Oh man..... I cant stop laughing! All this projection of your own fault onto others are hilarious! You got to do this as a stand up comedian !
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We are all looking at the same evidence - really?
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Oh man..... I cant stop laughing! All this projection of your own fault onto others are hilarious! You got to do this as a stand up comedian !
Data this or data that.. What about facts? You know that kind of data that has gone through a quality control?
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I find the whole creation/evolution argument to be a waste of time. If you choose to accept Darwin as the prophet of your godless existence, go ahead. It is, quite literally no skin off my nose. As for the accusations that those who choose to believe in a creator must be dim-witted, I direct you to men such as Tolkien, CS Lewis and several members of NASA, as well as myself with a recorded IQ of 168. There is no conflict in believing in a creator and still finding the foundational structure of the universe fascinating while disputing there is any proof humans came from primordial globs of protoplasmic goo. The real question is, will you die and go to heaven, or not? If you refuse to accept the fact of Jesus as Lord and Savior, probably not.
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Who accepts Darwin as a prophet?
We are accusing you of ignoring the evidence in order to protect your religious beliefs. We will gladly agree that smart people can be a victim of this as easily as dumb people.
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No we are not, and you should start to look at the facts instead of your "data".
Do you know what a therapsid and a cynodont is? If you don't, start check it out so you don't miss any "data".
Therapsids are mammal like reptiles that runs around on four legs in the same fashion mammals does. Cynodonts are fluffy therapsids with whiskers like mammalians. But hey! They all lay egg eggs! Cynodonts are confusing alike mammals, but they are not mammals. Cynodonts are fluffy reptiles with whiskers!
To make it easy for a creationist to understand what I am talking about I have created this pedagogic illustration:
Cynodonts are micro evolved therapsids.... And before you object, to the picture, yes mammals are - per definition - both therapsids and cynodonts. Because mammals are micorevolved cynodonts.
That is basically all you need to know about therapsids vs cynodonts vs mammals for now. Becasue my point is; did you know kittens are cynodonts? Do you know that all mammals are cynodonts? Did you know this "data"?
If not, how much else do you not know?
I guess you mean the bible, sorry, your science book. [I am trying really hard to keep a straight face now]
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And yet you can name nothing else that did this except in your Fairie Dust. What you call Chinook are direct descendants of Husky and Mastiff. The Husky and Mastiff did not become Chinook. The Husky still remains a Husky - the Mastiff a Mastiff.
When an Asian mates with an African there is change - until then the Asian will always remain Asian - the African African. Just stop ignoring the observational evidence and pretend it happened any other way in the past.
I will ask again: Show me one Husky, Asian, African, Bottle-nosed dolphin, finch, or _____________________ (insert name of animal or race) that changed without mating with another infraspecific taxa within it's same species.
I hear you all make claims about the past - yet you can't even get it right in the here and now.
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Chimps and humans share a common ancestor. That's your second example.
Asians are directly descended from Africans.
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Seriously? You use the infographic you do and then imply that I'm the one making "general sweeping statements"? Pot calling the kettle black, I think. Your entire infographic was a Strawman. Every part of it was a cartoonish representation of the Christian's perspective.
Selah.
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People who do not believe in evolution believe that way because they take a fundamentalist reading of genesis rather than an allegorical reading.
High IQ has nothing to do with belief. Belief usually comes from indoctrination into religion from a very early age. Sometimes it comes about from a traumatic event in a person's life. It seldom, if ever, comes about as the result an honest study of the reality of man and nature.
For what it's worth, I became an atheist long before I ever heard of Darwin.
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I believe in evolution, but I don't believe in evolution. The reason I believe in evolution is because of the scientific method. The reason I don't believe in evolution is because of the scientific method.
There's evolution and then there's evolution.
That's quite a wide sweep of the brush with a healthy dose of self righteousness. You sound like a religious person.
For what it's worth, I became a Christian because of personal interaction with Christ.
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The reason you do not believe in evolution, as defined by science, not as defined by you, is that you take a literal reading of genesis. For some reason you are hesitant to admit that.
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Notice I said "evolution, as defined by science, not as defined by you,"
Notice you ignored " you take a literal reading of genesis. For some reason you are hesitant to admit that."
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there is one other very important point about this that isn't being said.
and that is "a jury of peers"
laymen can hardly be called "peers" in scientific matters.
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Nice try at a stretch.
It is more correct to...
- Equate jury with people
- Equate scientists with lawyers and expert witnesses
If you expect jurors to understand the concepts put forward by lawyers and expert witnesses then you should expect people to understand the concepts put forward by scientists.
In neither case...if you don't like the evidence, you disregard it.
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Notice, I said I believe in evolution but I don't believe in evolution. Now, as far as "evolution as defined by science", why not actually define it within parameters? "Evolution as defined by science" is vague.
You seem to be placing your faith in the unseen realm of Darwinist evolution.
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I'm sorry if I missed it, but I don't understand where you believe these variations came from in the first place. If these Asians always remain Asians where did the first ones come from?
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