The Nano Robots and Machines Inside You,

[Loudmouth]

That's just like saying that all SETI scientist should be swayed or are misguided because one inept SETI scientist failed to provide the right reasons for considering a certain code from space as evidence of intelligence.

SETI scientists aren't looking for a code from space. They are looking for a narrow spike of energy in the microwave region of the EM spectrum.

 

[Heissonear]

The argument from design, also known as the teleological argument, is an argument for the existence of God (or life-engineering aliens) that may be summarized as follows: When I see a complex object such as a watch, I know it has been designed: therefore, when I see a complex object such as a tiger, I should infer that it has been designed. This act of comparing two objects and drawing similar conclusions based on similarities (while ignoring important differences) is a prime example of a false analogy.

You are founded on assuptions, by stating life happened naturally by physio-chemical processes in time past. From there you build further assuptions, but present many as facts. Who are you kidding, Chap? DNA did not come about through natural processes. So, you assume so!

 

[Speedwell]

DNA did not come about through natural processes.

How do you know that?

 

[Radrook]

SETI scientists aren't looking for a code from space. They are looking for a narrow spike of energy in the microwave region of the EM spectrum.

In other words, you are denying that if they receive a coded message they would assume intelligence?
Really? Why?

BTW
Have you seen the film Contact?

 

[Speedwell]

In other words, you are denying that if they receive a coded message they would assume intelligence?
Really? Why?

BTW
Have you seen the film Contact?

They are looking for a narrow-band microwave signal because as far as we know, narrow-band signals are only produced for the purpose of transmitting messages and are not produced by natural emitters of EM radiation.

 

[KCfromNC]

I think you mean cdesign proponentsists.

They have to keep changing their names every few years as they keep losing in court. It is hard to keep up.

 

[Subduction Zone]

In other words, you are denying that if they receive a coded message they would assume intelligence?
Really? Why?

BTW
Have you seen the film Contact?

Basing your science knowledge upon popular films is never a good idea. You might base your understanding about the dangers of space debris from "Gravity". Now they did get some points right, but they got so many so horribly wrong that I could not enjoy that film at all.

 

[Loudmouth]

In other words, you are denying that if they receive a coded message they would assume intelligence?

I am telling you what they are looking for.

BTW
Have you seen the film Contact?

You do know that it is a work of fiction, right?

When you start getting your science from fictional movies . . .

 

[Radrook]

I am telling you what they are looking for.



You do know that it is a work of fiction, right?

When you start getting your science from fictional movies . . .

You did not answer my question for obvious reasons.
I know it's a work of fiction. But it is relevant to the discussion as you well are reluctantly aware.

 

[KCfromNC]

You did not answer my question for obvious reasons.

Unless you can find a SETI researcher who thinks DNA is a message from aliens I think you have your answer already.

I know it's a work of fiction. But it is relevant to the discussion as you well are reluctantly aware.

No, I'm not aware. Please explain what you're getting at.

 

[Loudmouth]

You did not answer my question for obvious reasons.

Is there a radio signal being broadcast by bacteria with a coded message in it?

 

[Radrook]

Is there a radio signal being broadcast by bacteria with a coded message in it?

That is totally irrelevant.
The similarity is in the coding of information indicating mind and not in the transmission of radio signals.

 

[KCfromNC]

That is totally irrelevant.
The similarity is in the coding of information indicating mind and not in the transmission of radio signals.

I'll ask again - do any actual SETI researchers agree with you, or do we have to ignore yet another field of science for to believe you?

 

[Radrook]

Unless you can find a SETI researcher who thinks DNA is a message from aliens I think you have your answer already.


No, I'm not aware. Please explain what you're getting at.

You are aware that the film though fiction is relevant to our discussion.
We don't need SETI permission to think rationally. If they choose to think inconsistently then it is their flaw.

 

[KCfromNC]

You are aware that the film though fiction is relevant to our discussion.

Your mind reading skills need some work.

We don't need SETI permission to think rationally.

Then it must be something else which is stopping you. But that still doesn't answer the question - what is your point?

 

[bhsmte]

Your mind reading skills need some work.



Then it must be something else which is stopping you. But that still doesn't answer the question - what is your point?

I always get a kick, when folks resort to mind reading.

 

[Radrook]

I'll ask again - do any actual SETI researchers agree with you, or do we have to ignore yet another field of science for to believe you?

I never claimed that the SETI scientists agree. I lumped them together with all the rest of the atheist scientists who suddenly suspend their ability to see and resort to selective blindness and inconsistency of policy whenever anything indicates an ID in nature.

 

[KCfromNC]

I never claimed that the SETI scientists agree. I lumped them together with all the rest of the atheist scientists who suddenly suspend their ability to see and resort to selective blindness and inconsistency of policy whenever anything indicates an ID in nature.

Have you ever stopped to think of other reasons why experts in many different scientific fields all seem to have a problem with ID? Is the only possible conclusion is that every single one of them is mentally deficient and wouldn't know it unless you were here to set them straight?

 

[Loudmouth]

That is totally irrelevant.

It is completely relevant. Scientists are saying that a modulated radio signal is evidence of an intelligence. You are claiming that the SETI type of evidence is found in life. So where is it?

The similarity is in the coding of information indicating mind and not in the transmission of radio signals.

What is that similarity?

 

[Radrook]

It is completely relevant. Scientists are saying that a modulated radio signal is evidence of an intelligence. You are claiming that the SETI type of evidence is found in life. So where is it?



What is that similarity?

Coded information.
As I said, SETI would readily acknowledge coded information as being from a mind.