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Chimp and human species look nothing alike

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I have thought about the way in which I posed this question ____ over time (); my thought ____ ____ now is that, there is obviously some correlation as a lesser precept ____ ____ ____ between what gorillas at best refuse to think about ____ ____ ____ ____ and men at worst, think about for any other reason ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ than relationship with ____ ____ ____ compelling ____ ____ (that was already in the heart - to act ___ on (when ____ ____ ____ God -- was believed ---)).

Possibly, it is simply that ___ believing oneself clothed as animals were ___ ___ one should deliver the cross one had ___ ___ ___ to a lesser madness and ____ to some extent trusting ____ ____ that all diseases are knowable - most should commit to facilitating a lesser prayer for healing (over ___ time ___) that is not deniable ___ ___ ___ even by a memory of ___ ___ truth ___ ___.

In other words, at some point, animals will eat the corrupt (prayer to escape their most desperate hour ___ more often than not ___ ___ being more than enough).
Multiple games of hangman?
 
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Come on Goonie, you're from the UK, it's obviously Blankety Blank.
From Wiki:
Blankety Blank (later called Lily Savage's Blankety Blank) was a British comedy game show based on the 1977–79 Australian game show Blankety Blanks (which was in turn based on the American game show Match Game).​

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To save others the trouble of Googling
 
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I see no heart snd soul here. Lots of animals have eyes, legs, etc. That is not what makes a man.

How can you 'see' a soul? The subject of the OP including the title was claiming that humans and chimps look nothing alike. The presence or absence of a claimed immortal soul does not change what something looks like.
 
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Dogs have been coevolving with us for a very long time. They are obviously much more distant from us than chimps are,
I disagree. The standards used to declare closeness or distance are bogus. They dwell in the area of superficial physical only traits of the present state. Look deeper.
While chimps are genetically very close to human, behaviorally they are very wild.
Nothing like us then. Got it.


But you see remarkable things in them, that show human-like behavior.
No. I don't.

They are capable of inferring mental states in others, which few other animals can do.
o what? I used to be nervous of horses. They seemed to infer that pretty good.

They make tools, planning ahead for their use.
So what, ants make cities! Bees too. Even prairie rats.
They show loyalty to family,
Hey who doesn't?? Stick your finger in a bee hive and see if the bees are loyal to their family or you.

and live much as primitive humans did for most of our history,
False. Never happened. The cave men were highly intelligent post flood folks, or descendants moving around for the most part, probably. Cave art was likely kids passing time in the rock tent..etc.
as small bands, hostile to all others.
No news there. Welcome to planet earth.


Chimps are no more monkeys than we are.
Technical terms aside, monkeys is a good general word for apes.
 
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How can you 'see' a soul?
By seeing some depth of character, or some trait that is commendable.
The subject of the OP including the title was claiming that humans and chimps look nothing alike. The presence or absence of a claimed immortal soul does not change what something looks like.
You think the junk dna is alike? You think you look like a chimp? Sorry, but superficial physical supposed similarities don't amount to a hill of beans.
 
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Show me a picture of the human soul.
I think I used the term soul in relation to some animals differently than the common notion of man's 'soul'.
Also, chimps do have hearts, in case you were curious.
Not so much so in the proverbial sense I meant is, as some other creatures.
 
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By seeing some depth of character, or some trait that is commendable.

IOW, things that don't really exist.

You think the junk dna is alike? You think you look like a chimp? Sorry, but superficial physical supposed similarities don't amount to a hill of beans.

Please explain why evolution would not produce species that look similar to one another.
 
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We will look when you present evidence for the end of the present state.
The end? Maybe you mean beginning? Have you any evidence for that? Let me guess we all need to just believe it was always here?
 
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IOW, things that don't really exist.
How many times do we hear about a chimp saving his master or rescuing another chimp etc? How often do we see chimps working hard as ants and building cities? Finger in armpit grunting just doesn't cut it.

Please explain why evolution would not produce species that look similar to one another.
Why set up a strawman and then expect everyone to reverence it?
 
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There is only one observed state, the one we are in.
No. Noah and Adam observed another. If you mean science, they are a recent manifestation of man's wisdom. They are denizens of this state only. What else could they observe!?

If you can't show where it ends, then you can't claim that the past was different.
The bible shows where it starts and ends. Science is like a bat flying around a house bumping into walls.
 
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No. Noah and Adam observed another.

Evidence please.

If you mean science, they are a recent manifestation of man's wisdom. They are denizens of this state only. What else could they observe!?

What evidence are they ignoring? Where is the evidence for the end of the present state?

The bible shows where it starts and ends.

That would be a claim. Where is the evidence?
 
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Evidence please.



What evidence are they ignoring? Where is the evidence for the end of the present state?



That would be a claim. Where is the evidence?
Looks like you are in one of your little loops here. Why obsess over the inabilty of science to know what laws were here?

On topic, I noticed an article that says about half the junk dna in humans and chimps is different! Isn't that close to what a potato is!?
 
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Looks like you are in one of your little loops here. Why obsess over the inabilty of science to know what laws were here?

Why would science be incapable of doing that?

On topic, I noticed an article that says about half the junk dna in humans and chimps is different!

I didn't notice a reference to that article. I am calling bovine excrement on that one.
 
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By seeing some depth of character, or some trait that is commendable.

I see that in animals. E.g. that example of the woman who had a heart attack (JoAnn Altsman) and her daughter's pet pig went off to get help. Here are 25 hero dogs. http://www.dogguide.net/25-hero-dogs.php Animals can demonstrate devotion, comfort owners during time of stress (Danielle Jacobs) etc. I see some depth of character and commendable traits in animals.

You think you look like a chimp? Sorry, but superficial physical supposed similarities don't amount to a hill of beans.

I don't think the similarities are superficial. If we dissect a chimp and a human side by side, I predict that the similarities between humans and chimps will be even more than if we just compare them superficially. Skeleton, muscles, cardiovascular system, organs.
 
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