101 Scientific Facts: The Bible-Creationism is accurate and true.

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This has been falsified and some people include it in the hall of shame. If your going to try to present evidence then you should avoided evidence that has been shown to be wrong. Haeckel's Embryos simple could not stand up to scrutiny.

No, it hasn't been falsified. Haeckel embellished his drawings, but the idea was sound. Indeed, they still teach the idea in school using PICTURES instead of drawings of the embryos.
 
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They used Haeckel's "embellished" drawing as evidence. Did you click on the link?

Don't need to click the link, I'm quite familiar with the claim.

Now they use actual PICTURES as evidence.
 
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The only way someone in American can be scientifically illiterate is if they do not have a high school degree. Because you are required to be tested in science in order to get your degree. These tests are a big deal for the school system and they try to get as high of scores as they can in comparison to the scores other schools get in other communities.

That has absolutely no bearing on what I said to Kenny'sID.

This has been falsified and some people include it in the hall of shame. If your going to try to present evidence then you should avoided evidence that has been shown to be wrong. Haeckel's Embryos simple could not stand up to scrutiny.

Haeckel's Embyro's has not been proven wrong. He was incorrect about a few small things, but the actual whole idea does stand up to scrutiny.
 
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That is the statement from that web site. The Bible uses the word Living Water.

All the website says is, 'for centuries people naively washed in standing water'. It doesn't present any evidence for this assertion; that was what I was asking for.

But what the web site means is that you should not use stagnate water. Do you really need me to explain why we should not wash out clothing in stagnate water?

First, the adjective is 'stagnant'; 'stagnate' is a verb meaning 'to become stagnant'. Second, no, I don't need you, or the Bible, to explain why we should not wash our clothing in stagnant water.

But this does not answer my original question. What evidence is there that for centuries people naively washed their clothes in standing water? By the way, the Bible doesn't explain why one should use running water to wash.
Water needs fresh water in and a place where water drains off. The Dead Sea is dead because there is no supply of fresh water. The water then becomes stagnate.

In fact there is a supply of fresh water to the Dead Sea; it is the River Jordan. The problem is that there is no outlet from the Dead Sea; the only loss of water is by evaporation, so the salts brought into the Dead Sea by the River Jordan have accumulated until its water is so saline that it will not support life.
 
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But this does not answer my original question. What evidence is there that for centuries people naively washed their clothes in standing water? By the way, the Bible doesn't explain why one should use running water to wash.
The word here is "living" water. Lev 15:13b "wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean." Jesus talks about: " the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life." Esp we are in the book of Leviticus. This is a book of instruction for those who want to enter into the priesthood. So there is a lot of spiritual meaning in this in addition to what Science can confirm about the water we need to use to wash our clothing (and spiritual water to cleanse or flesh).


02416 // yx // chay // khah'-ee //

from 02421 ; TWOT - 644a

AV - live 197, life 144, beast 76, alive 31, creature 15, running 7,
living thing 6, raw 6, misc 19; 501

adj
1) living, alive
1a) green (of vegetation)
1b) flowing, fresh (of water)
1c) lively, active (of man)
1d) reviving (of the springtime)

n m
2) relatives
3) life (abstract emphatic)
3a) life
3b) sustenance, maintenance

n f
4) living thing, animal
4a) animal
4b) life
4c) appetite
4d) revival, renewal
5) community
 
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I seldom use creationists sites but this link does offer Scientific Evidence to show the Bible is accurate and true. So the atheists can try to go through and falsify all 101 points or they can come up with evidence to falsify the Bible. For now the score is 101 to 0 and the ball is in the court of the atheists to offer evidence that the Bible is not 100% accurate and true. We know that God watches over His Word to Perform and to do what He says He is going to do. Jeremiah 1:12 We know that God's Word does not fail and that God always accomplishes His plan and purpose.

"God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" Num23:19

"So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." Isa 55:11

55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

The BLUE words are the Hebrew words that we find in our Bible. So there are only 9 words in this verse in the Hebrew Bible. Nine is the last of the digits, and thus marks the end; and is significant of the conclusion of a matter.

http://www.eternal-productions.org/101science.html

Let's look at numbers 1 and 7.
1. 'The earth free-floats in space (Job 26:7), affected only by gravity. While other sources declared the earth sat on the back of an elephant or turtle, or was held up by Atlas, the Bible alone states what we now know to be true - "He hangs the earth on nothing".

Later in the same chapter (verse 11), it speaks of 'the pillars of heaven'. In Job 37:18, Elihu asks, 'Can you beat out the vault of the skies, as he does, hard as a mirror of cast metal?', and in Job 38:6, God asks, 'On what do [the earth's] supporting pillars rest? Who set its corner-stone in place?' This is fine poetry, but it is not scientifically accurate.

It is more interesting that at the same time that the book of Job was written (6th century BC), Pythagorean and Babylonian speculations about the shape and location of the earth were developing that were very similar to the interpretation that your website puts on Job 26:7. According to Christine Garwood, in Flat Earth: The History of an Infamous Idea (pages 18-20), Pythagoras (582-500 BC) and his followers 'believed that the earth was a globe freely floating in space because the sphere was the perfect shape.' Perhaps the author of Job picked up the same ideas as Pythagoras at about the same time.
7. There are mountains on the bottom of the ocean floor (Jonah 2:5-6). Only in the last century have we discovered that there are towering mountains and deep trenches in the depths of the sea.

The book of Jonah was written in the 5th or 4th centuries BC, around the time of the wars between the Persian and Greek empires. If you look at a map of the Aegean Sea, which lies between these two great empires, you will see that it is dotted with islands, some of which continue the lines of the mountain ranges on the mainland. Sailors long before Jonah's time knew about these islands, and about the dangerous reefs that only just broke the surface of the sea. It would not require much imagination for these seafarers to guess that besides these visible islands and reefs there were other submarine mountains that did not reach the surface of the sea.

The inhabitants of Greece and Asia Minor, which have very few extensive plains, may have found it difficult to imagine a landscape that was not mountainous. It would be natural for them to think of the sea-floor as being as mountainous as the surrounding land masses, and as the islands that dotted the sea. Perhaps this is the source of Jonah's idea of submarine mountains.

There are more serious objections to this website, and to other websites of the same sort.

First, nobody ever deduced the scientific facts adduced by the website by reading the Bible. The spherical shape of the Earth, submarine mountains and springs, the vital importance of blood, the laws of thermodynamics, the existence of proteins and DNA, etc. were discovered by scientists through observations and experiments, not from their reading of the Bible. It is only as a result of the work of these scientists that we understand what these Biblical verses really mean. (The same objection applies to the prophecies of Nostradamus; they can only be understood after the predicted events have actually happened.)

Second, why should God mention such scientific facts at all? The Bible always treats human learning and secular science as things to be avoided, as distractions from the main business of repenting one's sins and dedicating one's life to God.

Third, these 'scientific facts in the Bible' are put forward in isolation, without any context. The submarine mountains are not connected with earthquakes or volcanoes, or with the other phenomena of plate tectonics. The fact that blood is necessary to life is simply stated, without any explanation of why it is necessary. The first law of thermodynamics is put forward in isolation, without any explanation of its connection with the second and third laws, or with statistical mechanics and kinetic theory. These facts in isolation are not much more useful as science than a few thousand bricks, with water and gas pipes and electric wires, plugs etc. scattered over a five-acre field would be as a place to live.
 
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The word here is "living" water. Lev 15:13b "wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean." Jesus talks about: " the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life." Esp we are in the book of Leviticus. This is a book of instruction for those who want to enter into the priesthood. So there is a lot of spiritual meaning in this in addition to what Science can confirm about the water we need to use to wash our clothing (and spiritual water to cleanse or flesh).


02416 // yx // chay // khah'-ee //

from 02421 ; TWOT - 644a

AV - live 197, life 144, beast 76, alive 31, creature 15, running 7,
living thing 6, raw 6, misc 19; 501

adj
1) living, alive
1a) green (of vegetation)
1b) flowing, fresh (of water)
1c) lively, active (of man)
1d) reviving (of the springtime)

n m
2) relatives
3) life (abstract emphatic)
3a) life
3b) sustenance, maintenance

n f
4) living thing, animal
4a) animal
4b) life
4c) appetite
4d) revival, renewal
5) community

You are getting off the point. Your link is enumerating 'scientific facts in the Bible', and describing the importance of washing in running rather than stagnant water, not explaining the spiritual meaning of the book of Leviticus.
 
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You are getting off the point. Your link is enumerating 'scientific facts in the Bible', and describing the importance of washing in running rather than stagnant water, not explaining the spiritual meaning of the book of Leviticus.
What is the use if people are going to be ignorant of the point and purpose? If you do not want to believe then don't beleive. But at least make an attempt to understand just what it is that you do not accept, endorse or believe in. I get a little tired of dealing with strawmen arguments.

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It is more interesting that at the same time that the book of Job was written (6th century BC), Pythagorean and Babylonian speculations about the shape and location of the earth were developing that were very similar to the interpretation that your website puts on Job 26:7. According to Christine Garwood, in Flat Earth: The History of an Infamous Idea (pages 18-20), Pythagoras (582-500 BC) and his followers 'believed that the earth was a globe freely floating in space because the sphere was the perfect shape.' Perhaps the author of Job picked up the same ideas as Pythagoras at about the same time.
Moses and Abraham were highly educated and trained. The city of Ur at the time Abraham lived there had an extremely advanced school system. I never though about how well educated Job was because we do not know that much about him. So what your saying is interesting. He had a lot of kids so it is good that he was able to provide them with a top rated education in his time and day.
 
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What is the use if people are going to be ignorant of the point and purpose? If you do not want to believe then don't beleive. But at least make an attempt to understand just what it is that you do not accept, endorse or believe in. I get a little tired of dealing with strawmen arguments.

I don't think you understand what is meant by a straw-man. I was not attempting to attack your position, whatever it is.

Your link (http://www.eternal-productions.org/101science.html) is trying to show that the Bible contains scientific facts and foreknowledge that could not have come from the science of its own time. I was trying to find evidence for the statement that 'for hundreds of years people naively washed in standing water', and whether the Bible gives any reasons for this instruction to wash in running water. If, as you appear to be saying, the reasons for the instruction are purely spiritual and symbolic, the instruction is not based on scientific knowledge, the hygienic aspects of the practice are irrelevant, and therefore the argument for scientific foreknowledge fails.

You need not bother to explain the spiritual meaning of this instruction; it will mean nothing to me, and is of no interest to me.





 
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Words are cheap.
"The median annual Speech Writer salary is $121,533, as of June 24, 2016, with a range usually between $99,569-$155,512" Favreau, now President Obama's head speechwriter, takes home an annual salary of $172,200, equal to that of the president's Chief of Staff. wiki

How do you reconcile your understanding that: "words are cheap" when J.K. Rowling has made over a Billion dollars from her use of words. The entire franchise was estimated to be worth more than $24 billion in 2014, according to IMDB and Scholastic Children's Books. Sounds like more then chump change to me.

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"The median annual Speech Writer salary is $121,533, as of June 24, 2016, with a range usually between $99,569-$155,512" Favreau, now President Obama's head speechwriter, takes home an annual salary of $172,200, equal to that of the president's Chief of Staff. wiki

How do you reconcile your understanding that: "words are cheap" when J.K. Rowling has made over a Billion dollars from her use of words. The entire franchise was estimated to be worth more than $24 billion in 2014, according to IMDB and Scholastic Children's Books. Sounds like more then chump change to me.

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Words typed that don't match with behavior, are meaningless and people tend to catch on to this pretty quick.

That is today's lesson.
 
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Words typed that don't match with behavior, are meaningless and people tend to catch on to this pretty quick.

That is today's lesson.
Can you predict the outcome of the presidential election based on this hypothesis?
 
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I seldom use creationists sites but this link does offer Scientific Evidence to show the Bible is accurate and true. So the atheists can try to go through and falsify all 101 points or they can come up with evidence to falsify the Bible. For now the score is 101 to 0 and the ball is in the court of the atheists to offer evidence that the Bible is not 100% accurate and true. We know that God watches over His Word to Perform and to do what He says He is going to do. Jeremiah 1:12 We know that God's Word does not fail and that God always accomplishes His plan and purpose.

"God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" Num23:19

"So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." Isa 55:11

55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

The BLUE words are the Hebrew words that we find in our Bible. So there are only 9 words in this verse in the Hebrew Bible. Nine is the last of the digits, and thus marks the end; and is significant of the conclusion of a matter.

http://www.eternal-productions.org/101science.html

Two problems. First, the verse has 19 words in Hebrew, not 9 words.
Second, 9 is not the last number in Hebrew represented by a single digit. 400 is.
 
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There are only nine words in the Hebrew Bible. Here is the link you can look up that verse and check it out for yourself. http://www.apostolic-churches.net/bible/strongs/isaiah_55.shtml



All the numbers have a meaning and nine is no different.

כֵּ֣ן יִֽהְיֶ֤ה דְבָרִי֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר יֵצֵ֣א מִפִּ֔י לֹֽא־יָשׁ֥וּב אֵלַ֖י רֵיקָ֑ם כִּ֤י אִם־עָשָׂה֙ אֶת־אֲשֶׁ֣ר חָפַ֔צְתִּי וְהִצְלִ֖יחַ אֲשֶׁ֥ר שְׁלַחְתִּֽיו׃

Looks like more than nine words to me, but I don't read Hebrew, obviously.
 
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