Noah’s Flood Confirmed...?

[AV1611VET]

Keep going, and the salinity changes killed all of the fishes in this planet, and the 32,000 species of fish that we have today were kept in a tank in Noah's Ark.

Not if there were pockets of sea water available.

I'm sure God thought of that beforehand and made the proper provisions.

 

[CabVet]

Not if there were pockets of sea water available.

Pockets of water are nothing if the right habitat is not there. A global flood would eliminate all beaches, and most species of marine fish live along the coast, close to beaches. A fish like this:

Would die in a matter of hours away from it's host anemone. There are thousands of species that are as closely linked to their habitat (i.e. shallow, clear sea water) as this. Your "sea water pocket" idea is as absurd as a 5 mile thick water canopy.

 

[AV1611VET]

Your "sea water pocket" idea is as absurd as a 5 mile thick water canopy.

Groovy!

As I've said before, the more impossible it is, the more it shines as a miracle.

And for the record, scientist, I thought I said a 1cm (one centimeter) thick water canopy.

 

[RickG]

And for the record, scientist, I thought I said a 1cm (one centimeter) thick water canopy.

You mean "cm" doesn't stand for "cubic mile"?

 

[AV1611VET]

You mean "cm" doesn't stand for "cubic mile"?

QV please:

PS: Your 1 cm shell would have to be roughly 11 million miles from the Earth,

 

[RickG]

QV please:

My last post wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Contrary to the belief of some, I do have a sense of humor.

 

[CabVet]

Groovy!

As I've said before, the more impossible it is, the more it shines as a miracle.

And for the record, scientist, I thought I said a 1cm (one centimeter) thick water canopy.

If you like it "more impossible", why did you abandon the 5-mile canopy in favor of a 1cm one? If you like it "more impossible", why did you abandon the 1cm canopy when you realized how far from the earth it would be and conceived your "block of ice" idea? Seems like the "impossible=miracle" card is played every time you run out of explanations...

 

[AV1611VET]

My last post wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Contrary to the belief of some, I do have a sense of humor.

Yes, I figured that, but these guys are confused enough already, and I have a feeling that even the slightest joke will just make things worse.

 

[Ken-1122]

Do people really believe that stuff really happened? How did the fresh water separate it’s self from the salt water after the water rescinded? Without proper refrigeration, how was food stored for the animals to eat? Eventually everything would have spoiled! How was the animal dung disposed of? The only door was shut and God had the key? Disease would have been out of control!

So the Ark landed in present day Turkey? (Mt Arak) How did all those Polo Bears and Kangaroo’s get to Australia without leaving a trail?
Any engineer will tell you it is impossible even with today’s technology to build a vessel the size of Noah’s ark made strictly out of wood, without any steel reinforcements, and have it float. How did they prevent the wood from flexing?

I’m kinda surprised people today still believe those kind of stories.

K

 

[keith99]

Pockets of water are nothing if the right habitat is not there. A global flood would eliminate all beaches, and most species of marine fish live along the coast, close to beaches. A fish like this:

Would die in a matter of hours away from it's host anemone. There are thousands of species that are as closely linked to their habitat (i.e. shallow, clear sea water) as this. Your "sea water pocket" idea is as absurd as a 5 mile thick water canopy.

Lets concede for a second that somehow a few specimens of everything might survive.

What about things like the Great Barier Reef? Surely the vast majority of the corals there would have died with a global flood.

Yet there is no sign of this.

Also I happen to follow cycling. A few years ago the Tour de Frence climbed a mountian that a few hundered years ago was over logged to supply timber for ships. since then it has only gotten worse. it looks more like Lunar landscape than somewhere where there used to be a forest.

We should see many many places where the scars are still detectable even 6000 years later. And all should have the same timeframe.

But we find no such thing.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you like it "more impossible", why did you abandon the 5-mile canopy in favor of a 1cm one?

What are you talking about?

Here's a line from my original thread:

I'm trying to ascertain the radius of a five-mile thickness of water, if it was sheared off at the earth's surface and ballooned out until it had a thickness of 1cm.

And as I said before, after I remembered that water came up from the ground as well, I realized the error of my OP.

It should have read:

I'm trying to ascertain the radius of a three-mile thickness of water, if it was sheared off at the earth's surface and ballooned out until it had a thickness of 1cm.

 

[CabVet]

What are you talking about?

Here's a line from my original thread:

And as I said before, after I remembered that water came up from the ground as well, I realized the error of my OP.

It should have read:

Why did you abandon the water canopy idea?

 

[TLK Valentine]

My last post wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

neither is AV.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why did you abandon the water canopy idea?

I abandoned it after I realized it would actually be millions of miles out in space.

The Water Canopy Theory is also used to say that the sun's radiation was refracted around the earth, giving it a tropical climate the year round.

I no longer believe that, but I do believe the earth was a tropical paradise before the Fall.

 

[CabVet]

I abandoned it after I realized it would actually be millions of miles out in space.

Yeah, why? Didn't you just say this:

As I've said before, the more impossible it is, the more it shines as a miracle.

Why not trillions of miles? It would sound even more impossible.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why not trillions of miles? It would sound even more impossible.

Boolean standards apply here.

 

[CabVet]

Boolean standards apply here.

Haha, is that your standard fall back position?

Well, there is no difference in scientific likelihood between a 1cm layer of water a billion miles away, or a 5 mile layer on top of us, or a block of ice the size of the moon; the likelihood for any of those events is zero. And since there is no Biblical support for any of that either, your "boolean standards" (if I remember them right) do not apply.

 

[AV1611VET]

Haha, is that your standard fall back position?

Well, there is no difference in scientific likelihood between a 1cm layer of water a billion miles away, or a 5 mile layer on top of us, or a block of ice the size of the moon; the likelihood for any of those events is zero. And since there is no Biblical support for any of that either, your "boolean standards" (if I remember them right) do not apply.

Then please tell me where this water ...

Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

... went?

 

[CabVet]

Then please tell me where this water ...

Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

... went?

Why would it matter? Was it not a miracle? Did Jesus freeze the surface of the water to walk over it?

 

[RickG]

Then please tell me where this water ...

Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

... went?

Gen: 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

Uh huh, and birds come from water and fly in heaven.