Dear George Zimmerman

[Bedford]

So, a car isn't a deadly weapon?

What is your solution? Is it to ban guns?

Here we go the the banning of guns accusations


I see you have run out of new material, so enjoy the rest of the day.

 

[bhsmte]

Then why even bother to respond to a question "it was how white people rushed to their hero and supported him and even paid for his attorney." with a remark about black people which is equally as difficult to prove?

White people did rush to their hero and supported him and even paid for his attorney, unless you have evidence (or are arguing) that none of the donors were white.

Don't twist what I said and I can respond to any post I choose to.

Can you give me a reason (or evidence) to conclude that it is impossible that any black people donated to Zimmerman's defense fund?

 

[bhsmte]

Here we go the the banning of guns accusations


I see you have run out of new material, so enjoy the rest of the day.

Yep, see ya.

 

[MachZer0]

The Matthew Filipowicz Show » Blog Archive » Episode 237 with Mychal Denzel Smith and Victoria Law

In this interview, Mychal Denzel Smith attests Martin had reason to defend himself. Zimmerman did not follow protcol, not at all. Others with more responsibility would have have possibly been suspended for similar actions. Zimmerman chose not to follow protocol; he had an agenda.

It has circulated that Trayvon wanted to be a pilot. Not a bad goal to have at all.

That does not change the fact that having once retreated, Martin became a stalker which means he had no right to stand his ground since he was the agressor

 

[MachZer0]

Life threatening head injuries are called “life threatening” because some people die from them.

Simply put, the EMS and police should have insisted on him going, if they really thought he was hurt badly. And they have ZERO reasons for not asking him to go and submit to examination and forensic testing.

Life threatening injuries are not at issue. Self defense is a matter of preventing life threatening injuries. As we see, it works quite well

 

[Bedford]

Don't twist what I said and I can respond to any post I choose to.
Can you give me a reason (or evidence) to conclude that it is impossible that any black people donated to Zimmerman's defense fund?

You saw the word "white" and became blinded by race into thinking that Anviel must be saying that no black person supported Zimmerman.


Anviel, nor I ever said that no black people supported Zimmerman. You are the one twisting words.

 

[bhsmte]

You saw the word "white" and became blinded by race into thinking that Anviel must be saying that no black person supported Zimmerman.


Anviel, nor I ever said that no black people supported Zimmerman. You are the one twisting words.

I was blinded by race? I was not the one who claimed white people came running to support their hero.

I simply pointed out, it is possible black people also supported Zimmerman.

You see, this should be about evidence, facts and logic and I believe all races are capable of using the same.

 

[Swim411]

Life threatening injuries are not at issue. Self defense is a matter of preventing life threatening injuries. As we see, it works quite well

I think you are making a wonderful case for why people with your position shouldn't prevail in making and enforcing our laws. Some of us want to live in a civilized society where vigilantes can't get away with murder.

So keep talking.

 

[Avniel]

Just for the record, my post made no mention of anyone's skin color

you never answered my question.

 

[wintermile]

That does not change the fact that having once retreated, Martin became a stalker which means he had no right to stand his ground since he was the agressor

Some state it is unclear if Martin retreated. It is speculative to state Martin was an aggressor. Zimmerman stated he forgot he was carrying his weapon. That weapon that Zimmerman forgot was on him, was used against Martin who had no idea Zimmerman was carrying it. Only Zimmerman's DNA was confirmed to be on the weapon and gun holster. Zimmerman's dishonesty is clear.

 

[Avniel]

Some state it is unclear if Martin retreated. It is speculative to state Martin was an aggressor. Zimmerman stated he forgot he was carrying his weapon. That weapon that Zimmerman forgot was on him, was used against Martin who had no idea Zimmerman was carrying it. Only Zimmerman's DNA was confirmed to be on the weapon and gun holster. Zimmerman's dishonesty is clear.

Not just that but was the gun on safety, was it cocked.....if he forgot he was carrying a firearm why was the firearm ready to go?

 

[bhsmte]

Some state it is unclear if Martin retreated. It is speculative to state Martin was an aggressor. Zimmerman stated he forgot he was carrying his weapon. That weapon that Zimmerman forgot was on him, was used against Martin who had no idea Zimmerman was carrying it. Only Zimmerman's DNA was confirmed to be on the weapon and gun holster. Zimmerman's dishonesty is clear.

dishonest how? Because Martin's DNA was not on the weapon? Can someone reach for it and not touch it?

On the retreated piece, Martin's phone call indicated he was right by were he was staying a few minutes before the shooting occurred, yet he somehow got back to the T where Zimmerman stated he was walking back to his truck.

Unless you claim his friend was lying in her testimony, Martin decided to go back to the T and engage Zimmerman.

The only evidence we have that Martin was the aggressor is circumstantial, the injuries to Zimmerman's face and a lie detector test in which he was found to be truthful in stating he did not engage Martin and was in reasonable fear of his life when he shot. Sure, the test is not admissible and many claim it is a piece of cake to fool, but what would people have thought if Zimmerman refused to take the test? He had more risk involved in taking the test than not taking it. Not the sign of someone who is hiding something.

What is the significance if Zimmerman claims he forgot he was carrying his weapon? I would imagine folks that carry a weapon often are accustomed to how it feels and could forget, but who cares, he had the weapon and used it after on his back and he incurred injuries.

 

[bhsmte]

Not just that but was the gun on safety, was it cocked.....if he forgot he was carrying a firearm why was the firearm ready to go?

You really didn't listen to much of the testimony during trial, did you.

The gun was discussed in depth and it was revealed, his gun did not have an external safety, but had a trigger pull that required a significant amount of energy, which would avoid accidental discharge. These features were discussed at trial and were found to be common place with self defense weapons.

The prosecution was trying real hard to convict Zimmerman and they made zero headway with the weapon, so I highly doubt you will be able to.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Not just that but was the gun on safety, was it cocked.....if he forgot he was carrying a firearm why was the firearm ready to go?

Z's gun, the Kel-Tec PF-9 has no safety. It is 'double action', similar to a double action revolver. A round is kept in the chamber but the trigger must be pulled to fire. Pulling the trigger fully retracts and releases the firing pin.

'Ready to go' is recommended by all authorities.

By 'forgot' Zimmerman probably meant that he wasn't 'constantly aware' of his weapon being on him. I routinely forget that I have hand tools in my pockets and wind up taking them home instead of returning them to my workbench.

 

[Swim411]

The prosecution was trying real hard to convict Zimmerman and they made zero headway with the weapon, so I highly doubt you will be able to.

Hmmm. We have a dead kid. We have a smoking gun. And we have a weapon that requires intentional energy to discharge into someone's chest. Thus we have intent to kill.

And you say all we have against Zimmerman is circumstantial. Yet, many, many, many people are in jail based on far less circumstantial evidence than we have against George Zimmerman.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Hmmm. We have a dead kid. We have a smoking gun. And we have a weapon that requires intentional energy to discharge into someone's chest. Thus we have intent to kill.

And you say all we have against Zimmerman is circumstantial. Yet, many, many, many people are in jail based on far less circumstantial evidence than we have against George Zimmerman.

George didn't 'shoot to kill' Trayvon. He shot 'at' Trayvon as his last option to stop the attack. Because it was close range many assume he deliberately shot Trayvon through the heart. He knew about where 'CBM' was and went for it.

 

[Bedford]

George didn't 'shoot to kill' Trayvon. He shot 'at' Trayvon as his last option to stop the attack. Because it was close range many assume he deliberately shot Trayvon through the heart. He knew about where 'CBM' was and went for it.

Point blank into the chest.


didn't shoot to kill

 

[Swim411]

George didn't 'shoot to kill' Trayvon. He shot 'at' Trayvon as his last option to stop the attack. Because it was close range many assume he deliberately shot Trayvon through the heart. He knew about where 'CBM' was and went for it.

The weapon did not go off accidentally. He purposely took the weapon out of the holster, pointed it, intentionally, at Martin's chest (or center of mass), and intentionally pulled the trigger.

Ergo, he intentionally killed Trayvon. You don't know why he intentionally shot and killed Martin. You merely choose to believe Zimmerman's preposterous story.

 

[saffron park]

The weapon did not go off accidentally. He purposely took the weapon out of the holster, pointed it, intentionally, at Martin's chest (or center of mass), and intentionally pulled the trigger.

Ergo, he intentionally killed Trayvon. You don't know why he intentionally shot and killed Martin. You merely choose to believe Zimmerman's preposterous story.

Yeah. Absolutely Stinking Preposterous.

 

[MachZer0]

you never answered my question.

Also for the record, I am not the topic, so your question was of topic