Prove it or remove it challenge

[Extraneous]

Who? Examples please.

You perhaps.

 

[TheQuietRiot]

The fact that science admits that its self correcting is good. My whole point is that ToE is a science which attempts to do the impossible. It attempts to look millions of years into the past, using only limited understanding and means, and see the great mystery of mans origin. This is a massive undertaking and would surely require complete scientific understanding. However, science is far removed from that understanding. It will indeed keep correcting itself in the future. I see no reason to worship ToE as truth, when its really just a fallible theory, a theory that will itself keep evolving.

You don't have to worship something to accept that it is true.

Some Christians need to face facts and join the 21st century.

Evolution is here to stay.

 

[Extraneous]

You don't have to worship something to accept that it is true.

Some Christians need to face facts and join the 21st century.

Evolution is here to stay.

I have logically faced the facts about ToE.

 

[Extraneous]

I would say that ToE proponents should face the facts about ToE as well

 

[TheQuietRiot]

I have logically faced the facts about ToE.

So you accept that man and woman were not created in a special garden but evolved in the same manner that every other form of life has struggled through over millions and millions of years?

 

[Extraneous]

So you accept that man and woman were not created in a special garden but evolved in the same manner that every other form of life has struggled through over millions and millions of years?

No i do not. I have shown that this assertion is fallible, and that mans origin is still beyond mans own scientific ability to discern.

 

[VirOptimus]

You perhaps.

:eyeroll:

 

[Extraneous]

:eyeroll:

Closing your mind will not help. Just admit that science is far from being able to discern mans origin. That's not so much to ask is it? Will the world of science end, or the scientific sky fall if you just admit the truth?

 

[TheQuietRiot]

No i do not. I have shown that this assertion is fallible, and that mans origin is still beyond mans own scientific ability to discern.

Then it cannot be said that you logically accept facts about the ToE. It seems far more likely that you are accepting of certain facts that are not contrary to your theology, and rejecting those that are.

Evolution shows that modern humans (homo sapiens) evolved out of Africa approximately 100 - 200,000 years ago.

 

[Extraneous]

Then it cannot be said that you logically accept facts about the ToE. It seems far more likely that you are accepting of certain facts that are not contrary to your theology, and rejecting those that are.

Evolution shows that modern humans (homo sapiens) evolved out of Africa approximately 100 - 200,000 years ago.

I have shown that mans scientific theories are riddled with fallacy. Therefore is seems unreasonable for me to accept that this assertion you have made is written in stone. Science itself admits that it needs self correction. It seems wise to remain skeptical and open minded.

 

[VirOptimus]

Closing your mind will not help. Just admit that science is far from being able to discern mans origin. That's not so much to ask is it? Will the world of science end, or the scientific sky fall if you just admit the truth?

How clever. Learn the truth, it wont hurt.

 

[Extraneous]

How clever. Learn the truth, it wont hurt.

The truth is that you have closed your mind to the possibility that Science is wrong about ToE.

 

[TheQuietRiot]

I have shown that mans scientific theories are riddled with fallacy. Therefore is seems unreasonable for me to accept that this assertion you have made is written in stone. Science itself admits that it needs self correction. It seems wise to remain skeptical and open minded.

Science needs to be self corrected because science doesn't claim to hold an absolute truth. Science should always be trying to test its theories and its conclusions. Evolution has been tested in many ways since it was a humble theory posited by Darwin.

It has stood the test of time and will most likely continue to do so.

 

[VirOptimus]

The truth is that you have closed your mind to the possibility that Science is wrong about ToE.

In you own words, what is "science"?

 

[Extraneous]

Science needs to be self corrected because science doesn't claim to hold an absolute truth. Science should always be trying to test its theories and its conclusions. Evolution has been tested in many ways since it was a humble theory posited by Darwin.

It has stood the test of time and will most likely continue to do so.

It has not actually stood the test, I have shown why it fails the test. WE do not need to discount it altogether, but surely wisdom tells us to remain skeptical.

 

[TheQuietRiot]

It has not actually stood the test, I have shown why it fails the test. WE do not need to discount it altogether, but surely wisdom tells us to remain skeptical.

Just simply saying so does not make it so.

The fact that you do not accept it changes nothing. It is still the scientific explanation for the diversity of life just as gravity is the scientific explanation for why an object falls when you drop it.

 

[Extraneous]

In you own words, what is "science"?

Lets instead answer the question- What is ToE?

The fact that science admits that its self correcting is good. My whole point is that ToE is a science which attempts to do the impossible. It attempts to look millions of years into the past, using only limited understanding and means, and see the great mystery of mans origin. This is a massive undertaking and would surely require complete scientific understanding. However, science is far removed from that understanding. It will indeed keep correcting itself in the future. I see no reason to worship ToE as truth, when its really just a fallible theory, a theory that will itself keep evolving.

 

[Extraneous]

Just simply saying so does not make it so.

The fact that you do not accept it changes nothing. It is still the scientific explanation for the diversity of life just as gravity is the scientific explanation for why an object falls when you drop it.

I accept this-

The fact that science admits that its self correcting is good. My whole point is that ToE is a science which attempts to do the impossible. It attempts to look millions of years into the past, using only limited understanding and means, and see the great mystery of mans origin. This is a massive undertaking and would surely require complete scientific understanding. However, science is far removed from that understanding. It will indeed keep correcting itself in the future. I see no reason to worship ToE as truth, when its really just a fallible theory, a theory that will itself keep evolving.

 

[VirOptimus]

Lets instead answer the question- What is ToE?

The fact that science admits that its self correcting is good. My whole point is that ToE is a science which attempts to do the impossible. It attempts to look millions of years into the past, using only limited understanding and means, and see the great mystery of mans origin. This is a massive undertaking and would surely require complete scientific understanding. However, science is far removed from that understanding. It will indeed keep correcting itself in the future. I see no reason to worship ToE as truth, when its really just a fallible theory, a theory that will itself keep evolving.

Answer the question please. Your ramblings are irrelevant.

 

[Extraneous]

Well, im going to go. I dont wish to reiterate myself to the extant that im accused of spamming. Therefore i must take my leave. I hope we all have a pleasant and peaceful day. Thank you for your kindness and patience.