Why don't protestants bless Mary?

[pgp_protector]

So do you call her blessed, then? And if so, exactly how do you bless her?

IF they don't "bless her" is she no longer Blessed?
Is that all it takes is for one person to not bless her and she's not blessed anymore ?

 

[Albion]

I'm glad that we agree that Mary conceived Jesus, our God.

Is there someone who doesn't?

Certainly that is Biblical support for the Word of God that Mary is Assumed into Heaven.

No. It's not.

If you can't see that there is no connection between the two, this is more of a waste of time than I thought.

 

[patricius79]

No. It's not.

If you can't see that there is no connection between the two, this is more of a waste of time than I thought.

I see a great connection between the two. It makes sense that the woman who conceived Jesus Christ, our God, would be Assumed into Heaven, as the Church teaches.

 

[Albion]

I see a great connection between the two. It makes sense that the woman who conceived Jesus Christ, our God, would be Assumed into Heaven, as the Church teaches.

"It makes sense" is not the basis for a Christian dogma.

Imagine all the other honors that "it would make sense" for God to have worked. Mary grew wings. Mary swam with the dolphins. Mary was transported to Shangri La to lecture the Lamas. Mary could turn water into Coca Cola. There is no end to the possibilities...once we decide that "it makes sense" is all that we need.

 

[patricius79]

"It makes sense" is not the basis for a Christian dogma.

Imagine all the other honors that "it would make sense" for God to have worked. Mary grew wings. Mary swam with the dolphins. Mary was transported to Shangri La to lecture the Lamas. Mary could turn water into Coca Cola. There is no end to the possibilities...once we decide that "it makes sense" is all that we need.

Why does it make sense to compare those things to the Christian doctrine of the Assumption of the Mother of God?

 

[patricius79]

In John 19:3, is the same greek word used--"Hail"--as in Luke 1:28?

Also, I think it's amazing the title or name that Gabriel gives Mary: "(Hail,) Having Been Endowed With Grace".

Of course, the Mother of God would be absolutely perfect in God's grace, and especially in humility.

 

[Albion]

Why does it make sense to compare those things to the Christian doctrine of the Assumption of the Mother of God?

Because they are all based upon nothing other than "God COULD have done this." Well, if that's all you need to create a dogma, just think of all the other wonderful things we could imagine Mary doing. And that's all it is--imagining.

I am of the belief that sound doctrine matters and that, when doctrine is defined, there should be a real basis for it (such as the Bible), not just "whatever you can think of."

 

[patricius79]

Because they are all based upon nothing other than "God COULD have done this."

Who said that?

I know that the Assumption is true because it is the Word of God, passed on by the Catholic Church, like the N.T. Canon and the doctrine of the Trinity.

Can you provide a non-Catholic source of the N.T. Canon? If not, isn't it possible that the Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ, and that she is right about the Mother of God?

 

[Meowzltov]

IF they don't "bless her" is she no longer Blessed?
Is that all it takes is for one person to not bless her and she's not blessed anymore ?

I don't think anyone said anything to that effect. Is your way of avoiding the question by changing the subject perhaps?

 

[n2thelight]

I don't think anyone said anything to that effect. Is your way of avoiding the question by changing the subject perhaps?

I was about to say the same thing.She's blessed regardless...When you say why won't they bless her,what exactly do you mean?Maybe the question should had been,why don't they worship her.....

 

[n2thelight]

Who said that?

I know that the Assumption is true because it is the Word of God, passed on by the Catholic Church, like the N.T. Canon and the doctrine of the Trinity.

Can you provide a non-Catholic source of the N.T. Canon? If not, isn't it possible that the Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ, and that she is right about the Mother of God?

You believe everything the CC tells you....Christ said to search the scriptures to see if something is true.How than do we check tradition?

 

[n2thelight]

I see a great connection between the two. It makes sense that the woman who conceived Jesus Christ, our God, would be Assumed into Heaven, as the Church teaches.

As the church,not scripture......WOW!!!!!

 

[patricius79]

You believe everything the CC tells you....Christ said to search the scriptures to see if something is true.

What verse are you referring to? Christ said "whoever listens to you listens to me", thus testifying to the authority of the Church. The Bible says to hold fast to the traditions, whether given orally or by letter. I think the Scriptures are part of Tradition (the Word of God), which tells us which books are in the Bible, and that the Woman who conceives Jesus Christ, our God, is All-Holy and Assumed into Heaven.

 

[Albion]

Who said that?

I know that the Assumption is true because it is the Word of God, passed on by the Catholic Church

As I recall, I made this point before. You believe what you believe because you've chosen a denomination and decided to believe whatever it tells you. The discussion here about Scripture vs Tradition and all of that is really incidental since you'll believe doctrines that are not to be found in either of them...but which are, nevertheless, taught by your church.

 

[patricius79]

As I recall, I made this point before. You believe what you believe because you've chosen a denomination and decided to believe whatever it tells you. The discussion here about Scripture vs Tradition and all of that is really incidental since you'll believe doctrines that are not to be found in either of them...but which are, nevertheless, taught by your church.

I don't see the Catholic Church as a denomination. It is the Church founded by Jesus Christ, who told us to listen to her. Christ said "whoever listens to you listens to me". To whom does that living-and-active Word of God apply if not to the Catholic Church? The doctrine of the Assumption of the Queen of Heaven, our Mother, is part of the Word of God (Tradition), which includes Scripture.

 

[Meowzltov]

Maybe the question should had been,why don't they worship her.

But that's too obvious. Same reason why Catholics don't worship her.

 

[pgp_protector]

So do you call her blessed, then? And if so, exactly how do you bless her?

IF they don't "bless her" is she no longer Blessed?
Is that all it takes is for one person to not bless her and she's not blessed anymore ?

I don't think anyone said anything to that effect. Is your way of avoiding the question by changing the subject perhaps?

I'm trying to see why Person "A" must bless Person "B" to be able to call Person "B" Blessed.
Can I say John is Blessed without myself Blessing John ?

 

[patricius79]

I guess the issue for me is asking how we can honor God if we don't honor His Mother. As St. Augustine said, we should never doubt that Mary is sinless, on account of the honor of the Lord.

 

[Aldebaran]

I know that is what you believe, but I don't agree, because of the light of faith.

It's faith in traditions invented by and passed down by man. That's not really something I want to put my faith in.

 

[Aldebaran]

What verse are you referring to? Christ said "whoever listens to you listens to me", thus testifying to the authority of the Church. The Bible says to hold fast to the traditions, whether given orally or by letter. I think the Scriptures are part of Tradition (the Word of God), which tells us which books are in the Bible, and that the Woman who conceives Jesus Christ, our God, is All-Holy and Assumed into Heaven.

What is the other part of tradition? Does it include whatever people in the church tell you?