Donald Trump accuses Obama of orchestrating protests and leaks against him

[Vylo]

Get used to it. Obama can no wrong. The Trump camp can do no right. I mean, they can't even sit on couches correctly!

Obama can do a lot of wrong, perhaps you missed where he never corrected and continued many civil rights problems from Ws era. Civil forfeiture and routes along due process are still alive and well.

 

[Desk trauma]

A man who runs an organization of 30,000 "community organizers" is a bit different than someone just disagreeing with Trump.

No, it's really not. He is useing the resources that he has to advocate for the policy that he feels is best. Just like every other individual who is politically active is doing be they the Koch brothers, Bill Gates or Jim who mucks out the stable.

 

[Postvieww]

No.

But, they never are... that's why more people are reconciling that, yes, presidents and leaders are chosen for us, not by us.

Remember, five years ago Trump couldn't even make it to the debates. He was a joke - especially to the people who allegedly see him as a champion of the people.

That last part is what makes this extremely scary. The very people that do, and should hate a business oligarch wannabe that exploits other people for profit famously supported him, and did tremendous help to influence him as the people''s choice.

In other words, the hurting, struggling and nearly destitute middle and lower middle (and lower) classes believed that a billionaire businessman who has a history of shady practices and nontransparency was the best option for them.

And, they begged for him.

It isn't that there isn't any better option, it is that we have been programmed to repeat the errors of history - and we have been taught to desire to repeat history even through choosing to ignore the painfully obvious. Really, no candidate is ever good. But, blue collar middle America voting in Trump? Wow...

Have you considered the possibility that the creator of the universe put Trump in office for His purposes?



Daniel 2:19 Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven.

20 Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his

21 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

 

[Desk trauma]

Finally some truth on this thread.

Poe fatality.

 

[KCfromNC]

I think: Gays, communist and Muslims would be more accurate.

Oh, I forgot "founder of ISIS" as well - if we're going all-in on Trump's lies, can't leave any of them out.

 

[Ygrene Imref]

Have you considered the possibility that the creator of the universe put Trump in office for His purposes?



Daniel 2:19 Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven.

20 Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his

21 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

No offense, brother or sister, but we have to stop blaming God for our actions. As "little gods," we have to stand on our own faults. People allegedly elected Trump - just like people play and determine the outcome football game.

Nothing, however, happens without God's permission, but that doesn't implicate Him in passively creating and appointing human ideas of exceptionalism.

But, even if God did put Trump in office, that by no means means that God put him in office as a blessing, or good thing. In fact, usually when God appoints a leader in office, it is a judgment on Israel - or, in this case the Church (who doesn't know their identity.)

We know the type of people God would put in office; He has already told us what kind of men rich people are - and how "close" to heaven they are.

To say God put Donald Trump into office solely, or even partly for good is also highly unverified: both from a prophetic and spiritual conviction point. It just isn't right, or fair, to God.

 

[Ygrene Imref]

Also, even if God put Trump in office - let's painfully assume this - then it still doesn't reconcile the mentality of US - and why we "got what we got":

The very people that do, and should hate a business oligarch wannabe that exploits other people for profit famously supported him, and did tremendous help to influence him as the people''s choice.


So, those people are also responsible for whatever "blessings," or "judgment" they begged for.

Christians aren't even supposed to be in this world anyway; way back in the day of Saul us humans weren't satisfied with God only. So, we "get what we begged for" - creatures ruling creatures.

 

[Postvieww]

No offense, brother or sister, but we have to stop blaming God for our actions. As "little gods," we have to stand on our own faults. People allegedly elected Trump - just like people play and determine the outcome football game.

Nothing, however, happens without God's permission, but that doesn't implicate Him in passively creating and appointing human ideas of exceptionalism.

But, even if God did put Trump in office, that by no means means that God put him in office as a blessing, or good thing. In fact, usually when God appoints a leader in office, it is a judgment on Israel - or, in this case the Church (who doesn't know their identity.)

We know the type of people God would put in office; He has already told us what kind of men rich people are - and how "close" to heaven they are.

To say God put Donald Trump into office solely, or even partly for good is also highly unverified: both from a prophetic and spiritual conviction point. It just isn't right, or fair, to God.

No disrespect to you either, but I challenge you to listen to the two short videos, note the dates and details given then you may want to consider what I pointed out from the book of Daniel.

We all believe what we wish; I agree God can use leaders for judgment or blessing. You just as well as I have a predetermined idea of what the outcome should have been, but we are not in charge.

 

[Desk trauma]

Have you considered the possibility that the creator of the universe put Trump in office for His purposes?

If I thought there was such a thing I would not wish to insult it so.

 

[USincognito]

There's no rule. However there was a precedent which Obama benefited from as Bush stayed silent while he trashed our rights.

You're right. I'm all for the Christian Coalition. I also have no issue with Obama's legion of communists attempting to disrupt Trump at every turn.

I just wish we'd all be honest about what's happening here.

Ummm, o.k.

 

[USincognito]

How would you react if someone used a colorness to refer to the last office holder?

Was the last office holder born that color?

 

[Ygrene Imref]

No disrespect to you either, but I challenge you to listen to the two short videos, note the dates and details given then you may want to consider what I pointed out from the book of Daniel.

We all believe what we wish; I agree God can use leaders for judgment or blessing. You just as well as I have a predetermined idea of what the outcome should have been, but we are not in charge.

I will watch the videos.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

- Donald Trump accuses Obama of orchestrating protests and leaks against him

His Orangeness sure has a propensity for coming up with conspiracy theories. Or at least latching onto them.

He did all that while learning to water ski?.....

Wow! Obama's even cooler than I thought!

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Is it that much of a stretch given what Obama is doing two miles from the White House? http://nypost.com/2017/02/11/how-obama-is-scheming-to-sabotage-trumps-presidency/

8 years of accusing the man of wanting to destroy the country wasn't enough?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Are you denying that the organization exists?

Or that Obama is planning on staying active in politics over the next four years?

Both?

I hope he could stay active in politics for the next 40 years.

 

[Desk trauma]

I hope he could stay active in politics for the next 40 years.

Entirely possible.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Entirely possible.

Not that I expect him to but he really could.

 

[Desk trauma]

Not that I expect him to but he really could.

Assuming he has similar longevity as others who held the office.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

A man who runs an organization of 30,000 "community organizers" is a bit different than someone just disagreeing with Trump.

Is it at all unsettling that over half the country and most of the world disagrees with Trump?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

How would you react if someone used a colorness to refer to the last office holder?

You think no one has?