Where two or three are gathered.

[W2L]

Have you ever looked at the context of that verse?

Yes but the context cannot directly address my question.

 

[W2L]

On one hand we have the Church (Body of Christ) present in all authentic Christians. On the other the Holy Spirit embodies each person.

I agree. Thank you.

 

[W2L]

Of course he is here, he is omnipresent, everywhere at once. Whether He is active/interactive is another matter. However, you specifically mentioned gathered in His name, that would be in the name of Jesus and I don't know about you all but I can feel His presence and a degree of sense of His power just writing that name. It's my belief that writing His name would get His attention, it's part of why I write it so often. He certainly hears our prayers and knows our thoughts, we can't write a prayer without Him knowing it.. And I can tell you this, if He did not want me here, he would make that known to me in some way, if only through the power of discernment.

Thank you. I also sense his presence as i fellowship here.

 

[W2L]

Depends on what broadband or internet service he is using in Heaven...

lol. Thank you.

 

[W2L]

Seriously though, we are gathered in spirit here on this forum. No reason to believe he is not among us as well. Just because he is present doesn't automatically mean our conversations will be seasoned with salt though...

Yes, we can choose to follow the spirit or not. I agree.

 

[W2L]

Being gathered in his name isn't just invoking his name. It requires that that those invoking him be sincere in seeking truth and in dispensing truth and not harboring wordly attitudes. If not then the gathering will grieve the holy spirit.

Good points, thank you

 

[Hammster]

I am not linking them. They appear as they are in the bible. If you have any objection to their application to the subject at hand then please explain.




What does it mean to grieve / quench the Holy Spirit?

No answered. Okay.

 

[Dave G.]

Thank you. I also sense his presence as i fellowship here.

Amazing things can happen in fellowship ! Just the building up alone is worth the price of admission so to speak.

 

[Hammster]

Yes but the context cannot directly address my question.

Well, it should. Without context, you can make it mean whatever you want.

 

[Radrook]

No answered. Okay.

I don't understand exactly how what I said is theologically flawed as you are claiming. An explanation would be appreciated..

 

[Hammster]

I don't understand exactly how what I said is theologically flawed as you are claiming. An explanation would be appreciated..

You took two verses and claimed they supported each other. That's not how exegesis works. That's eisegesis.

 

[Dave G.]

Being gathered in his name isn't just invoking his name. It requires that that those invoking him be sincere in seeking truth and in dispensing truth and not harboring wordly attitudes. If not then the gathering will grieve the holy spirit.

Yes in general assembly. But suppose one is being witnessed to for salvation, they obviously would very much be in the world but I think the Holy Spirit would be all in favor of that meeting. And I say that because I know when I grieve the Holy Spirit, it manifests itself as anxiety in me, as does sin. And I have to get right with God over it. But in witnessing, I always call on His name and I'm always feeling free as a bird after.

I know you could say that that is just experiential but I've been at this a while and mostly trust my experiences at this point. Not always but mostly. I don't know that we should set a rule for all situations and I really don't know if God has. If He has I need to know about it.

 

[Radrook]

You took two verses and claimed they supported each other. That's not how exegesis works. That's eisegesis.

Word Origin
noun, plural eisegeses
[ahy-si-jee-seez]

1. an interpretation, especially of Scripture, that expresses the interpreter's own ideas, bias, or the like, rather than the meaning of the text.
the definition of eisegesis

Please explain exactly how this applies to what I posted via demonstrating the impossibility of its application to the subject.

 

[GirdYourLoins]

There are some scriptures which are arguably fulfilled by the internet like being able topreach the gospelto the ends of the earth. But I dont think this verse is. We are not meeting together, we are not gathered together in one place, we are merely communicating with each other over a long distance. Its not the same. This is one of the reasons I think it is good to be part of a church, it is following the instruction of Jesus and the Word.

How can Jesus be in the midst of us when we are not together? Some people tend to use the internet and TV as an alternative to going to church and it does not carry the same benefits.

Hebrews 10:25. Do you think the internet is meeting/assembling/gathering together which are words different versions use? I would say a resounding "No" and its an excuse for people to avoid fulfilling Jesus instructions to us.

 

[W2L]

Well, it should. Without context, you can make it mean whatever you want.

No, im going by what others say, and on my own experience as well. What do you say? You never answered the question.

 

[W2L]

Amazing things can happen in fellowship ! Just the building up alone is worth the price of admission so to speak.

i agree.

 

[Hammster]

Please explain exactly how this applies to what I posted via demonstrating the impossibility of its application to the subject.

Apparently, I cannot. If you think that you can link two verses together with no regard to either context, I doubt I'll be able to tell you anything that you'll agree with.

 

[Hammster]

No, im going by what others say, and on my own experience as well. What do you say? You never answered the question.

I did. I tried to get you to look at the context (church discipline), but you've chosen not to.

 

[W2L]

There are some scriptures which are arguably fulfilled by the internet like being able topreach the gospelto the ends of the earth. But I dont think this verse is. We are not meeting together, we are not gathered together in one place, we are merely communicating with each other over a long distance. Its not the same. This is one of the reasons I think it is good to be part of a church, it is following the instruction of Jesus and the Word.

How can Jesus be in the midst of us when we are not together? Some people tend to use the internet and TV as an alternative to going to church and it does not carry the same benefits.

Hebrews 10:25. Do you think the internet is meeting/assembling/gathering together which are words different versions use? I would say a resounding "No" and its an excuse for people to avoid fulfilling Jesus instructions to us.

Well, if the Lord isnt present in this online fellowship, where is He? Is God not able to share his spirit with us anywhere? Is the Lord onmly among us when we are face to face? We dont see the Lord face to face do we? Yet he is among us.

 

[W2L]

I did. I tried to get you to look at the context (church discipline), but you've chosen not to.

I looked at the context. However computers were not invented in Jesus time on earth. Many of us here say God is with us online, and i agree. I believe that you may feel like the Church gatherings will be threatened in some way if we admit that God is with us online. Church attendance will not be threatened, dont worry about that.