Are there any believers of homeopathy here?

[Subduction Zone]

This will not be a religious debate at all, hopefully, since there is no support or opposition to homeopathy in the Bible. At least as far as I can see.

My question is can literally nothing cure you of anything?

 

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[2PhiloVoid]

This will not be a religious debate at all, hopefully, since there is no support or opposition to homeopathy in the Bible. At least as far as I can see.

My question is can literally nothing cure you of anything?

Organic, yes!; homeopathic, no!

 

[AV1611VET]

Are there any believers of homeopathy here?

They all died.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I much prefer medicine that are actually scientifically proven rather than anecdotal.

Aww, you're no fun, me too.

 

[Truthfrees]

This will not be a religious debate at all, hopefully, since there is no support or opposition to homeopathy in the Bible. At least as far as I can see.

My question is can literally nothing cure you of anything?

i have found homeopathy to be much better than medicine - i have drug reactions and had to find alternative therapies

i read an article that drug companies can NOT patent herbs so they study herbs and isolate one property/element of the many properties/elements in a herb and then try to synthesize it

the next step is to overdose the test animals to find out at what level it causes death - and then cut the level back to 50% and market it

the problem with this is that the herb has many elements that work together to accomplish much good for many issues - and when one element is isolated it produces side effects - thus the death quotient

my experience is that eating real foods/herbs/essential oils is effective and cost effective

supplements can also work but are expensive

drugs are very expensive and not claimed as cures but as symptom management

 

[Subduction Zone]

i have found homeopathy to be much better than medicine - i have drug reactions and had to find alternative therapies

i read an article that drug companies can NOT patent herbs so they study herbs and isolate one property/element of the many properties/elements in a herb and then try to synthesize it

the next step is to overdose the test animals to find out at what level it causes death - and then cut the level back to 50% and market it

the problem with this is that the herb has many elements that work together to accomplish much good for many issues - and when one element is isolated it produces side effects - thus the death quotient

my experience is that eating real foods/herbs/essential oils is effective and cost effective

supplements can also work but are expensive

drugs are very expensive and not claimed as cures but as symptom management

The problem with homeopathy is that you are taking nothing. There is no difference between a homeopathic "cure" and a sugar pill.

Let's forget about your poor arguments against medicine for now. Do you understand why homeopathy is taking literally "nothing"? (and that is a rare but correct use of the word "literally")

ETA: And it appears that you may be mistakenly conflating homeopathy with herbal cures and other questionable alternative "medicines". I do not want to deal with herbal medicine or other cures in this thread, only homeopathy.

 

[Ophiolite]

i read an article <snip>

It is always a fine idea to support ones beliefs with a suitably alligned article.

Are there any believers of homeopathy here?
I certainly believe in homeopathy. I believe it is one of the more interesting scams in play today, inasmuch as it seems sufficiently subtle that it even fools some of its practitioners!

 

[Truthfrees]

It is always a fine idea to support ones beliefs with a suitably alligned article.

Are there any believers of homeopathy here?
I certainly believe in homeopathy. I believe it is one of the more interesting scams in play today, inasmuch as it seems sufficiently subtle that it even fools some of its practitioners!

read it a long time ago - been doing homeopathy for years

i'm bad at finding articles

i read them and study them so that i can implement them and then move onto the next thing i want to learn

apologies - it is one of my shortcomings

i used to try to save all these articles on my laptop but i have hundreds of articles and no time to reread them - or even find them again

that is why i appreciate all you wonderful people that seem to be able to find stuff to post - i am envious of you - and i love to read your links to the good stuff

 

[RaymondG]

It works because it centers your thoughts and belief on the new method of healing. We think is it the pill doing the work, when it is your faith in the pill that is working. If we has the same faith in God alone.....the results would be the same. But it is easier to put trust in something we can see, touch....swallow

 

[Truthfrees]

The problem with homeopathy is that you are taking nothing. There is no difference between a homeopathic "cure" and a sugar pill.

Let's forget about your poor arguments against medicine for now. Do you understand why homeopathy is taking literally "nothing"? (and that is a rare but correct use of the word "literally")

ETA: And it appears that you may be mistakenly conflating homeopathy with herbal cures and other questionable alternative "medicines". I do not want to deal with herbal medicine or other cures in this thread, only homeopathy.

perhaps i misunderstood - what are you calling homeopathy?

i described it as food/herbs/edible essential oils

 

[Ophiolite]

read it a long time ago - been doing homeopathy for years

i'm bad at finding articles

i read them and study them so that i can implement them and then move onto the next thing i want to learn

apologies - it is one of my shortcomings

i used to try to save all these articles on my laptop but i have hundreds of articles and no time to reread them - or even find them again

that is why i appreciate all you wonderful people that seem to be able to find stuff to post - i am envious of you - and i love to read your links to the good stuff

I intended my remark as a playful one, hence the smiley emoticon at the end.

I did realise you were just offering it as an example of the many reasons for your views on the subject. I quite understand your disquiet over conventional medicines. They keep me alive, but I have a degree of suspicion over motives. Pharmaceutical companies and governments are like much else in life: a necessary evil.

 

[Subduction Zone]

perhaps i misunderstood - what are you calling homeopathy?

i described it as food/herbs/edible essential oils

That is not homeopathy. Homeopathy is the claim that the material that causes a disease can somehow cure it. To do this a portion of that substance is measured out and then diluted, that substance is diluted, and again and again. The problem with homeopathy is that one eventually dilutes the material past Avogadro's limit. And then some. It is so diluted that not one molecule of the original substance is likely to be found in any dose of homeopathic medicine:

Homeopathy - Wikipedia

What you described is definitely NOT homeopathy. In the U.S. any homeopathic cure has to have a disclaimer on it that essentially tells people that it does not cure anything. Unfortunately they can couch the terms so that the average person does not understand them, or they do not read them since they are always in the fine print.

 

[Truthfrees]

It works because it centers your thoughts and belief on the new method of healing. We think is it the pill doing the work, when it is your faith in the pill that is working. If we has the same faith in God alone.....the results would be the same. But it is easier to put trust in something we can see, touch....swallow

there is truth in this statement for sure

but God also created food for our health - so i believe if we stick to things God made rather than things man made our bodies will respond better

God did not make pesticides - or processed foods - so imo we are asking for trouble when we partake of these things

the bible records simple unprocessed foods - chemical free - ngo - etc

 

[Justatruthseeker]

This will not be a religious debate at all, hopefully, since there is no support or opposition to homeopathy in the Bible. At least as far as I can see.

My question is can literally nothing cure you of anything?

Actually that kind of is in the Bible..... (if you have the faith of a mustard seed you can move mountains, and your faith has made you well), but we will leave that be.....

The power of the mind is truly unknowable. So it isn't nothing that would cure you of anything, but the belief that you will be cured..... Of course, attaining that state of total belief is another thing altogether....

 

[Truthfrees]

That is not homeopathy. Homeopathy is the claim that the material that causes a disease can somehow cure it. To do this a portion of that substance is measured out and then diluted, that substance is diluted, and again and again. The problem with homeopathy is that one eventually dilutes the material past Avogadro's limit. And then some. It is so diluted that not one molecule of the original substance is likely to be found in any dose of homeopathic medicine:

Homeopathy - Wikipedia

What you described is definitely NOT homeopathy. In the U.S. any homeopathic cure has to have a disclaimer on it that essentially tells people that it does not cure anything. Unfortunately they can couch the terms so that the average person does not understand them, or they do not read them since they are always in the fine print.

o - alright - then i am against homeopathy -

my mistake for misunderstanding what homeopathy is

is what i am describing called naturopathy? - natural foods/herbs/edible essential oils?

 

[Justatruthseeker]

That is not homeopathy. Homeopathy is the claim that the material that causes a disease can somehow cure it. To do this a portion of that substance is measured out and then diluted, that substance is diluted, and again and again. The problem with homeopathy is that one eventually dilutes the material past Avogadro's limit. And then some. It is so diluted that not one molecule of the original substance is likely to be found in any dose of homeopathic medicine:

Homeopathy - Wikipedia

What you described is definitely NOT homeopathy. In the U.S. any homeopathic cure has to have a disclaimer on it that essentially tells people that it does not cure anything. Unfortunately they can couch the terms so that the average person does not understand them, or they do not read them since they are always in the fine print.

Just out of curiosity, would that be similar to injecting a person with the flu virus to prevent the flu?????? Or with polio to cure polio???

 

[RaymondG]

o - alright - then i am against homeopathy -

my mistake for misunderstanding what homeopathy is

is what i am describing called naturopathy? - natural foods/herbs/edible essential oils?

Ive never heard of this form myself either.....if this is truth, the flu shot would be considered Homeopathic.....and I've never heard of it as such.

 

[Truthfrees]

Ive never heard of this form myself either.....if this is truth, the flu shot would be considered Homeopathic.....and I've never heard of it as such.

yes - i am also wondering about this all too - i look forward to more info to help me understand what everyone is talking about

i love learning new stuff

 

[Subduction Zone]

o - alright - then i am against homeopathy -

my mistake for misunderstanding what homeopathy is

is what i am describing called naturopathy? - natural foods/herbs/edible essential oils?

Probably, it is a common error. Most people when they really learn what homeopathy is can see that it is nonsense. Yet there are some true believers out there and explaining that the original medicine has been diluted away to nothing they continue to think that there still is something magical to water. They think that it has a memory. Yet they forget all of the bad things that water has been in contact with in the past. Due to the water cycle some of the water that you drink today went through a sewage treatment plant sometime in the past.