Bill Nye the Science Guy and Creationism

[Astrophile]

As Dr. Lawrence Principe notes, "The idea that scientific and religious camps have historically been separate and antagonistic is rejected by all modern historians of science."

David gives just a few example of quotes given throughout the centuries from different faith , Christians, Deist and atheist. All quotes are religious.

If you accept the principle asserted in these quotations, why do you maintain that what scientists (most of whom are or were Christians) have found about the age of the Universe and the solar system, and about the evolution of living things, is false and must be rejected in favour of a particular interpretation of the Bible?

 

[joshua 1 9]

He's really not a science guy.

That is interesting that he does not have any actual training in science. He is pretty much just as actor. Of course he works for PBS and his job is to get children and young people interested in Science. Perhaps he is acting as a Pit Bull for PBS when he gets himself into controversy that they would not want to get involved in sense they are supported by contributions.

 

[joshua 1 9]

The only thing we'd have to give up us the delusion the God did it...

I can name that tune in two notes: double standard. If you live by the sword you have to be prepared to die by the sword. You are going to have to live by your own standard. You can not just impose your standard on others and not expect to live by it yourself. That is just the way the laws of the universe work. As you judge you will be judged. The very same judgement you impose on others is the judgement you will be given.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Well why do you think nobody in my generation in America has ever had polio?

Polio cases have decreased by over 99% since 1988.

 

[Butterfly99]

Because of the grace of God.

Yes, and cause of you know, the POLIO VACCINE which was thx to science.

Polio cases have decreased by over 99% since 1988.

Yes. What I was asking was why they've decreased so dramatically. I gave the correct answer above.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Science had made sure nobody else ever gets Polio again... not too shabby...

That is a feather in their cap to be sure but in all things we should give Honor and Glory to God. He is the one that is doing a work of restoration in this world. That is why Jesus died in our place at Calvary so that we can have life.

 

[Murby]

That is interesting that he does not have any actual training in science. He is pretty much just as actor. Of course he works for PBS and his job is to get children and young people interested in Science. Perhaps he is acting as a Pit Bull for PBS when he gets himself into controversy that they would not want to get involved in sense they are supported by contributions.

No actual training in science? lol.. "just an actor" ??
May I direct your attention to a web page you might find interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye

The reason why guys like Nye and Tyson do more work as actors than actual scientists is because most scientists are not all that charismatic, and it takes a certain amount of charisma to bring science to the masses through entertainment. So, when media producers find someone who is unusually personable in their field, sometimes they get luck enough to entice them into the entertainment industry where their talents can do more for science than the actual scientific work they do.

 

[Butterfly99]

if you go back to the 1600s you will find that the church was the instigators of learning as they launched most of the universities in those days.

I think most folks already know that, & it doesn't change the truth of what I said at all. Religion has advanced knowledge but it's also held it back at times.

 

[joshua 1 9]

It's amazing how many back flips you can do to justify your beliefs. I thought you rejected evolution.

I do not reject evolution. I have said a million, billion, quadrillion times there is no conflict between science and religion. None, zip, zero. What part of nothing do you have trouble understanding. True science and true religion are 100% compatible. There just so happens to be false religion and false science out there. In fact the whole aim and purpose of science is to find the truth and eliminate the false. Religion also claims a zeal for the truth.

 

[redleghunter]

No actual training in science? lol.. "just an actor" ??
May I direct your attention to a web page you might find interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye

The reason why guys like Nye and Tyson do more work as actors than actual scientists is because most scientists are not all that charismatic, and it takes a certain amount of charisma to bring science to the masses through entertainment. So, when media producers find someone who is unusually personable in their field, sometimes they get luck enough to entice them into the entertainment industry where their talents can do more for science than the actual scientific work they do.

He's no Hawking.

Engineering BS. Took an undergrad course by Sagan.

He's an educated guy but really pushing the science guy thing.

 

[joshua 1 9]

No actual training in science? lol.. "just an actor" ??
May I direct your attention to a web page you might find interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye

mechanical engineering is math, not science. You do not study evolution at all when you study mechanical engineering. He can go on TV and be a science guy because he is an actor following a script. My sister was a teacher at a jr college for most of her life. She said if you want to teach then you only have to keep one chapter ahead of the class. That is all a teacher has to do is teach the text book. In a lot of countries the students do not even have a text book. They can not afford the text book. The only person with a book is the teacher.

 

[Murby]

mechanical engineering is math, not science. You do not study evolution at all when you study mechanical engineering

ROFLMAO.. dude.. sometimes you should probably think about what you post before you hit the little "POST REPLY" button..

 

[bhsmte]

"Four in 10 Americans believe God created the Earth and anatomically modern humans, less than 10,000 years ago, according to a new Gallup poll."

http://news.discovery.com/human/lif...-god-created-earth-10000-years-ago-140606.htm

The more education one has, the less chance they believe what you state above.

 

[bhsmte]

ROFLMAO.. dude.. sometimes you should probably think about what you post before you hit the little "POST REPLY" button..

Stick around, you ain't seen nothing yet.

 

[joshua 1 9]

The more education one has, the less chance they believe what you state above.

So you admit then that the more formal education they have the more they are brain washed.

 

[bhsmte]

He's no Dawkins.

Does one have to be like Dawkins to know science?

 

[Murby]

joshua 1 9 said: ↑
"Four in 10 Americans believe God created the Earth and anatomically modern humans, less than 10,000 years ago, according to a new Gallup poll."

In response to Joshua's quote above:

the more education one has, the less chance they believe what you state above.

Actually, you might be mistaken on this. I sincerely believe you are over-estimating the educational level of the general population of the USA.
The NSF (the same guys who just found gravity waves) did a survey a few years back and found that a full 25% of Americans still think the sun revolves around the earth.
Here is the link:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ink-the-sun-goes-around-the-earth-survey-says

So when joshua says there's a bunch of idiots out there who think god created the earth 10,000 years ago, don't be so quick to dismiss it.

Hey Joshua,, you might want to take a picture of this post of mine.. its not often I defend you eh? LOL

 

[Butterfly99]

So you admit then that the more formal education they have the more they are brain washed.

Why would you manipulate what he just wrote like that? You're not helping Christians to look any better, mister.

 

[joshua 1 9]

ROFLMAO.. dude.. sometimes you should probably think about what you post before you hit the little "POST REPLY" button..

Both my sons are engineering students so I know what classes they are taking. I know how much they have studied evolution: not much.

 

[bhsmte]

So you admit then that the more formal education they have the more they are brain washed.

You have this habit of creating strawman and putting words in people's mouths. Trust me, you are doing yourself no favors.

I tend to think, the more education, the more people learn.

Of course, if what others learn disagrees with you, they must be brain washed, correct?