What Would Evidence for God's Existence Be Like?

[Davian]

Our deity is real, that you don't understand that is your own shortcoming......man with FSM logo, an invented deity!

In what way are they all not invented?

 

[Davian]

That's what atheist do, they pick an issue that is very subjective so when a religious person cant meet this demand for undeniable proof,

I am skeptical of unfalsifiable, unevidenced claims, be they of gods, fairies, extraterrestrial aliens on Earth, or Bermuda triangles. Do not think that you have been singled out.

I do not ask you for "undeniable proof", but you seem to have nothing that might demonstrate that gods are not simply products of the imagination.

they use this as proof of their contentions.

Absence of evidence *is* evidence of absence, where one should expect evidence.

This takes a very shallow sort of person, someone who is not aware of this may not realize what's happening.

Insulting those that you disagree with will not change their position.

 

[Colter]

I'm not sure I know of any group that likes blanket labels, bald assertions and all.

So again, where did you get your mind reading skills?

Its not complicated, Atheist joins Christian forum, pics at the faithful. We aren't talking about the nuances of post war French existentialism.

 

[variant]

Its not complicated, Atheist joins Christian forum, pics at the faithful. We aren't talking about the nuances of post war French existentialism.

Ah, argument via persecution complex. Neat.

 

[Colter]

Atheists consider theists claims as unsubstantiated. When you cannot substantiate your claims, you simply concede this point. Your constant repetition that your claims are objectively true is simply another internal contradiction in your worldview.

You have nothing to offer: no wisdom, no truth, no beauty, no knowledge.

All you can do is to villify those who disagree with your claims.


If I was a theist, I might connect this behaviour with Lucifer in some way. As I am an atheist, I can only hold you personally responsible for that.

Neither can Atheist substantiate their claims of a Godless universe. Your assessment that I don't have anything to offer is based on the false premise that your mind's opinion is somehow the standard bearer.

You poor dear, you provoke responses then feel sorry for yourself when called out for it.

 

[Colter]

In what way are they all not invented?

It takes a person of extraordinary arrogance to claim that the billions of people who have had and are having a spiritual connection with what they call God is really just a persons imagination.

 

[bhsmte]

It takes a person of extraordinary arrogance to claim that the billions of people who have had and are having a spiritual connection with what they call God is really just a persons imagination.

Not really.

It just takes the reality, that a God concept is thrust on most children early in life, depending on the culture they grow up in. They hear the bad things that will happen if they don't believe and the carrot of eternal life if they do believe.

Can be quite powerful to any child and even adults, especially if the adult has a mind to need to feel someone is watching over them.

Now, one thing that is clear, is more and more people on this earth, have chosen to not believe in a God and those numbers are growing. Likely from acquired knowledge that obtained, that made the stories quite difficult to reconcile.

 

[Colter]

Ah, argument via persecution complex. Neat.

It's not a complex when it's really happening. Atheist pounce on people on these threads, but then get all like "what, who me,???? I was just minding my own business (on the Christian forum) when all of a sudden some guy gets all subjective and so I'm like "well, you gotta prove that unprovable experience" bla bla bla!...."man he must have some sort of complex or something.....weird man!?!?!?

 

[Freodin]

Neither can Atheist substantiate their claims of a Godless universe.

Oh, but they can! Every time that theists disagree, it is evidence that at least part of their claims are false. Every time a theist chides reason, rejects evidence, relies on "subjectivity"... or starts to insult others... it is evidence that his claims are false.

Your assessment that I don't have anything to offer is based on the false premise that your mind's opinion is somehow the standard bearer.

My assessment is based on the fact that you don't offer anything but insults.

You poor dear, you provoke responses then feel sorry for yourself when called out for it.

Well, you are at least partially correct here. I do provoke responses, but contrary to what your mind-reading skills might tell you, I am quite amused that I provoke exactly the responses I think I would get. You are just too predictable.

 

[Loudmouth]

Atheist are, in a spiritual sense, ignorant as to what is happening to them and where their doctrines of doubt come from beyond their own egotistical ruminations. It's the bubble of a fools universe.

You are inventing the spiritual realm from whole cloth. Again, you are the one making stuff up.

 

[Loudmouth]

Our deity is real, that you don't understand that is your own shortcoming......man with FSM logo, an invented deity!

Once again, a post devoid of evidence and full of empty assertions.

You are the one inventing fantasies.

 

[Colter]

Not really.

It just takes the reality, that a God concept is thrust on most children early in life, depending on the culture they grow up in. They hear the bad things that will happen if they don't believe and the carrot of eternal life if they do believe.

Can be quite powerful to any child and even adults, especially if the adult has a mind to need to feel someone is watching over them.

Now, one thing that is clear, is more and more people on this earth, have chosen to not believe in a God and those numbers are growing. Likely from acquired knowledge that obtained, that made the stories quite difficult to reconcile.

For me, half the stuff I heard in church was stupid! I could see things didn't square, but science just speeds up the mortality of false God concepts, false histories. What emerges is the true God of the spirit.

North Korea and other Atheist utopias are going really well. You thinks imperfect religion is bad? Wait until you eliminate the fabric of civilized society then get back to us.

 

[Loudmouth]

Atheist hate being generalized, but as it terns out, non-conformist are all alike, and that just makes them all the more angry people!

Atheists don't like being (literally) demonized. The reason that atheists come to christian sites like these is because christians are the main source of discrimination against atheists in western culture. Your posts are a good example of the source material that christians use against atheists.

 

[Freodin]

It takes a person of extraordinary arrogance to claim that the billions of people who have had and are having a spiritual connection with what they call God is really just a persons imagination.

We are equal-opportunity arrogant claiments. We base our assertion on the experience that people can and do indeed imagine things.

You on the other hand are one of those, erm, extraordinary arrogant people who claim that billions of people are having an incorrect spiritual connection, while yours is correct.


Edited to add, just to prove my point:

For me, half the stuff I heard in church was stupid! I could see things didn't square, but science just speeds up the mortality of false God concepts, false histories. What emerges is the true God of the spirit.

 

[Eight Foot Manchild]

In other words, I hit a nerve

In other words, you are extremely typical among supernaturalists.

and you just make stuff up.

Your entire worldview is predicated on imagination. Your 'truth' exists nowhere outside your own skull. It is rather amusing of you to accuse other people of 'making stuff up'.

Which I didn't. I can very easily demonstrate everything I said, using your own words, as can anyone with basic reasoning skills and the ability to read. Your hilarious naked assertions regarding 'Luciferian atheism', or your abysmal ignorance of North Korea, for example, are just a few among a great many.

You do not, in point of fact, have the slightest clue what you're talking about. What are you going to do about that?

 

[Loudmouth]

For me, half the stuff I heard in church was stupid! I could see things didn't square, but science just speeds up the mortality of false God concepts, false histories. What emerges is the true God of the spirit.

North Korea and other Atheist utopias are going really well. You thinks imperfect religion is bad? Wait until you eliminate the fabric of civilized society then get back to us.

More examples of the type of source material used to discriminate against atheists.

Atheism does not call for the starvation of populations, or totalitarianism. Perhaps you could try telling the truth?

 

[Colter]

Once again, a post devoid of evidence and full of empty assertions.

You are the one inventing fantasies.

See, the accuser, they think they are onto something.

 

[Colter]

We are equal-opportunity arrogant claiments. We base our assertion on the experience that people can and do indeed imagine things.

You on the other hand are one of those, erm, extraordinary arrogant people who claim that billions of people are having an incorrect spiritual connection, while yours is correct.


Edited to add, just to prove my point:

I've never claimed that my experience with god is the only right one, One God many paths. You got that out of the old worn out Atheist play book. You guys need new material.

 

[Freodin]

I've never claimed that my experience with god is the only right one, One God many paths. You got that out of the old worn out Atheist play book. You guys need new material.

I could see things didn't square, but science just speeds up the mortality of false God concepts, false histories. What emerges is the true God of the spirit.

I don't need atheist play books when I have your own posts.

 

[Loudmouth]

See, the accuser, they think they are onto something.

I am accusing you of making stuff up. Can you show that I am wrong?

Are we not allowed to point out when someone is making stuff up?