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Genesis Is the understanding the of Ancient Hebrews.It doesn't have to be scientific.

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That is rather shallow thinking. I would rather try to make the world better in some way. Even if I am forgotten, which I will be eventually, I still will have made the world a better place for people to live in. That is a worthy pursuit.

Still doesn't matter. POOF...your gone. Great future.
 
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You nailed it in one, that is exactly what happens to us all, our brain dies along with it our dreams and our wishes,
we then revert to the state we were in before we were born, it didn't bother us then and it won't bother us again.Who ever said there needed to be a point? the only point there is to your life is the point you give it yourself.
If you can't handle that there is always a religion to cling to, take your pick there are hundreds of them..

Nice religion you follow. No hope.
 
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I'm sure there wasn't a world wide flood. After all, you said there wasn't.
Being facetious does not make you look good. Especially when doing so only underscores the fact that you lack a scientific education. It is not just me. It is all of science that says there was no worldwide flood. There is no geological evidence, all of the sedimentary deposits tell us that there was no worldwide flood. There is no biological evidence. If there was a worldwide flood there would be a universal population bottleneck. There isn't one. Population bottlenecks are the exception rather than the rule. Physics tells us that there was no flood. Water coming in from "the canopy" would have cooked Noah and company. Water coming up from the "deeps" would have done the same.

If you did just a little research you would have found these facts out for yourself. Do you need links on any of these claims? I can supply them.
 
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Still doesn't matter. POOF...your gone. Great future.
My gone? And what is wrong with that future? It is your future too. Don't you want to leave a better world for your children? That alone makes living a good life worthwhile.
 
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I'm not confused at all. I'm simply stating what is in the Scriptures and what is not. The Scriptures state that the sun, moon and stars were created on day four, and prior to that there was a source of light. Now we don't see another source of light other than the sun, which means it went somewhere. My guess is that it became the rest of the our galaxy; the "big bang," then, happened on day four. It did not include the earth, which was already formed.
Nothing in the Scriptures precludes other created life.
Nothing in the Scriptures precludes other created worlds.
Nothing in the Scriptures precludes God from creating additional species other than what is mentioned.
The Scriptures are not intended to transcribe all that can be known about the universe. They are the the words from the Lord about the history and failings of man as well as the offered chance for salvation.

Genesis 1
3 And God said,“Let there be light,” and there was light.4 God saw that the light was good,and he separated the light from the darkness.5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning the first day.

God separated the light from darkness and there is day and night. There was evening and there was morning the first day. The actual scripture is different from what your describing.
 
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I'm sure there wasn't a world wide flood. After all, you said there wasn't.

If there was NO flood, people would STILL be hunting for a cave to sleep in tonight. The traditional religious flood story has been totally misunderstood for thousands of years and does not agree with what is actually written in God's Holy Word.

A really good example is the Fact that our Earth could NOT be the Earth which was "clean dissolved" in the flood. Planet Earth is a rock and is totally covered in water BUT does NOT dissolve. The world wide flood did totally destroy Adam's flat Earth and that is WHY evolution is absolutely False. Amen?
 
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If there was NO flood, people would STILL be hunting for a cave to sleep in tonight. The traditional religious flood story has been totally misunderstood for thousands of years and does not agree with what is actually written in God's Holy Word.

A really good example is the Fact that our Earth could NOT be the Earth which was "clean dissolved" in the flood. Planet Earth is a rock and is totally covered in water BUT does NOT dissolve. The world wide flood did totally destroy Adam's flat Earth and that is WHY evolution is absolutely False. Amen?

So there was a flat Earth, which was destroyed, and now we have got a brand new planet, which is spherical.

Creationists get crazier by the day.
 
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Atheism is not a religion. It is a lack of religion. And the correct statement would be "No false hopes."

No it's not a deity. That's true. It is a belief system though. Every one in the world needs a belief system about the world to function in it.
For example You must have beliefs about animals.
Do you eat them.
Can you kill them for sport.
Do you need to be kind to animals ?
and so on.
 
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Being facetious does not make you look good. Especially when doing so only underscores the fact that you lack a scientific education. It is not just me. It is all of science that says there was no worldwide flood. There is no geological evidence, all of the sedimentary deposits tell us that there was no worldwide flood. There is no biological evidence. If there was a worldwide flood there would be a universal population bottleneck. There isn't one. Population bottlenecks are the exception rather than the rule. Physics tells us that there was no flood. Water coming in from "the canopy" would have cooked Noah and company. Water coming up from the "deeps" would have done the same.

Are these theories falsifiable?
 
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Who said life doesn't exist on other planets because it more than likely does? there is just the ever so small problem of distance to overcome, they could have set out to reach here a million years ago and still be traveling, how would we know?

The problem with living in a fantasy world is there are no boundaries to hold the mind in check and people tend to wonder into the unhinged section, religion doesn't help either because it allows people to believe the unbelievable in everything not just religion.

True story. A passerby once stopped and told me that I "was crazy" (unhinged?) as he observed me busily shoveling what appeared to be bare cement. It took me aback for a moment, but then I realized that he couldn't see the residue of sand that I was scraping up and tossing onto the grass.
 
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God separated the light from darkness and there is day and night. There was evening and there was morning the first day. The actual scripture is different from what your describing.
No, it isn't different at all. The first day was prior to the fourth day, was it not?
How do you separate light from darkness? You block the light. What blocked the light? The earth. It was rotating day one because there was an evening and a morning; either that or some mysterious light was in orbit around the earth. It's more logical to presume that the earth was in rotation since it's rotating now.
 
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No, it isn't different at all. The first day was prior to the fourth day, was it not?
How do you separate light from darkness? You block the light. What blocked the light? The earth. It was rotating day one because there was an evening and a morning; either that or some mysterious light was in orbit around the earth. It's more logical to presume that the earth was in rotation since it's rotating now.

Where did the light come from?
If we didn't need the Sun then, why do we need it now?

What would be more logical is to accept what is dawning on even conservative scholars: That Genesis 1 is not a physical account of creation.
 
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Where did the light come from?
If we didn't need the Sun then, why do we need it now?

What would be more logical is to accept what is dawning on even conservative scholars: That Genesis 1 is not a physical account of creation.

Rev 22:5 must not be a physical account considering there is no need for the sun.
And night will be no more. They will need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they will reign forever and ever.

Perhaps when God said...let there be light, God lit up.
 
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So there was a flat Earth, which was destroyed, and now we have got a brand new planet, which is spherical.

Creationists get crazier by the day.

Gen 7 says:

18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters. 19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 20 Fifteen cubits upward (22.5 feet) did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

Ancient Hebrew theologians taught that the flood covered the mountains to a depth of 15 cubits, but that is NOT what is written. The Flood prevailed for 22.5 feet upon Adam's Earth, when the mountains were covered with water. This indicates a Flat Earth IF you accept what is actually written. No craziness, just Scriptural fact which shows another Earth which was totally destroyed in the flood. ll Peter 3:6 Amen?
 
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Gen 7 says:

18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters. 19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 20 Fifteen cubits upward (22.5 feet) did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

Ancient Hebrew theologians taught that the flood covered the mountains to a depth of 15 cubits, but that is NOT what is written. The Flood prevailed for 22.5 feet upon Adam's Earth, when the mountains were covered with water. This indicates a Flat Earth IF you accept what is actually written. No craziness, just Scriptural fact which shows another Earth which was totally destroyed in the flood. ll Peter 3:6 Amen?

By flat earth do you mean a smoother earth where the mountains were not as high or that the earth wasn't a sphere?
 
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Rev 22:5 must not be a physical account considering there is no need for the sun.
And night will be no more. They will need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they will reign forever and ever.

Perhaps when God said...let there be light, God lit up.

No. Jesus, called Lord God (YHWH) in the Old Testament is the Light of the first Day, just as He will be the Light of Heaven. Jesus is brighter than the Noonday Sun and blinded Saul on the road to Damascus.

Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

Read on and you will see that it is Jesus Who is the Light. Amen?
 
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Where did the light come from?
God said, "Let there be light."
If we didn't need the Sun then, why do we need it now?
Big bang theory posits that the universe came from a singularity and rapidly expanded in more or less the same pattern we see now. I believe the source of that origination to be what was called "light;" that the entire universe (except the earth) formed from God's original creation. The Scriptures make no reference to what happened on day four other than that the sun, moon and stars were there and no other mention of "light" was recorded.

The events of Genesis are referenced over 300 times in the New Testament alone. Jesus quoted extensively from the Scriptures and said that man must live by "every word which comes from the mouth of God." He referenced Adam and Eve, called Noah by name and treated the writings of Noah as the authorized word of God. If Jesus, who was there, believes in the creation, should not His followers believe as well?
 
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By flat earth do you mean a smoother earth where the mountains were not as high or that the earth wasn't a sphere?

Read Gen 1:6-8 and you will see that God made Adam's firmament, which He called "Heaven" on the 2nd Day. At the beginning of the 3rd Day, God put water from under the firmament, into the firmament and dry ground appeared on top of the water. Gen 1:8-9 Find ANY solid container, put water in and then dry ground on top, and the dry ground will be Flat. Amen?
 
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