Neolithic Revolution

[joshua 1 9]

The Neolithic Revolution witnesses the transition from hunting & gathering to agriculture as man's main means of substance. Man has been on this earth for 2,000,000 years. 99% of this time he lived as a hunter gather. This has been a successful means of adaptation. Why would man abandon something that has been so successful for a very long period of time?

The most striking fact about agriculture is how rapidly this became a universal event. Around 10,000 years ago all of mankind lived on wild food. By 2,000 years ago the overwhelming majority of people lived from the produce of farming. Up until the end of the eighteenth century, the vast majority of people were farmers. The industrial revolution is very recent in our history. This industrialization of farming has produced an abundance of food that has allowed the worlds population to increase dramatically.

This agriculture revolution has taken places in stages over time as the tools became available. Does the Bible provide the key to open the door of understanding how this all has taken place? We learn that before Adam there was no man to till the land. "The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it." What does History and Science say about this? We know that around 3500 years ago the first plow was pulled by an animal. We see that science and history confirms what began with Adam and Eve around 6,000 years ago in Eden.

There is an abundance of Scientific evidence in this area where science confirms that the Bible is accurate and true. The main reason is because science has put a lot of effort into the study of the Neolithic Revolution. They discovered that farming began in the Middle East, just as we would expect from reading the Bible. You would think that farming began in Egypt where you have a rich abundance of artifacts. The Hebrew children did spend time in Egypt. Still this all began in Ancient Mesopotamia. In the land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. This is the Euphrates river valley and it is a flood plain. That is why farming began here, flood plain are very futile ground. Often you do not even need a plow, just throw your seeds out in the mud and they will grow and produce a futile crop.

There is a rich abundance of artifacts in the last 10,000 years so science can follow this revolution every step of the way. As man goes from the stone age to using metal and making pottery. Hunter gather just needed to weave a basket to carry his food. He would make a fish hook out of bone. Even that only goes back maybe 40,000 years. The huge abundance of artifacts all confirm that the Bible is 100% accurate and true. If you remain faithful to the original Hebrew language. If you rightly divide or rightly understand the Bible that we have to learn from and study. Of course far to often people do not understand the Bible because they put so little time and effort into their study of the Bible.

Peter tells us about Paul when he says: "His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction." The Bible is the way of life and health. Those who twist and distort the Bible are on their way to destruction. They do not know the way of life and health and healing. They do not know the way of abundant Godly prosperity.

 

[Jimmy D]

We see that science and history confirms what began with Adam and Eve around 6,000 years ago in Eden.

As you said, the Neolithic revolution began 10000 years ago and occurred independently in several places around the world. If you think that that 'confirms' the bible I'd suggest it's wishful thinking.

"His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

You should listen to Peter.

 

[joshua 1 9]

As you said, the Neolithic revolution began 10000 years ago and occurred independently in several places around the world. If you think that that 'confirms' the bible I'd suggest it's wishful thinking.

If you studied the Neolithic revolution then you would know it confirms the Bible. They revolution takes place in stages and those stages are well defined in the Bible. As a dispensationalist I can explain to you how a day is 1000 years. So that this age we live in began around 13,000 years ago. That is when the ice was melting. The ocean was rising. At first the hunter gathers ............................................... Oh never mind, I am getting tired of going though this again and again and explaining it to people all over again.

 

[Armoured]

The Neolithic Revolution witnesses the transition from hunting & gathering to agriculture as man's main means of substance. Man has been on this earth for 2,000,000 years. 99% of this time he lived as a hunter gather. This has been a successful means of adaptation. Why would man abandon something that has been so successful for a very long period of time?

Simple self interest. Hunter gatherer lifestyle is great in a good season. But in a bad season, small family groups can be wiped out by starvation. Agriculture isn't a guarantee against famine, of course, but having months of grain stored for the lean times is clearly preferable to having days of food stored if the season suddenly turns.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Simple self interest. Hunter gatherer lifestyle is great in a good season. But in a bad season, small family groups can be wiped out by starvation. Agriculture isn't a guarantee against famine, of course, but having months of grain stored for the lean times is clearly preferable to having days of food stored if the season suddenly turns.

And having a ready-stock of meat in the form of livestock (cows, sheep, etc) is beneficial in the long run, especially with the bonuses of leather and wool for clothing.

 

[Armoured]

And having a ready-stock of meat in the form of livestock (cows, sheep, etc) is beneficial in the long run, especially with the bonuses of leather and wool for clothing.

All of that. And having a steady, reliable supply of food gives people more time to specialise, innovate and experiment, which in turn leads to improvements to farming, thus supporting larger communities, thus supporting more specialising and innovation, etc. etc. The whole thing is quite iterative.

 

[Jimmy D]

If you studied the Neolithic revolution then you would know it confirms the Bible. They revolution takes place in stages and those stages are well defined in the Bible. As a dispensationalist I can explain to you how a day is 1000 years. So that this age we live in began around 13,000 years ago. That is when the ice was melting. The ocean was rising. At first the hunter gathers ............................................... Oh never mind, I am getting tired of going though this again and again and explaining it to people all over again.

I agree with you about the climate changing around that time which as afar as my understanding goes did change human lifestyle habits.

I just can't see how it ties in with Genesis though, I'm not trying to be awkward, maybe you could explain to me these historical stages and their parallels in the Bible.

 

[florida2]

If you studied the Neolithic revolution then you would know it confirms the Bible. They revolution takes place in stages and those stages are well defined in the Bible. As a dispensationalist I can explain to you how a day is 1000 years. So that this age we live in began around 13,000 years ago. That is when the ice was melting. The ocean was rising. At first the hunter gathers ............................................... Oh never mind, I am getting tired of going though this again and again and explaining it to people all over again.

The Neolithic revolution did not just occur in the Middle East as Jimmy D was saying.

Agriculture was developed independently in several areas around the world, including Africa, China, South America and North America. The Bible mentions none of that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Revolution#Agricultural_transition

 

[joshua 1 9]

The Neolithic revolution did not just occur in the Middle East as Jimmy D was saying.

Agriculture was developed independently in several areas around the world, including Africa, China, South America and North America. The Bible mentions none of that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Revolution#Agricultural_transition

According to your link: "The beginning of this process in different regions has been dated from 10,000 to 8,000 BC in the Fertile Crescent[3][8]" As I mentioned there are different Eden, and they have different types of plants. Still the beginning of agriculture was in the futile crescent. A lot of research has gone into how it all spread out from there. Esp animal husbandry, what evolutionists call selective breeding. The first recorded case of selective breeding is in the Bible. Where Jacob was taking care of his father in laws sheep along with his own. Because of a dispute with Laban, Jacob kept the healthy animals for himself and passed the lean and sick ones over to his father in law. The very first witting was on little pieces of clay tablets where they were keeping track of their inventory, how many animals they had and how many bushel of grains. Even they were writing down property lines. Of course the oldest written language was in ancient Mesopotamia. Even if the Hebrews were not the first.

 

[florida2]

According to your link: "The beginning of this process in different regions has been dated from 10,000 to 8,000 BC in the Fertile Crescent[3][8]" As I mentioned there are different Eden, and they have different types of plants.

So you think there were now multiple Gardens of Eden? Could it not just be that agriculture developed independently without you having to make more stuff up?

Still the beginning of agriculture was in the futile crescent.

That made me lol

A lot of research has gone into how it all spread out from there.

Yes it did spread, but not all agriculture comes from there. It was developed independently in places like China and the Americas as the link says.

Esp animal husbandry, what evolutionists call selective breeding.

It's called selective breeding because that's its name.

 

[joshua 1 9]

So you think there were now multiple Gardens of Eden?

Science tells us that there are many Edens in the world and in the Ocean. Any Biology book will give you the information on bio diverse ecosystems that make up the bio sphere. The Garden in Eden as you point out was to some degree unique because this is where selective breeding or artifical breeding began. They also call this husbandry. There is no record of marriage before Adam and Eve. Also the Bible gives us the first record of selective breeding.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

So you think there were now multiple Gardens of Eden? Could it not just be that agriculture developed independently without you having to make more stuff up?

Joshua-19 (I'm typing it like that to avoid an annoying permalink to the Bible chapter and verse) seems to use Eden in the colloquial sense, in that anywhere where there is extreme biodiversity is Eden. He often cites Africa as an example, which as a person who has an interest in Post-Cold War conflicts in Africa can tell you is... far from accurate, shall we say.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Science tells us that there are many Edens in the world and in the Ocean. Any Biology book will give you the information on bio diverse ecosystems that make up the bio sphere. The Garden in Eden as you point out was to some degree unique because this is where selective breeding or artifical breeding began. They also call this husbandry. There is no record of marriage before Adam and Eve. Also the Bible gives us the first record of selective breeding.

I would LOVE for you to show that the Garden of Eden as described in Genesis was the birth-place of animal husbandry. I really would.

 

[joshua 1 9]

So you think there were now multiple Gardens of Eden? Could it not just be that agriculture developed independently without you having to make more stuff up?

"Breasted popularized the term "Fertile Crescent"[3] to describe the archaeologically important area including parts of present-day Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine and Israel." My ancient history teacher in High School was from Germany. Germans did a lot of the archaeology work and Breasted was the first one to translate it into English.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I would LOVE for you to show that the Garden of Eden as described in Genesis was the birth-place of animal husbandry. I really would.

The location and the time line in the Bible lines up perfect with what Science is telling us. It's a match. The Bible is written history and written history is lining up with archaeology and the artifacts they are able to find.

 

[Armoured]

The location and the time line in the Bible lines up perfect with what Science is telling us. It's a match. The Bible is written history and written history is lining up with archaeology and the artifacts they are able to find.

what lines up with Biblical Eden?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The location and the time line in the Bible lines up perfect with what Science is telling us. It's a match. The Bible is written history and written history is lining up with archaeology and the artifacts they are able to find.

Show evidence that what you are saying is correct, or you're just making a baseless claim.

 

[joshua 1 9]

what lines up with Biblical Eden?

Science lines up with the Bible. What we read in the Bible lines up with what we read in the world history book. You know the History book that my son had assigned to him in High School. There is NO conflict between His public high school books and the Bible. Oh there is some debate but he does not much get into that. They talk about evolution vs creationism and stuff like that if he allows himself to get caught up into that discussion but for the most part he is to busy and does not have time for that.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Show evidence that what you are saying is correct, or you're just making a baseless claim.

No you show evidence it is NOT true. Show me where the Bible is in error or where it conflict with science or world history. You have the burden of proof here, not me.

 

[joshua 1 9]

what lines up with Biblical Eden?

The Bible lines up with the high school science books and the high school world history books. There is no conflict. One does not contradict the other. Anyone that knows anything at all about text books knows that they sanitize those books to remove any and all controversy. Everything is working just the way it is suppose to.

We just had an election and we just got two trouble makers thrown off of the school board. So actually I am beginning to think the system works. Now I know we have people in there that will do their best to get the job done right.