What have you understood about the charcater of The Ten Commandments?? (2)

[GenemZ]

You know you are being ridiculous here? If you are going down that road I suggest you forget the bible all together.
We know that you have come to a truth that you can not deny and instead of accepting the truth you try to evade it. Calm down, it is God's word and truth accept it.

Just answer my question.


YOU DO NOT HAVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IN STONE TODAY. MEN HAD TO COPY IT... ARE YOU SURE YOU REALLY HAVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS? YOU CAN NOT BE SURE. MAYBE THERE WAS ONLY NINE ON THE ORIGINAL. MAYBE, ONLY EIGHT. DID MAN ADD TO IT?


Why did I say that?

Your claim was that the TC's were written in stone by God Himself. That the Bible was written by men. Correct?

Well then? How did we end up with what the TC's contained in the Bible? The words had to be written by the hands of men to get them into the Torah! So, unless you have the stone tablets? You can not verify (according to your logic) if you actually have what was written on the stones. Why? Because, your claim impugned God's ability to preserve his actual thought when He used men to write Torah!

Therefore, by default of your argument .. Since what was written by God on the Tablets had to be later transferred by men to the written page? What you read about the TC's is no more valid than the rest of the Bible! Why? For men wrote it all down! It may not be as valid as what God wrote directly in stone.

You do not know God as you should. You confuse Him too much with being a man. If God wants His Word recorded by men - with perfect accuracy - in the original languages? To think otherwise? Is to have a head of stone.

 

[Elder 111]

Welcome to the Millennial reign of Christ! Israel will once again be the people of God on earth.

Never in a million years.

 

[Elder 111]

Abraham was saved by believing in the Lord. He did not have the Ten Commandments.

How can keeping the Ten Commandments entitle you access to Heaven? How does it grant you the righteousness that God demands for such access?

So I could steal and lie and have idols then?

 

[GenemZ]

So I could steal and lie and have idols then?

Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5, stole and lied. They are now in Heaven.

You really are devoid of understanding what the Cross has done for us. You still believe you are going to be saved if you are a good little boy. Might as well have not gone to the Cross! Jesus should have just said... Obey all the Law and you will be saved. Bye! See you in Heaven!

You need to have a fresh start with salvation. You are lost.

 

[GenemZ]

Never in a million years.

Of course... The Millennial reign of Christ will only be a thousand years. With the Jews once again being God's spiritual big brother of the world. The Church age was an interruption of the age of the Jews, so that God could gather His Royal Family together to reign with Him on earth.

The Jews will be returned to the status of being the superior race amongst men. Just like satanically inspired Hitler in envy wanted to replace with a counterfeit superior race of the German people.

Zechariah 8:20-23

This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Many peoples and the inhabitants
of many cities will yet come, and the inhabitants of one city will go to
another and say, ‘Let us go at once to entreat the Lord and seek the
Lord Almighty. I myself am going.’ And many peoples and powerful
nations will come to Jerusalem to seek the Lord Almighty and to entreat him.”

This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten people from all
languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his
robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’”


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There you have it. Now go lick your wounds.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Elder 111

What does Jeremiah 31 say that negates that?

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord,I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
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Originally Posted by genez

Welcome to the Millennial reign of Christ! Israel will once again be the people of God on earth.​

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Originally Posted by Elder 111

Never in a million years.​

Of course... The Millennial reign of Christ will only be a thousand years. With the Jews once again being God's spiritual big brother of the world.

The Church age was an interruption of the age of the Jews, so that God could gather His Royal Family together to reign with Him on earth.

The Jews will be returned to the status of being the superior race amongst men. Just like satanically inspired Hitler in envy wanted to replace with a counterfeit superior race of the German people.

There you have it. Now go lick your wounds.

That is dispensationalist hogwash........

Dispensationalism
http://www.graceonlinelibrary.org/tag/evaluating-premillennialism/

Evaluating Premillennialism

No evaluation of Dispensational Premillennialism may ignore its teaching of a two-phased return of Christ, the first phase of which is commonly known as the rapture. This feature is its most widely known aspect. Popularized by such best-selling books as Hal Lindsey’s The Late Great Planet Earth, the film The Return,.........................................


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[bugkiller]

So I could steal and lie and have idols then?

Never say uncle.

bugkiller

 

[Godisgood12]

Never say uncle.

So bugkiller bows to the fact he doesn't want it done to himself. Progress.

 

[Godisgood12]

That is dispensationalist hogwash........

hogwash, hehe. I've drove by cattle farms and witnessed them just as dirty as pigs. Wallowing in their own filth before their slaughter.

 

[Godisgood12]

Who treats life like trash?

 

[VictorC]

Are you also saying that those of the "old covenant" are not and can not be saved?

No, not me. That's what Paul wrote, whose epistles Peter equated with Scripture (2 Peter 3:15-16)

That if I keep God holy Ten Commandments I will not be save?

You're calling God a liar, "For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all" - and you're not even among the "them" who received the old covenant God concluded all disobedient to (Romans 11:32). Besides, you're already on record as plainly responding with "NO" to keeping God's sabbaths.

That if I obey the very first one,

In your last post it was the first Words from God's mouth you discarded!

that is to worship God only, I will be denied the pleasure and privilege of worshiping Him forever?

Yup!
It goes without saying that when you reject eternal life with the Heir, you aren't going to be doing anything "forever".

Please explain why you 'spiritualized' God's decree to make it void. That alone shows contempt for His Word.

 

[GenemZ]

Please explain why you 'spiritualized' God's decree to make it void. That alone shows contempt for His Word.

He can not reason like you can. He does not know what he is doing. Just like Paul thought he was doing God's work when he was persecuting the Church. You can not expect him to reason this through. He needs to be knocked off his high horse by God, just like Paul. That is... If he is one that God knows will believe.

 

[from scratch]

hogwash, hehe. I've drove by cattle farms and witnessed them just as dirty as pigs. Wallowing in their own filth before their slaughter.

Would that be slaughter houses and not cattle farms?

 

[Godisgood12]

Would that be slaughter houses and not cattle farms?

Ah man, I think all was made for man. But sometimes I can't imagine a division between whether pig is filthy and all other meat. I enjoy it all. I hope we can all become vegatarians one day though.

 

[GenemZ]

We all came out of Spiritual Egypt, but most of all the Lord IS MY GOD.

Jesus Christ is your God then. For there is only One Lord. and, there is only One Father.

 

[Elder 111]

Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5, stole and lied. They are now in Heaven.

You really are devoid of understanding what the Cross has done for us. You still believe you are going to be saved if you are a good little boy. Might as well have not gone to the Cross! Jesus should have just said... Obey all the Law and you will be saved. Bye! See you in Heaven!

You need to have a fresh start with salvation. You are lost.

You really did not answer the question.
Let me put it this way. If I as a Christian, led by the Holy Spirit, should not steal, lie or commit adultery, Is that not of the Ten Commandments? Does not the first Commandment say to worship God only? How can doing so lead me to hell?

 

[Elder 111]

Abraham was saved by believing in the Lord. He did not have the Ten Commandments.

How can keeping the Ten Commandments entitle you access to Heaven? How does it grant you the righteousness that God demands for such access?

Jesus always would says "go and sin no more". Obeying the Ten Commandments is not about gaining access to Heaven, it is about going and sinning no more.

 

[Gottservant]

Jesus always would says "go and sin no more". Obeying the Ten Commandments is not about gaining access to Heaven, it is about going and sinning no more.

Word.

The Church has lost its original conviction because it desired to possess grace that was not its but God's.

If you want to know what you have as a believer, YOU HAVE THE LAW.

 

[Elder 111]

Just answer my question.


YOU DO NOT HAVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IN STONE TODAY. MEN HAD TO COPY IT... ARE YOU SURE YOU REALLY HAVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS? YOU CAN NOT BE SURE. MAYBE THERE WAS ONLY NINE ON THE ORIGINAL. MAYBE, ONLY EIGHT. DID MAN ADD TO IT?


Why did I say that?

Your claim was that the TC's were written in stone by God Himself. That the Bible was written by men. Correct?

Well then? How did we end up with what the TC's contained in the Bible? The words had to be written by the hands of men to get them into the Torah! So, unless you have the stone tablets? You can not verify (according to your logic) if you actually have what was written on the stones. Why? Because, your claim impugned God's ability to preserve his actual thought when He used men to write Torah!

Therefore, by default of your argument .. Since what was written by God on the Tablets had to be later transferred by men to the written page? What you read about the TC's is no more valid than the rest of the Bible! Why? For men wrote it all down! It may not be as valid as what God wrote directly in stone.

You do not know God as you should. You confuse Him too much with being a man. If God wants His Word recorded by men - with perfect accuracy - in the original languages? To think otherwise? Is to have a head of stone.

This is nowhere near what I said. For that this could only be the work of the enemy.

It is not that at all. God inspired the writing of the bible. Men were moved by the Holy Spirit to convey God's messages but when it came to the Ten commandments God spoke it Himself first and then He wrote it Himself. After Moses broke it, it would have been easy for God to tell Moses to rewrite it but yet He did not. That clearly shows How God regarded the Ten Commandments. There is an absolute difference, separation.
God did not treat the Ten Commandments ordinarily why should we? It is not common or equal with the rest of the law.
Why would a boss want to do Something himself? It is too important to do otherwise!

 

[Elder 111]

Of course... The Millennial reign of Christ will only be a thousand years. With the Jews once again being God's spiritual big brother of the world. The Church age was an interruption of the age of the Jews, so that God could gather His Royal Family together to reign with Him on earth.

The Jews will be returned to the status of being the superior race amongst men. Just like satanically inspired Hitler in envy wanted to replace with a counterfeit superior race of the German people.

Zechariah 8:20-23

This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Many peoples and the inhabitants
of many cities will yet come, and the inhabitants of one city will go to
another and say, ‘Let us go at once to entreat the Lord and seek the
Lord Almighty. I myself am going.’ And many peoples and powerful
nations will come to Jerusalem to seek the Lord Almighty and to entreat him.”

This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten people from all
languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his
robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’”


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There you have it. Now go lick your wounds.

I am sorry but again you miss the mark. Be careful, you seem not to speak with humble spirit, as thought you know it all. That can never be the case with any of us.
Acts 15:
14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
15And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
16After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
Who Doeth, not will do. Under the Holy Spirit the disciples declared the prophecy fulfilled. It is not about physically rebuilding Jerusalem but of the Gentiles accepting the gospel.