"The Greatest Conceivable Being"

[Ana the Ist]

Those may be considered if one does not have the greater vantage point...but not if one does. Self-deception would be another point of disadvantage.

Again...it's worth considering that self-deception is the reason why you feel like you have a "greater" vantage point. There is a way to eliminate it as a possibility though...so pay close attention...

If something is true, it's true regardless of the vantage point one holds. After all, it's not your personal perspective that makes something true.

Because he shows himself to have not attained understanding. Since I have withheld nothing, but availed myself to share my view from the greatest of vantage points...I am quite clear that he has no intention of conceding his disadvantage.

I think he's demonstrated a clear understanding of every point you've made. Perhaps your inability to see this is because your vantage point is actually inferior...refer to my previous post for reasons why this could be.

Call it hearsay, or call it news...it only means something to those who care.

You called it hearsay...I wouldn't call it news since there's nothing new about someone claiming to know the truth and not being able to demonstrate it.

 

[Ken-1122]

Hmmm...you're not getting the message. How can I be more clear? [rhetorical] ... Does a dog have to substantiate anything to a flee? No. Nor does another flee need to substantiate anything. Deal with it.

Again, sorry...but those are the terms.

If the dog wanted the flee to believe something, he would need to substantiate it to that flee.

Ken

 

[quatona]

Hmmm...you're not getting the message. How can I be more clear? [rhetorical] ... Does a dog have to substantiate anything to a flee? No. Nor does another flee need to substantiate anything. Deal with it.

Again, sorry...but those are the terms.

If you see it that way, there is no point in a dog speaking to a flee, to begin with. And vice versa.
Have a good day.

 

[Neochristian]

If you guys only knew what you were saying about the flee and the dog...


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[bhsmte]

If you guys only knew what you were saying about the flee and the dog...


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Is that all you got?

 

[Neochristian]

Is that all you got?

That's all I have to say, yes. I'm polite.

 

[Tinker Grey]

[aside]It's flea, people.[/aside]

 

[Neochristian]

Oops. Lol. Dyslexia.

 

[ScottA]

Again...it's worth considering that self-deception is the reason why you feel like you have a "greater" vantage point. There is a way to eliminate it as a possibility though...so pay close attention...

If something is true, it's true regardless of the vantage point one holds. After all, it's not your personal perspective that makes something true.



I think he's demonstrated a clear understanding of every point you've made. Perhaps your inability to see this is because your vantage point is actually inferior...refer to my previous post for reasons why this could be.




You called it hearsay...I wouldn't call it news since there's nothing new about someone claiming to know the truth and not being able to demonstrate it.

Doubt...an obvious indication of your own vantage point...offers nothing.

And accusations of "self-deception"...is a cop out.

 

[ScottA]

If the dog wanted the flee to believe something, he would need to substantiate it to that flee.

Ken

The analogy was good until you [again] made the flee out to be greater than he is. Nevermind.

 

[ScottA]

If you see it that way, there is no point in a dog speaking to a flee, to begin with. And vice versa.
Have a good day.

Except that the analogy was not about that...and so you've missed the point. I'm not surprised.

 

[ScottA]

[aside]It's flea, people.[/aside]

Oh...did you think I meant "flea?" LOL

 

[quatona]

Except that the analogy was not about that...

It described the futile attempt at communication between a dog and a flea.

and so you've missed the point.

Feel free to spell it out then.

I'm not surprised.

Then you would have been well advised to try to make yourself clear.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Doubt...an obvious indication of your own vantage point...offers nothing.

And accusations of "self-deception"...is a cop out.

You think my position would appear stronger if I were certain of something that i couldn't prove, demonstrate, or even had evidence for?

If that were my position...you'd probably wonder if I hadn't deceived myself as well.

 

[Neochristian]

Are we debating faith right now, cause this shiz is so old it's dusty.


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[bhsmte]

Are we debating faith right now, cause this shiz is so old it's dusty.


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No one is forcing you to participate, are they?

 

[Neochristian]

God is. I'm just saying y'all are all wasting your time. In philosophy, faith is wack. But in religion, faith isn't belief without evidence. In life, faith is a virtue.


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[bhsmte]

God is. I'm just saying y'all are all wasting your time. In philosophy, faith is wack. But in religion, faith isn't belief without evidence. In life, faith is a virtue.


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What did God tell you?

 

[Neochristian]

To help y'all.


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[bhsmte]

To help y'all.


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What have you done to help?