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Eyewitness testimony, especially when it is from way back in the past, is some of the least reliable evidence for anything you can get.
What if said eyewitnesses were then martyred? would their blood count?

What if a major superpower from that era invests a large portion of its capital in suppressing said testimony? would their efforts count?

What if this started a chain reaction throughout history of sayers vs. nay sayers? would that count for anything?
 
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What if said eyewitnesses were then martyred? would their blood count?

What if a major superpower from that era invests a large portion of its capital in suppressing said testimony? would their efforts count?

What if this started a chain reaction throughout history of sayers vs. nay sayers? would that count for anything?

Look, when a supposed event only has one source to back it up, and it is pure eyewitness testimony in which one cannot even face the witness, it is worthless.

Their blood? As if we can tell whose blood it was with nothing to compare it to, even if blood that old hadn't decayed beyond recognition.
 
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Look, when a supposed event only has one source to back it up, and it is pure eyewitness testimony in which one cannot even face the witness, it is worthless.

Their blood? As if we can tell whose blood it was with nothing to compare it to, even if blood that old hadn't decayed beyond recognition.
How sad.

I think an appropriate picture that would explain a lot would be:

A scientist standing in front of the Flavian Amphitheatre, burning a Bible.

That would say it all.
 
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How sad.

I think an appropriate picture that would explain a lot would be:

A scientist standing in front of the Flavian Amphitheatre, burning a Bible.

That would say it all.

Um, no, that would not be appropriate. I don't condone book burning, especially not of religious texts or academic texts.

That one book that sexist lady wrote on how girls in college should ignore their studies and use the time to "marry well" on the other hand... nah, I'd just recycle that, maybe it will get lucky and be remade into a college textbook.
 
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How sad.

I think an appropriate picture that would explain a lot would be:

A scientist standing in front of the Flavian Amphitheatre, burning a Bible.

That would say it all.
Um, no, that would not be appropriate. I don't condone book burning, especially not of religious texts or academic texts.
Thanks for the caption for my picture.

Just for the record, it's the book burning that you don't condone ... right?

Nevermind what the Colosseum stood for?
 
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What if said eyewitnesses were then martyred? would their blood count?

All that shows is what I've been saying for a while -- people are worth more dead than alive to you guys.

What if a major superpower from that era invests a large portion of its capital in suppressing said testimony? would their efforts count?

Christians go to great lengths to surpress evolution in schools -- all that counts for is failure.

What if this started a chain reaction throughout history of sayers vs. nay sayers? would that count for anything?

Only if truth were determined by a popularity contest.
 
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Thanks for the caption for my picture.

Just for the record, it's the book burning that you don't condone ... right?

Nevermind what the Colosseum stood for?

To be frankly honest, I had never heard of the place that you mentioned in that post.
 
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All that shows is what I've been saying for a while -- people are worth more dead than alive to you guys.
Now I know what Saul of Tarsus said to the horrified onlookers at Stephen's martyrdom, just before he turned and walked away.

(Word for word.)
 
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To be frankly honest, I had never heard of the place that you mentioned in that post.
The scientist in my picture would.

After all, his predecessors helped build it.
 
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Ok then, I don't condone killing for entertainment or religious reasons either. I will comment that many saints had very interesting lives and deaths though. Then again, they wouldn't be considered exceptional people if they didn't have exceptional lives and/or deaths.
 
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Thanks for the caption for my picture.

Just for the record, it's the book burning that you don't condone ... right?

Nevermind what the Colosseum stood for?

I would not condone book burning regardless of the location. I would be opposed to book burning in a nazi concentration camp or in the Vatican. I would oppose it in a box, I would oppose it with a fox. I would oppose it in a house, I would oppose it with a mouse.

I understand you don't like strong's concordance. Would you also oppose it at the scene of a MURDER!
 
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I would not condone book burning regardless of the location. I would be opposed to book burning in a nazi concentration camp or in the Vatican. I would oppose it in a box, I would oppose it with a fox. I would oppose it in a house, I would oppose it with a mouse.

I understand you don't like strong's concordance. Would you also oppose it at the scene of a MURDER!

^_^ Awesome
 
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Well then, take some parts of the evolution theory then that are supported only by similarities. Yet are touted by scientists and others here on this forum as being solid fact.

The creationist would contend that ID theory or creationism has direct eyewitness evidence, direct from the creating force. (As well as scientific evidence.) It would be like me being the sole witness to a car crash. You could try to recreate what happened and get some of it right but my report would be the most accurate, combined with the aftermath evidence.

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Eyewitness testimony, especially when it is from way back in the past, is some of the least reliable evidence for anything you can get. And you can't even prove that eyewitnesses to any biblical even wrote in the bible, and only one book of the bible is a decent candidate for that claim (in a ghost writing sort of way), so you don't actually have even eyewitness testimony.

You do realize that the bible (a lot of separate books, by many different authors, from different time periods and professions) is considered to be written direct from God, through those men, using their respective style? Sort of like many instances of divine revelation.

So basically God would be the main eyewitness. Which would make it the most reliable evidence possible. Even excluding that it was God, what I find written in the books of the bible is nothing short of miraculous.
 
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You do realize that the bible (a lot of separate books, by many different authors, from different time periods and professions) is considered to be written direct from God, through those men, using their respective style? Sort of like many instances of divine revelation.

According to what? Where does the idea that the Bible was written direct from God come from?

So basically God would be the main eyewitness.

Again, according to what? Where do you get the idea that God is the main eyewitness?
 
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