Researchers Analyze 50 Years of Spanking Studies

[cow451]

You mean the ones who's fathers stuck around?

Regardless of family constellation.

 

[cow451]

Yeah, CPS.

A couple of years ago I went into our local YMCA to teach my son how to swim. Outside the doors they had stuck little heart shaped flags in the ground, each one representing a "reported case of child abuse." I asked the people working behind the counter if any of them knew how many of those flags represented actual cases of child abuse as opposed to someone only making a claim. They, of course, had no idea. And became near violently angry I would even dare ask.

Far too often CPS sticks their nose where they have no business based on some zealot making a phone call. It is the non-police equivalent to swatting.

Nice effort at derailment.

 

[Cimorene]

I'm glad this never happened to me.

 

[cow451]

I'm glad this never happened to me.

Derailment or spanking?

 

[Cimorene]

Derailment or spanking?

Lol. The latter! The former has happened!

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

A swat on the behind or a smack on the hand when it reaches for a hot pot on the stove is not wrong.
But then, I think progressives probably should have been spanked, or at least told "no!" every now and then.

A young child shouldn't be able to reach for a hot pot on the stove. You need to keep a better eye on kids or child proof.

 

[Julie.S]

From my limited experience on this forum, it seems like the unhelpful practice of spanking is supported on religious grounds. I have been accused of being un-biblical and even anti-Christian for saying that spanking is bad, even if my arguments are thoroughly in line with Christian ethics. If the practice of spanking really is supported by many churches in the US, I think someone should take a closer look at such teaching and how that affects the practice

I remember a Psychology professor I had mentioning something about hitting/spanking children. It does not work and when kids see violence as young children they can grow up to also do the same to their kids.

Spanking has no good outcome for the child or the next generation. However this is not always the case. There are people from my parents generation that got spanked and did not do that to their kids.

 

[cow451]

I remember a Psychology professor I had mentioning something about hitting/spanking children. It does not work and when kids see violence as young children they can grow up to also do the same to their kids.

Spanking has no good outcome for the child or the next generation. However this is not always the case. There are people from my parents generation that got spanked and did not do that to their kids.

Spanking is not the defining event in child development unless it is accompanied by crappy parenting in general.

 

[Julie.S]

Spanking is not the defining event in child development unless it is accompanied by crappy parenting in general.

Perhaps but they can still remember it 50 years later. Every parent does it differently. I heard a story about someone that was once hit so much they passed out or something along those lines.

 

[nightflight]

A young child shouldn't be able to reach for a hot pot on the stove. You need to keep a better eye on kids or child proof.

In an ideal world, yes. But things happen.

 

[cow451]

Perhaps but they can still remember it 50 years later. Every parent does it differently. I heard a story about someone that was once hit so much they passed out or something along those lines.

Which is a beating, not a spanking.

 

[Julie.S]

Which is a beating, not a spanking.

There can be a fine line of when it turns to a beating. I read a story of when a young girl was beaten to death by the family that adopted her. I forget some of the details of course but that's the gist of it. It seems a simple punishment turned into something worse.

 

[Cimorene]

Perhaps but they can still remember it 50 years later. Every parent does it differently. I heard a story about someone that was once hit so much they passed out or something along those lines.

This isn't something I've had a reason to think about much tbh but I remember a news story from earlier this yr about Canadian parents that got arrested for spanking their teenage daughter. She wasn't beaten or anything but it had badly affected her. It's illegal bc of the emotional problems it can cause. Idk if it's illegal totally or if there's an age limit. It was at the same time there was this thread on this board about a Norwegian family that had their kids taken away bc of spanking (& other stuff but spanking being illegal in Norway was a huge issue) so it stood out to me.

 

[HannahT]

I grew up in a time when most parents spanked. There is a difference between them that tends not to be spoken about. I mean the ones I still know that it was used sparingly, and it wasn't over the top? They turned out fine. It was the parents that used it as a constant tool - or only tool - for discipline that ended up being violent themselves.

Then you have those kids that just plain don't respond to that type of punishment, and then those that do. Again, I'm speaking of the sparingly and not only tool group.

I found you have to get creative with each child. My son had a toy horsie, and if you placed that toy on top of the refrigerator for a certain length of time according to his age and offense? He was good a gold the rest of the day, and didn't tend to repeat the offense. You would have thought the world came to an end with horsie out of REACH!!

My daughter you had to use a certain tone of voice, because the toy removal, time out, sit in room, etc just didn't do it for her. When she was younger EVERYTHING was drama with her. lol she is in her 20's, and at times it still can be! Yet, when she was younger? Over the top. If you used a certain tone of voice (the mommie voice) with her? She was in puddles for a few minutes, and you didn't even have to say much. Just NO! in a certain tone that the sniffles started. That got her attention, and then you reason with her? She was fine then.

She was easier to reason with overall compared to my son. Although my son was a non stop running in every direction and didn't crash until bedtime type of kid! lol!

What's funny is as the boy got older? So did his toys, and it still works. Tone or a LOOK for her? It calms her down right away. She doesn't start crying anymore...lol thankfully.

That's not to say that was the only tool in the toolbox, but I need my best to find the best torture technique (Yes, sarcasm) for each child. I can only think of maybe 2 times I popped them on the bottom once to get their attention over a major offense. They reacted better to the removal of toy or mommie tone of voice better. So, I went with it!

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

In an ideal world, yes. But things happen.

Things happen, because people aren't paying attention or teaching their kids not to touch. If a kid reaches for a hot pot. You all ready failed in protecting your child.

 

[nightflight]

Things happen, because people aren't paying attention or teaching their kids not to touch. If a kid reaches for a hot pot. You all ready failed in protecting your child.

Take heed when ye stand, lest ye fall.

 

[Hetta]

Anyone who has any knowledge of parenting research already knows this, but it's nice to see a thorough research review. Those who can't be bothered to work on those alternate means of correction of course will not accept it at kosher *because rod is biblical* i.e. you are disappointing God if you don't hit your child. SMDH.

 

[nightflight]

Spanking is a part of many cultures. Who are we to impose more cultural imperialism on others?

 

[Hetta]

Things happen, because people aren't paying attention or teaching their kids not to touch. If a kid reaches for a hot pot. You all ready failed in protecting your child.

So much truth. The number of people who have whined about how little Johnny or Jane "had to be spanked" because they kept reaching for valuable items just astonishes me. PUT THE BREAKABLES AWAY FOR A FEW YEARS, PEOPLE. Hello? The sheer stupidity of letting a toddler lose and not putting up anything dangerous/valuable is beyond me. And then they hit the kid for his/her curiosity. Ugh.

 

[HannahT]

Things happen, because people aren't paying attention or teaching their kids not to touch. If a kid reaches for a hot pot. You all ready failed in protecting your child.

Bologna.

Parents are humans, and kids are too. Things happen, and you move on. Kids will reach for the hot pot even after you teach them not to touch. Not every single one, but it does happen. That's what kids do.