding the idea. I'm not sure I can add anything more, because I will repeat myself. But you're dead wrong my friend.
Your meaning is illusory, so is that of others, on your view. But ignorance is bliss. You went back into the matrix, just like Cypher.
Without objective morality, it doesn't matter what you do. Shoplift or not. There is nothing right in itself. Why do you think consequences and intrinsic value of moral actions are mutually exclusive? I believe in both.
Did you say "for the better"?!?! That implies ought! And it is a forbidden concept! Have you forgotten?
There is no better or worse. There just is.
What you do now determines your eternity. Nothing futile in that! I try to win souls for Christ because of eternity! Your very soul my friend.
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