Genesis Is the understanding the of Ancient Hebrews.It doesn't have to be scientific.

[AV1611VET]

TARDIS technology, eh?

Yes.

The Ark may have been a TARDIS booth.

That is, a containment vessel whose inside is bigger than its outside.

Do you also believe that God was one of the Time Lords from the planet of Gallifrey, since they were the ones that developed TARDIS technology?

No.

So sayeth the gospel of Dr. Who.

Don't give me no hand-me-down world. -The Guess Who

 

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Trees were made on the 3rd Day. Gen 1:12 Your argument is that the Trees in the Garden were different from the Trees made on the 3rd Day BUT that is nothing more than your unsupported opinion since it CANNOT be supported Scripturally. Try again? Remember that to refute me (prove me wrong) you MUST post supporting Scripture which you have failed to do. God Bless you

Gen 1 is talking about the vegetation world wide.
Gen 1:11 Then God said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation: plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them"; and it was so. 12The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good.13There was evening and there was morning, a third day.

Gen 2 is talking about the vegetation God causes to grow in the garden that God planted. This is a separate event.
Gen 2:8 The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed.9Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

In Gen 1 the EARTH sprouts the vegetation. In Gen 2 the vegetation is in a garden...towards the east. Consider yourself refuted. Amen?

 

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Abraham was saved by Faith, just as modern man can be saved only by the Gift of Faith from God, Himself. Since there are more than 30k denominations, God has insured that ONLY by Faith can one be saved. Amen?

Eph 2:8 For by grace (Unmerited reward) are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

You didn't address the issue.

 

[Aman777]

Gen 1 is talking about the vegetation world wide.
Gen 1:11 Then God said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation: plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them"; and it was so. 12The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good.13There was evening and there was morning, a third day.

No wonder you are so confused and have to resort to Screaming. It's NOT your fault since you have been led astray by your altered version of Scripture. Here is the what the verse really says in the KJV, which is less altered than your paraphrased version:

Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after His kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

WHO made the Trees? Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree

See? It was Lord God (YHWH/Jesus), since the Trees are HIS kind. THEIR kind are the kinds which the Trinity created. See Gen 1:21 in the KJV and your confusion and frustration should end.

*** Gen 2 is talking about the vegetation God causes to grow in the garden that God planted. This is a separate event.

Gen 2:8 The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. 9Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

In Gen 1 the EARTH sprouts the vegetation. In Gen 2 the vegetation is in a garden...towards the east. Consider yourself refuted. Amen?

Not so fast. Your version ELIMINATES Jesus from the Creation. ALSO, you claim GOD (Trinity) made the vegetation in Gen 2 when the verse you quoted clearly shows that it was Lord God (Jesus). How in the world can you understand what God told Noah and what Lord God told him? God told Noah to take 2 of each sort Gen 6:19 and Jesus told him to take 2 of the unclean and 7 of the clean animals with him on the Ark. Gen 7:2

I suggest you get yourself an older version of Scripture since your newer version has confused you to the point where you are obviously frustrated. God Bless you

 

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No wonder you are so confused and have to resort to Screaming. It's NOT your fault since you have been led astray by your altered version of Scripture. Here is the what the verse really says in the KJV, which is less altered than your paraphrased version:

Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after His kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

WHO made the Trees? Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree

See? It was Lord God (YHWH/Jesus), since the Trees are HIS kind. THEIR kind are the kinds which the Trinity created. See Gen 1:21 in the KJV and your confusion and frustration should end.

*** Gen 2 is talking about the vegetation God causes to grow in the garden that God planted. This is a separate event.

Gen 2:8 The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. 9Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

In Gen 1 the EARTH sprouts the vegetation. In Gen 2 the vegetation is in a garden...towards the east. Consider yourself refuted. Amen?

Not so fast. Your version ELIMINATES Jesus from the Creation. ALSO, you claim GOD (Trinity) made the vegetation in Gen 2 when the verse you quoted clearly shows that it was Lord God (Jesus). How in the world can you understand what God told Noah and what Lord God told him? God told Noah to take 2 of each sort Gen 6:19 and Jesus told him to take 2 of the unclean and 7 of the clean animals with him on the Ark. Gen 7:2

I suggest you get yourself an older version of Scripture since your newer version has confused you to the point where you are obviously frustrated. God Bless you

Nice try Aman777. The bible is very clear there are two veggy events. Your whole false theology is hinged on one veggy event. The bottom line, you have been refuted.

 

[Aman777]

You didn't address the issue.

Sure I did. Try to be more specific and I will address the issue more to your belief. Amen?

 

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Sure I did. Try to be more specific and I will address the issue more to your belief. Amen?

Aman777...you've lost all credibility.

 

[Aman777]

Nice try Aman777. The bible is very clear there are two veggy events. Your whole false theology is hinged on one veggy event. The bottom line, you have been refuted.

Okay? As I told you in the last post. Your paraphrased and altered version of Scripture has confused you. Maybe this will help:

The first 34 verses of Genesis is the complete HISTORY of the 7 Day story of the Creation, including events which are future to 2015. ALL of the rest of the Bible adds details to the events of God's 7 Days of Creation. Genesis 2:1-3 tells us of a FUTURE Day, the 7th Day, when God rests (ceases) from ALL of His work of creating. When God rests from ALL of His creating, NO one can be saved because the HOST of Heaven (Christians) will be finished or brought to perfection as Gen 2:1 clearly states.

At Gen 2:4, the narrative takes us BACK to the events of the 3rd Day. Your confusion is caused because you don't seem to understand that the FIRST 34 verses of Genesis is an OUTLINE of ALL of the rest of the Bible and ALL of the rest of the Bible refers BACK to the events of God's 7 Days of Creation. Hope this helps. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Aman777...you've lost all credibility.

Not until you can present Scripture which refutes me. Amen?

 

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Not until you can present Scripture which refutes me. Amen?

In reality I didn't refute you....THE BIBLE DID.
Day 3 was the creation of trees all over the world. Day 6 was the creation of trees in the garden. That's what the bible says.

 

[Aman777]

In reality I didn't refute you....THE BIBLE DID.
Day 3 was the creation of trees all over the world. Day 6 was the creation of trees in the garden. That's what the bible says.

False, since Gen 2:4-8 clearly shows that the Trees in the Garden were made on the THIRD Day after Adam was made.

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth (3rd Day Gen 1:10) and the heavens, 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, (3rd Day Gen 1:12) and every herb of the field before it grew: (3rd Day Gen 1:12) for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed.

9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree (3rd Day Gen 1:12) that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Doesn't it bother you to be so wrong all the time? You must still be reading your altered and paraphrased version of the Bible since you keep falsely accusing me while Scripture keeps REFUTING you. Amen?

 

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False, since Gen 2:4-8 clearly shows that the Trees in the Garden were made on the THIRD Day after Adam was made.

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth (3rd Day Gen 1:10) and the heavens, 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, (3rd Day Gen 1:12) and every herb of the field before it grew: (3rd Day Gen 1:12) for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed.

9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree (3rd Day Gen 1:12) that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Doesn't it bother you to be so wrong all the time? You must still be reading your altered and paraphrased version of the Bible since you keep falsely accusing me while Scripture keeps REFUTING you. Amen?

Everytime you put up those verses.....Your interpretation suffers.

Once again...and I'll keep saying it....Gen 1 TREES were world wide.(day 3) Gen 2 TREES were in the garden (day 6).
If Gen 1 trees and Gen 2 trees are the same trees....then the ONLY place God made trees was in the garden....and we know the bible doesn't teach that. How do we know that? Gen 1 says they were trees of the field and Gen 2 says trees in the garden. Two separate places and two separate events.

....show me one denomination that agree's with you. I know the Baptist don't.

 

[Aman777]

Everytime you put up those verses.....Your interpretation suffers.

Once again...and I'll keep saying it....Gen 1 TREES were world wide.(day 3) Gen 2 TREES were in the garden (day 6).
If Gen 1 trees and Gen 2 trees are the same trees....then the ONLY place God made trees was in the garden....and we know the bible doesn't teach that. How do we know that? Gen 1 says they were trees of the field and Gen 2 says trees in the garden. Two separate places and two separate events.

....show me one denomination that agree's with you. I know the Baptist don't.

It matters NOT that any denomination agrees with me since most study the traditional religious views of ancient men and I seek the AGREEMENT of Scripture, Science and History. It's also hard to get scientists to AGREE with me too, since they don't believe Scripture.

Read ll Peter 3:3-7 and you will find that Peter DOES agree with me, since he tells us that the Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that Adam's world (kosmos) was totally destroyed in the flood. Are you a Bible believer or a Scoffer of the last days? That's the question. Amen?

 

[SkyWriting]

It does look like some of the early stories are taken from Sumerian and Egyptians sources adding Hebrew philosophy to them.

True stories often have more than one source.

 

[SkyWriting]

Knowing that the bible isn't perfect, doesn't take away the bible but authenticates it.

The scriptures are a perfect guide to God's Holy Spirit and without error.
Moses hid a body in a sandy grave. This is not an example intended
as a guide for us to re-enact.

 

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It matters NOT that any denomination agrees with me since most study the traditional religious views of ancient men and I seek the AGREEMENT of Scripture, Science and History. It's also hard to get scientists to AGREE with me too, since they don't believe Scripture.

Read ll Peter 3:3-7 and you will find that Peter DOES agree with me, since he tells us that the Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that Adam's world (kosmos) was totally destroyed in the flood. Are you a Bible believer or a Scoffer of the last days? That's the question. Amen?

Adams world went from day 1 when the creation began until the flood of Noah occurred.

What I scoff at is your misinterpretation.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Gen 1 is talking about the vegetation world wide.
Gen 1:11 Then God said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation: plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them"; and it was so. 12The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good.13There was evening and there was morning, a third day.

Gen 2 is talking about the vegetation God causes to grow in the garden that God planted. This is a separate event.
Gen 2:8 The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed.9Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

In Gen 1 the EARTH sprouts the vegetation. In Gen 2 the vegetation is in a garden...towards the east. Consider yourself refuted. Amen?

The vegetation in Genesis 1 would have been Pangea when all the land was one super continent.

 

[joshua 1 9]

False, since Gen 2:4-8 clearly shows that the Trees in the Garden were made on the THIRD Day after Adam was made.

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth (3rd Day Gen 1:10) and the heavens, 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, (3rd Day Gen 1:12) and every herb of the field before it grew: (3rd Day Gen 1:12) for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed.

9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree (3rd Day Gen 1:12) that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Doesn't it bother you to be so wrong all the time? You must still be reading your altered and paraphrased version of the Bible since you keep falsely accusing me while Scripture keeps REFUTING you. Amen?

We are talking about botany and science has a fairly good understanding of the domestication of ancient plants in the Middle East. For example they love to study wheat:

"Wheat is believed to have originated in southwestern Asia. Some of the earliest remains of the crop have been found in Syria, Jordan, and Turkey. Primitive relatives of present day wheat have been discovered in some of the oldest excavations of the world in eastern Iraq, which date back 9,000 years."

 

[joshua 1 9]

No, the evidence say parts of the Earth were underwater at times. It also says that for the last 600 million years at least that there has always been some land.

God always repopulates the earth with a remnant of what was here before. Noah was back at the beginning of domestication. Corn for example: there is a big difference between wild corn and domesticated corn. The wild corn falls off and the wind scatters the seeds. The domesticated corn tends to stay on the ear so that man can transport the seed to a new location. This is how farming spread to Europe from the Middle East. The wind could not carry the seeds that far, man had to transport the seeds.

 

[Aman777]

The vegetation in Genesis 1 would have been Pangea when all the land was one super continent.

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days SCOFFERS, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of His coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world (Grk-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (Grk-destroyed utterly) 7 But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Thanks for confirming what Peter told us 2k years ago. Just one question. What is the difference between the world that THEN WAS and the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW? Happy New Year and God Bless you.