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Will Democrats take the house?

Will Democrats take the house today?

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    Votes: 30 69.8%
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    Votes: 13 30.2%

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Oh this is beautiful..

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Trump warns in Missouri that "if Democrats gain power on Tuesday, one of their very first projects will be a socialist takeover of health care... The Democrat plan would obliterate Obamacare."


Come on now folks, don't vote Democrat, or those evil libruls will take away your Obamacare!!
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Democrats have come to think the single payer is the right approach. But getting to it is going to be complex. I don't think you can just abolish the current system and create something completely different. Even with 100% Democratic control, I think you'll see a slow growth of Medicaid and other programs, but a continuation of the current system for most people.
 
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The goats are fasting for a few days while they figure the results out here and how they will affect the country and the old dirt road.
Just like when the former administration faced divided government. Little to nothing gets done and investigation after investigation just now with the R and D labels reversed.

I, for one, welcome the gridlock as sitting still is preferable to going in the wrong direction.

Perhaps it will even help along team LDL.
 
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A simple answer -- when Obama did the apology tour.

That was so embarrassing for the country. The goats were hiding behind dark sunglasses for 3 months.

M-Bob

Not only did Obama not do an apology tour, but I continue to be bewildered by the fact that Trump fans find Obama's comments embarrassing while finding Trump's behavior not embarrassing. Like... Did you guys all grow up in a barn with the goats?
 
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If that's what they are looking forward to it just proves they have not learned much.
Looking forward to? You might want to see if the goats have been keeping up with current events - if so, they can bring you up to speed on the last year or so.
 
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Maybe Trump will now do what he should have done in January 2017?

Find common ground.

The nation's infrastructure continues to fall apart....

And yesterday's voting issues is a national disgrace for a country such as ours. Is it too much to establish national standards for our elections? And invest the funds to make it happen?
 
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You weren't asked for a partisan opinion piece. You were asked for evidence of this supposed "apology tour". Do you have any actual evidence?

It's amazing to me that Christians - the followers of a religion built on the notion of repentance of sin - find fault in Obama's admitting that the US has committed wrongs in the past. Somehow that's embarrassing but ranting on Twitter and hurling insults at foreign leaders isn't.
 
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Democrats have come to think the single payer is the right approach. But getting to it is going to be complex. I don't think you can just abolish the current system and create something completely different. Even with 100% Democratic control, I think you'll see a slow growth of Medicaid and other programs, but a continuation of the current system for most people.

Any reform of health insurance nationwide will have to be very carefully planned, and phased in--probably over several years. The most important foundational change must be to separate health insurance from employment. That's where 56% of people are now covered. But it's not sensible. Why would you want to rent your insurance from your employer? Because that's what you're doing. Your and your family's health coverage should belong to you. But for most people, it doesn't--it belongs to your job. If you lose your job, or change jobs, you lose your coverage (with the outrageously expensive 18 month COBRA exception.) And it's an enormous burden on employers. Paying for employee health expenses raises the prices of nearly all American-made products. Which right off the bat puts us at a disadvantage vis-a-vis our global competitors operating in countries with national health plans. Our reliance on employer-provided health benefits is obsolete, dysfunctional, and just plain stupid. I know what I'd like to see as a replacement.
 
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Any reform of health insurance nationwide will have to be very carefully planned, and phased in--probably over several years. The most important foundational change must be to separate health insurance from employment. That's where 56% of people are now covered. But it's not sensible. Why would you want to rent your insurance from your employer? Because that's what you're doing. Your and your family's health coverage should belong to you. But for most people, it doesn't--it belongs to your job. If you lose your job, or change jobs, you lose your coverage (with the outrageously expensive 18 month COBRA exception.) And it's an enormous burden on employers. Paying for employee health expenses raises the prices of nearly all American-made products. Which right off the bat puts us at a disadvantage vis-a-vis our global competitors operating in countries with national health plans. Our reliance on employer-provided health benefits is obsolete, dysfunctional, and just plain stupid. I know what I'd like to see as a replacement.

The biggest problem I have with the health care debate is that Obama was the only administration to actually try to crunch actual numbers and use actual data while simultaneously acknowledging actual problems and actual mistakes...

All the GOP does is wave the invisible hand about saying "Oh, do it this way and competition magically lowers the price..." which is absolute garbage because your standard Supply vs Demand curve does NOT apply to health care. Demand for health care is literally infinite, I mean, how much are you willing to pay to keep your child alive? Unlike other goods and services you can't afford to wait 6 months or a year for the price of a treatment to go down before you buy it... There are a million other reasons why a for-profit model for health care is just flat out wrong... Sure, it is awesome when you are rich and have money, but when you are middle class or lower then no... it isn't awesome...

When the GOP took complete control and had to put up or shut up they couldn't put up. All of a sudden, they had to make good on years worth of "Obamacare sucks and we could easily do better" rhetoric and lo and behold they couldn't do it. Not only couldn't they do it, they couldn't even come close...

If the GOP held themselves to the fraction of the standard that they love to hold Democrats to, things in this country would be way better. But they don't. They rail against the Dems for XYZ but then when the GOP does XYZ it's A-okay...

I'm so disgusted
 
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Saw this posted somewhere today. If it's accurate, puts a little perspective on it.

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I thought there were so many #walkaway that the Republicans would have complete landside control for the next 20 + years in all three branches.
It's coming, along with the Trump kids taking the white house for two terms each.
 
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Saw this posted somewhere today. If it's accurate, puts a little perspective on it.

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Not that I want to deny the reality of Trump's popularity in some circles, but there were some systemic factors working in his favor. The 2018 election is the only one of those three to have occurred after the 2010 Republican Gerrymandering Bonanza and after the 2013 partial repeal of the Voting Rights Act that allowed Republicans to get more creative in their attempts to disenfranchise non-right-wing voting blocs.
 
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When did we stop being great? As far as I'm concerned, America has been great since I was born in 1968 (and '68 was a really bad year).

It is statements and proclaimations like this that make me seriously scratch my head

1968 was the middle of the Vietnam war, and you know... ummm... not sure if you've read a history book but that was an abysmal time for America.. Pretty freaking bad...

but according to you that was a great time???
 
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