Trump will NOT be impeached.

[Bobber]

Again you are missing the point as most seem to do. Trump won because of the support he received from the so-called "christian" community. How different matters might have been if that community had trusted in God, followed Gods word, and supported someone other then Trump, or Clinton. Is hat so hard for you to grasp?

You aren't God. You might want to reconsider making light of true, sincere followers of Jesus labeling them as so called Christian. I wouldn't even do that to a beloved believer who might vote for the Dems. I don't understand such dear ones as I view and consider abortion as murder but they do have a platform of wanting to help the poor, not in a manner that I feel is really scriptural but I don't deny their hearts aren't in a right place but their minds can be wrong and yes God still loves them. I'm sure if I did seek to label them a not so nice thing as you've done towards Trump supporters it wouldn't surprise me a bit to see God say with much certainty that he'll be the judge of that, not you.

 

[Old Trapper]

You aren't God. You might want to reconsider making light of true, sincere followers of Jesus labeling them as so called Christian. I wouldn't even do that to a beloved believer who might vote for the Dems. I don't understand such dear ones as I view and consider abortion as murder but they do have a platform of wanting to help the poor, not in a manner that I feel is really scriptural but I don't deny their hearts aren't in a right place but their minds can be wrong and yes God still loves them. I'm sure if I did seek to label them a not so nice thing as you've done towards Trump supporters it wouldn't surprise me a bit to see God say with much certainty that he'll be the judge of that, not you.

Well, I certainly do understand your confusion not understanding scripture, and all that. Should I list all of the scriptures pertaining to the signs of a believer, and those of the false believers? As to Democrats, and abortions, not all Dems support abortion just as not all Republicans oppose abortion your "man" Trump for example in spite of his recent "change of heart". I have never seen such a large number of people deny their faith to support one that even God would call "unclean". Anyway, you go out of your way to defend the cretin, and that is your right. If you want to talk about judgement though, imagine the judgement God will place on His people for ignoring His word.

And it is not only the abortion issue that these so-called "christians" ignore when it comes to Gods word. All of Matthew 25 comes to mind.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Don't know, don't care. They oppose abortion. Question is how strongly do you oppose abortion?

As much as any true Christian.

 

[Albion]

How does a minor party become a major party is everyone adopts your kind of ignorant attitude, and continues to vote for only the two parties?

That is true, of course, but to get there it is necessary to go through many elections when you "throw your vote away" (as the saying goes). People have a hard time doing that. And it is made tougher by the fact that the two major parties have cooperated to have the election laws make it as difficult as possible for any minor party to achieve and keep major party status.

 

[Old Trapper]

As much as any true Christian.

Then the evidence shows there are very few "true christians".

Evangelical Christian Women Still Use Planned Parenthood to Get Abortions

 

[Old Trapper]

That is true, of course, but to get there it is necessary to go through many elections when you "throw your vote away" (as the saying goes). People have a hard time doing that. And it is made tougher by the fact that the two major parties have cooperated to have the election laws make it as difficult as possible for any minor party to achieve and keep major party status.

Rush Limbaugh began preaching that message 30 years ago. How many elections have occurred since then? Where is the integrity of the "christian" right?

 

[Phil 1:21]

"Impeach!!!" seems to be the battle cry of the extremists on whatever political side is not in the white house. There's nothing new or surprising about that...just hate being what it is. What's funny is that this time around some of them didn't even wait until the inauguration to call for Trump's impeachment. It's almost as if they don't teach Civics in school anymore.

 

[Old Trapper]

"Impeach!!!" seems to be the battle cry of the extremists on whatever political side is not in the white house. There's nothing new or surprising about that...just hate being what it is. What's funny is that this time around some of them didn't even wait until the inauguration to call for Trump's impeachment. It's almost as if they don't teach Civics in school anymore.

About on a par with "Make him a one term President" as expressed by some on the right (McConnell, Limbaugh, etc.) before Obama was sworn in.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

You do realize that there is a distinction between God's efficacious/predictive will and His permissive will, don't you? The question would be why would God promote a person whose character represents that which is so contrary to "Christianity"?

The Bible is full of stories of God using people of deeply flawed, even evil character for his own ends. I suspect that Trump is God's instrument of judgement that he is using to take down America's smug, self-righteous and entitled political class. God hardly needs a Christian gentleman to do that.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Then the evidence shows there are very few "true christians".

Evangelical Christian Women Still Use Planned Parenthood to Get Abortions

"true"

 

[1stcenturylady]

"Impeach!!!" seems to be the battle cry of the extremists on whatever political side is not in the white house. There's nothing new or surprising about that...just hate being what it is. What's funny is that this time around some of them didn't even wait until the inauguration to call for Trump's impeachment. It's almost as if they don't teach Civics in school anymore.

Exactly! Sore losers.

 

[tulc]

Exactly! Sore losers.

It's always cute how Republicans/conservatives seem to have no idea what a "sore loser" is. Here's something you could do to see what it looked like: get on the search engine for CF and go back to the 8 years of President Obama's administration. Start as far back as you can, even before he took office. and then just work your way forward through the threads and posts. And after you've done that? Come and let us know when those Scriptures about praying for the President, and how God puts the leaders into office and how we should obey the leaders, miraculously reappeared in the Bible in Jan. of 2017.
tulc("sore losers"?)

 

[Shiloh Raven]

It's always cute how Republicans/conservatives seem to have no idea what a "sore loser" is. Here's something you could do to see what it looked like: get on the search engine for CF and go back to the 8 years of President Obama's administration. Start as far back as you can, even before he took office. and then just work your way forward through the threads and posts. And after you've done that? Come and let us know when those Scriptures about praying for the President, and how God puts the leaders into office and how we should obey the leaders, miraculously reappeared in the Bible in Jan. of 2017.
tulc("sore losers"?)

If I may, I would like to suggest adding "Don't judge the president!" or any post pertaining to not casting stones at the president while Obama was still the president. I honestly can't recall one single time of being told by a Christian conservative that I shouldn't judge Obama during the entire eight years he was was president. Come to think of it, I was never told that I shouldn't judge Bill Clinton either. I was never scolded for judging him for his sexual deviant behavior and his sex scandals, but I have been repeatedly scolded for judging Trump for his sexual deviant behavior and his sex scandals.

I think it's very ironic just how dismissive conservative Christians have become concerning the sexual deviant behavior and adulterous philandering of the president now that Donald Trump is in the White House. Conservative Christians were never dismissive about such immoral behavior when Bill Clinton was still the president and they never insisted we shouldn't judge the president either. But I'm rather confident that this sudden attitude of "Don't judge the President!" since Donald Trump was elected will quickly disappear into nothingness once he is no longer the president. I think this lenient attitude will be swept aside even more quickly if the next president just happens to be another liberal.

 

[1stcenturylady]

It's always cute how Republicans/conservatives seem to have no idea what a "sore loser" is. Here's something you could do to see what it looked like: get on the search engine for CF and go back to the 8 years of President Obama's administration. Start as far back as you can, even before he took office. and then just work your way forward through the threads and posts. And after you've done that? Come and let us know when those Scriptures about praying for the President, and how God puts the leaders into office and how we should obey the leaders, miraculously reappeared in the Bible in Jan. of 2017.
tulc("sore losers"?)

So you were an Obama fan?

 

[tulc]

So you were an Obama fan?

Still am. Before he was President he was my Senator, I voted for him then, I voted for him twice for President. He's only one of two people (my former alderwoman is the other) I've never regretted voting for.
tulc(didn't always agree with him, but never regretted voting for him)

 

[tulc]

Make that three, I don't regret voting for President Nixon either. He was badly flawed but I think he was one of the better foreign policy Presidents we've had.
tulc(suspects no one saw that coming)

 

[Jamsie]

The Bible is full of stories of God using people of deeply flawed, even evil character for his own ends. I suspect that Trump is God's instrument of judgement that he is using to take down America's smug, self-righteous and entitled political class. God hardly needs a Christian gentleman to do that.

True, but it is a distinction with God permitting as opposed to "ordaining". I would note that the political malaise is a reflection of "We the People" since we voted, and continue, to put them in office. So clearly the "smug, self-righteous, entitled political class" represents us as a people. Trump is a mirror to ourselves of exactly how far we've betrayed what was and is a noble experiment.

 

[Phil 1:21]

Anyway, you go out of your way to defend the cretin, and that is your right. If you want to talk about judgement though, imagine the judgement God will place on His people for ignoring His word.

Like Matthew 5:43-48?

Exactly! Sore losers.

I truly am worried about people who carry that much hatred around with them, especially the ones now defending MS-13. Theirs must be an very unpleasant existence. We should all pray for them.

 

[Old Trapper]

Like Matthew 5:43-48?

Matthew 5: 13-19

"Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

Or Romans 1: 21-28

"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"

I truly am worried about people who carry that much hatred around with them, especially the ones now defending MS-13. Theirs must be an very unpleasant existence. We should all pray for them.

Who is defending MS-13?

 

[Phil 1:21]

Matthew 5: 13-19

"Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

Or Romans 1: 21-28

"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"



Who is defending MS-13?

So just those verses then? None of that inconvenient "love your neighbor" stuff? Good to know.