Net Neutrality

[Trogdor the Burninator]

Net nuetrality does treat every bit of data equally but it does not say that some companies are hogging internet bandwidth. This allows the largest internet companies to avoid paying surcharges or have their traffic slowed. Imagine if we had electricty as the internet, anyone could use it and pay the same price. Those who use just a little electricity are paying the same price as those that use alot.

Not correct. Electricity doesn't discriminate between use, the same as internet bandwidth and doanload limits.

If we paid for electricity under an anti-neutrality scenario, you could end up paying more for using power to run your air conditioner than your fridge, or have a scenario where an appliance manufacturer does a deal with the power company to charge their users less for using the same power as those who use other brands.

 

[alsughasoughaiuyfygh]

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[drjean]

Maybe the idea of the minimum is that people actually use it. If people don't use enough water, the pipes that carry the sewage get clogged and the city has to flush them. This often happens in germany where, for some insane reason, people are very diligent with using as little water as possible. I think many germans think that any water they don't use is shipped off to africa or something..

I seriously doubt that here...since they require all new homes built to have the low flush toilets and saver showers etc.... which I have anyway but it's just me (and the dog) right now....soon off the grid!

 

[Brent W]

Not correct. Electricity doesn't discriminate between use, the same as internet bandwidth and doanload limits.

If we paid for electricity under an anti-neutrality scenario, you could end up paying more for using power to run your air conditioner than your fridge, or have a scenario where an appliance manufacturer does a deal with the power company to charge their users less for using the same power as those who use other brands.

You get it.

 

[PeachyKeane]

I am against net nuetrality. It's moniker is like the "Affordable Care Act" very misleading. Net nuetrality favors the biggest tech corporations. About half the traffic of U.S. use is Netflix and Youtube. If you consume bandwidth, you shoud pay extra or be throttled back on speed.

Why? I'm paying my internet provider for bandwidth. I'm the one consuming bandwidth by using Google.

There should be no free lunch for big consumers of bandwidth.

No free lunch? Internet Providers sell their product to me, not Google. Google would be paying for data storage and hosting (both of which I'm sure they provide themselves).

I own several websites. I shouldn't have to pay AT&T for the bandwidth other people use to access my site. That would be like a grocery store charging me for a soda, and then charging Pepsi again for the privilege of charging me for a soda.

Currently, you are subsiziding the biggest users, including porn I might add which is another huge bandwidth recipient. It is too bad that the Christian forum has the large banner for being against this issue with all the most liberal companies that exist.

Why is that a problem?

 

[Erik Nelson]

On my Windows Phone, Net Neutrality flagged this website, With a giant red circle in the lower right hand corner. Inquiring of me whether I wanted to report this website.

 

[iluvatar5150]

On my Windows Phone, Net Neutrality flagged this website, With a giant red circle in the lower right hand corner. Inquiring of me whether I wanted to report this website.

That’s not what it said.

 

[nChrist]

The poll on this thread indicates that almost 80% who answered the poll understand what net neutrality is.

 

[pat34lee]

I had found flat earthers and geocentrics here. This place is definitely not an accurate depiction of the real world.

There are flat earthers and geocentrics everywhere.
Most just don't bother to advertise it.

 

[super animator]

There are flat earthers and geocentrics everywhere.
Most just don't bother to advertise it.

Not my point.

 

[Stellar Vision]

On my Windows Phone, Net Neutrality flagged this website, With a giant red circle in the lower right hand corner. Inquiring of me whether I wanted to report this website.

Um no, the owner of the forums probably got the graphic from Fight for the Future to embed into this site because he or she is also concerned that we're about to lose net neutrality protections.

 

[trunks2k]

On my Windows Phone, Net Neutrality flagged this website, With a giant red circle in the lower right hand corner. Inquiring of me whether I wanted to report this website.

The giant red circle isn't asking if you want to report this website. It's asking you to support net neutrality. Before that red circle, when you came to this site, you got a full page splash ad asking you to support net neutrality.

Whoever owns and runs this site supports net neutrality.

 

[Erik Nelson]

The giant red circle isn't asking if you want to report this website. It's asking you to support net neutrality. Before that red circle, when you came to this site, you got a full page splash ad asking you to support net neutrality.

Whoever owns and runs this site supports net neutrality.

thanks for clarifying that much obliged

 

[TLK Valentine]

If it's so great, why are only the Democrats for it?
What makes it bad for Republicans?

Because the companies that pay for Republicans are not for it.
Because the democrats are for it.

There you go -- greed and spite. Pick one.

 

[Richard T]

During times of high usage in electricity or water, there are customers that are throttled back. Car wash businesses have to shut down, large plants sometimes close during peak times to avoid brownouts. Electric companies also discriminate on pricing, Commercial users have different rates than residential users in many locations.

 

[Brent W]

During times of high usage in electricity or water, there are customers that are throttled back. Car wash businesses have to shut down, large plants sometimes close during peak times to avoid brownouts. Electric companies also discriminate on pricing, Commercial users have different rates than residential users in many locations.

You are still under the impression that there is a bandwidth problem. There isn't.

 

[Richard T]

Not correct. Electricity doesn't discriminate between use, the same as internet bandwidth and doanload limits.

If we paid for electricity under an anti-neutrality scenario, you could end up paying more for using power to run your air conditioner than your fridge, or have a scenario where an appliance manufacturer does a deal with the power company to charge their users less for using the same power as those who use other brands.

Utilities do offer discounts for green appliances, usually in the form of a rebate. Lots of pricing discrimination in electric usage.

 

[Richard T]

You are still under the impression that there is a bandwidth problem. There isn't.

The Bandwidth Bottleneck That Is Throttling the Internet

 

[Brent W]

The Bandwidth Bottleneck That Is Throttling the Internet

What does that article prove? All it says is this:

• Our infrastructure is terrible and has been terrible and we are catching up
• We are catching up. Federal Government, States and companies are investing heavily in infrastructure and it has paid off.
  Taken from your article:
  

  Today, providers can often meet rising demand simply by starting to use some of this dark fibre.

• The article points out that mobile is now the one that is needing to invest in infrastructure. As a new technology, this is normal.
• Your article comes up with great ways to solve the issue of a new technology expanding. Not a single one of those suggestions was to discriminate against one piece of data vs another.

Thank you for linking to that nearly 2 year old article. It truly shows how the Anti-Net Neutrality is nothing more than the ISPs wishing to be granted unlimited rights to discriminate against data.

There is no bandwidth issue that can not be overcome by better technology and better investment into the future.

Anti-Net Neutrality is an attack on the internet and its freedom to share, create and view data with no discrimination.

 

[Richard T]

Yes two years can be a lifetime in the tech world. However, many people living rural know there is a bottleneck of bandwidth in their area. Here is an article describing how getting rid of net neutrality can help those in rural areas. What Net Neutrality Could Mean For Slow Internet In Kansas
For a better informative article though, the WSJ editorial today 5/15, favors getting rid of net neutrality. "The real issue isn’t if you’ll be free to surf the web but whether the federal government should dictate what rates providers can set for services. The FCC’s Mr. Pai is rolling back the Obama rules, which means restoring the status quo of a mere few years ago."