Who wrote Hebrews?

[Dave-W]

Every chapter. Every verse. All history of the followers of Jesus. All as written, as breathed, as inspired, as taught by God to Ekklesia. There is nothing at all in line with Scripture even permitting that a woman could be the author of any of the Scripture, and it is clearly not God's Plan, Purpose, nor His Way. All of His Word, Plan and Purpose, all of Scripture, is in perfect harmony - no such errors or doubting as you seem to suggest possible.

Ah - in other words, tradition of men theory.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Deborah or Marys song?

Like the religious teachers who knew the TORAH and PROPHETS and PSALMS , (Scripture known to Jesus and all the disciples), they could quote Moses and even claimed to be children of Abraham, but Jesus said they were sons of the devil because they rejected Jesus and they did not understand the truth or power of God's Word.

The Scripture is Yahweh's Breathed, Inspired Word as He Accomplished, and ideas opposed to His Word are not to even be considered.

 

[Anto9us]

that most people have not even read the Bible

What about YOU, yesh -- have you ever read Song of Deborah or declarations by Elizabeth and Mary when they met, pregnant with John the Baptist and Jesus?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Ah - in other words, tradition of men theory.

Unsure what you mean, but the tradition of men and theories have no place in Yahweh's Word , Plan, or Purpose if they are opposed to Him, as most all that are believed on earth and in forums on the internet are.
Jesus always said that few find the narrow road to life, while many are on the wide road to destruction --- thus many will promote false teachings instead of truth.

 

[Anto9us]

Magnificat

My soul magnifies the Lord
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior;
Because He has regarded the lowliness of His handmaid;
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed;
Because He who is mighty has done great things for me,
and holy is His name;
And His mercy is from generation to generation
on those who fear Him.
He has shown might with His arm,
He has scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and has exalted the lowly.
He has filled the hungry with good things,
and the rich He has sent away empty.
He has given help to Israel, his servant, mindful of His mercy
Even as he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his posterity forever.

An original hymn of praise by Virgin Mary.

 

[Anto9us]

Luk 1:41
And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
Luk 1:42
And she spake out with a loud voice, and said,


Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
Luk 1:43
And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
Luk 1:44
For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.
Luk 1:45
And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.


Elizabeth's declaration when Mary visited her.

 

[mindlight]

Like the religious teachers who knew the TORAH and PROPHETS and PSALMS , (Scripture known to Jesus and all the disciples), they could quote Moses and even claimed to be children of Abraham, but Jesus said they were sons of the devil because they rejected Jesus and they did not understand the truth or power of God's Word.

The Scripture is Yahweh's Breathed, Inspired Word as He Accomplished, and ideas opposed to His Word are not to even be considered.

So if I quote the song Mary sang or Deborahs words I am spouting evil lies!?

 

[Anto9us]

Jdg 5:1

Then sang Deborah and Barak the son of Abinoam on that day, saying,

Jdg 5:2

Praise ye the LORD for the avenging of Israel, when the people willingly offered themselves.

Jdg 5:3

Hear, O ye kings; give ear, O ye princes; I, even I, will sing unto the LORD; I will sing praise to the LORD God of Israel.

Jdg 5:4

LORD, when thou wentest out of Seir, when thou marchedst out of the field of Edom, the earth trembled, and the heavens dropped, the clouds also dropped water.

Jdg 5:5

The mountains melted from before the LORD, even that Sinai from before the LORD God of Israel.

Jdg 5:6

In the days of Shamgar the son of Anath, in the days of Jael, the highways were unoccupied, and the travellers walked through byways.

5:7

The inhabitants of the villages ceased, they ceased in Israel, until that I Deborah arose, that I arose a mother in Israel.

Jdg 5:8

They chose new gods; then was war in the gates: was there a shield or spear seen among forty thousand in Israel?

Jdg 5:9

My heart is toward the governors of Israel, that offered themselves willingly among the people. Bless ye the LORD.

Jdg 5:10

Speak, ye that ride on white asses, ye that sit in judgment, and walk by the way.

Jdg 5:11

They that are delivered from the noise of archers in the places of drawing water, there shall they rehearse the righteous acts of the LORD, even the righteous acts toward the inhabitants of his villages in Israel: then shall the people of the LORD go down to the gates.

Jdg 5:12

Awake, awake, Deborah: awake, awake, utter a song: arise, Barak, and lead thy captivity captive, thou son of Abinoam.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

So if I quote the song Mary sang or Deborahs words I am spouting evil lies!?

When the religious leaders quoted Moses/ TORAH, JESUS SAID TO LIsTEN TO THEM. At the same time Jesus warned to beware of their deception. (in their lives/ teachings/ other things they said or tried to do).

If their lives were in line with TORAH< good and well. If not, beware their deception.

i.e. test everything by Scripture. remain in prayer always.

 

[JackRT]

It is well known that it could not have been a woman . That is a mute point.

Mute means silent --- you should use the phrase "moot point" meaning "a point that really did not need to be made". However it is not a moot point because it is certainly not well known. Go with God my friend.

 

[Anto9us]

'sons of the devil' like us, mindlight, would post Deborah's words, Mary's words, and Elizabeth's words to show that women have composed Scripture.

Why yeshuaslavejeff would insinuate we be ' sons of the devil ' because we quote the Bible is beyond me.

 

[Anto9us]

I am mute concerning moot points which are not in fact moot or well-known.

 

[mindlight]

When the religious leaders quoted Moses/ TORAH, JESUS SAID TO LIsTEN TO THEM. At the same time Jesus warned to beware of their deception. (in their lives/ teachings/ other things they said or tried to do).

If their lives were in line with TORAH< good and well. If not, beware their deception.

i.e. test everything by Scripture. remain in prayer always.

What concrete reasons have you for doubting that a Jewish woman who had an education in Greek and who had read the Septuagint and was well versed in Jewish tradition, a woman made in Gods image and redeemed by the grace and mercy of God through Christ could not write a book worthy of being included in scripture?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Mute means silent --- you should use the phrase "moot point" meaning "a point that really did not need to be made". However it is not a moot point because it is certainly not well known. Go with God my friend.

Thanks for the correction - it is a moot point. It is not even considered a topic in Ekklesia meetings and would never come up nor be considered possible as a topic. Thus it remains well known to be not worthy of conversation, being outside of the sphere of belief in Jesus and contrary to wisdom.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

What concrete reasons have you for doubting that a Jewish woman who had an education in Greek and who had read the Septuagint and was well versed in Jewish tradition, a woman made in Gods image and redeemed by the grace and mercy of God through Christ could not write a book worthy of being included in scripture?

Yahweh did not pick books worthy of being included in Scripture. Thus, no one could write a book worthy of being included in Scripture.

It is written in Scripture how Yahweh Breathed/ Inspired His Word, and Guarded His Word, in men He chose. Trust and Rely on Yahweh, and stop resisting Him.

 

[mindlight]

Yahweh did not pick books worthy of being included in Scripture. Thus, no one could write a book worthy of being included in Scripture.

It is written in Scripture how Yahweh Breathed/ Inspired His Word, and Guarded His Word, in men He chose. Trust and Rely on Yahweh, and stop resisting Him.

All Scripture is God breathed and useful... why couldn't a woman be the author?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

All Scripture is God breathed and useful... why couldn't a woman be the author?

Take that up with God.

 

[Anto9us]

Apollos was suggested as a possible author of Hebrews.
Priscilla, along with her husband Aquilla, once "instructed Apollos more perfectly" concerning the Holy Ghost.

Now I hope she DID write Hebrews.

 

[JackRT]

Thanks for the correction - it is a moot point. It is not even considered a topic in Ekklesia meetings and would never come up nor be considered possible as a topic. Thus it remains well known to be not worthy of conversation, being outside of the sphere of belief in Jesus and contrary to wisdom.

When you limit yourself so severely you run a very real risk of ignoring possible new truths and understandings. Wisdom is to consider all points of view.

 

[mindlight]

Apollos was suggested as a possible author of Hebrews.
Priscilla, along with her husband Aquilla, once "instructed Apollos more perfectly" concerning the Holy Ghost.

Now I hope she DID write Hebrews.

Priscilla is cited cause we have a scriptural example of her educating a heavy weight male intellect. But there may have been other women just as gifted