Did God make a mistake?

[vocalyocal]

Good question. Keep on seeking truth, fatboys. Hint look to science for some answers about how God created life here in the first place. BTW scientists have already won the argument of how life was made in the first place, which is evolution of course.

Blessings.

nonsense they have no proof of any such thing

 

[NDE Master]

nonsense they have no proof of any such thing

Don't get me started.

 

[Soulgazer]

Perhaps your desire is to discuss whether or not the fall of mankind was planned.

LDS teachings in the Pearl of Great Price say that Adam and Eve made the right choice between two conflicting commandments and, therefore, the fall was a good thing. LDS also teach that men could not choose the right if there was no wrong.

There is a Gnostic myth of a similar title; It is supposed to be a song sung by Thomas to the king of India prompting his conversion.

Here it is in a modernized form:

http://youtu.be/agbKaAMB8Gc

 

[Forge3]

Merry Christmas. Sorry about my temper tantrum. I got really bad news from all fronts. Won't happen again.

 

[NDE Master]

You guys are so bloody weak. Noobies straight from the nurseries. weaklings all of you.

Don't bring that "holier than thou" crap here on me or anyone else here. The first key to being spiritual is not being prideful over others. That was what supposedly brought down Lucifer from heaven. You are not any better than any of us. I think you have some repenting to do.

And I am not a Noob to the bible, Jesus, or spirituality in general.

Blessings, peace and light.

 

[vocalyocal]

Don't bring that "holier than thou" crap here on me or anyone else here. The first key to being spiritual is not being prideful over others. That was what supposedly brought down Lucifer from heaven. You are not any better than any of us. I think you have some repenting to do.

And I am not a Noob to the bible, Jesus, or spirituality in general.

Blessings, peace and light.

it appears you have large amounts of human knowledge, things of the Spirit of God are out of your reach, because if you knew God you wouldnt be on the side your on, God said man's knowledge is foolishness to Him, consider that in the end God will make all your knowledge come out to be foolishness, and we will have simply trusted Him at His word.

considering i know without any doubt of His existence (because i know Him) He will do as He says, you will some day regret all your human knowledge, as in light of the Awesome Power of God, you will witness how vastly small minded you have been

 

[Forge3]

Don't bring that "holier than thou" crap here on me or anyone else here. The first key to being spiritual is not being prideful over others. That was what supposedly brought down Lucifer from heaven. You are not any better than any of us. I think you have some repenting to do.

And I am not a Noob to the bible, Jesus, or spirituality in general.

Blessings, peace and light.

I apologized. So not like me. I guess my psychiatrist is right I do have deep seated anger issues. And frustration. Sorry.

 

[Rescued One]

God didn't make a mistake ever. But He loves us more than people can imagine and He demonstrated that love on the cross.

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
John 15:13

6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:6-8

9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
1 John 4:9-10

And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
Ephesians 5:2

21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Romans 3:21-26

 

[NDE Master]

it appears you have large amounts of human knowledge, things of the Spirit of God are out of your reach, because if you knew God you wouldnt be on the side your on, God said man's knowledge is foolishness to Him, consider that in the end God will make all your knowledge come out to be foolishness, and we will have simply trusted Him at His word.

considering i know without any doubt of His existence (because i know Him) He will do as He says, you will some day regret all your human knowledge, as in light of the Awesome Power of God, you will witness how vastly small minded you have been

You obviously did not understand what I said. I was talking about my knowledge wisdom and understanding of the bible, Jesus, and spirituality. This is not the knowledge of the world. I am speaking of heavenly knowledge and the keys and the secrets to the kingdom of heaven. I don't know all of them, but I know a lot more than many people, just as a matter of fact. I think you were a bit presumptuous of my post.

And I don't subscribe to the idea that man's knowledge is worthless. It's not the best, but it's evolving better and better. And with cold fusion OR LENR coming out on the market soon it will prove once again that science and technology are a good path to relieve suffering ignorance and pain in this world. To help your fellow man through discovering the natural laws God put here. There has been a lot of new things coming out on cold fusion/LENR the last couple of years.

So before I was not speaking of man's knowledge but now I am not only in defense of my spiritual knowledge but also man's evolving knowledge.

Peace to you. Keep seeking virtuous truth.

 

[Carmella Prochaska]

No he doesn't make mistakes. I think He thought it through entirely but we're the ones who made it go wrong (ie Adam & Eve).

 

[NDE Master]

I apologized. So not like me. I guess my psychiatrist is right I do have deep seated anger issues. And frustration. Sorry.

I accept your apology but you missed the point with all that psychiatrist and anger talk. Just don't have pride over other people that are on the spiritual path. You don't have to beat yourself up over it (assuming that was not an exaggeration). Everyone has their own place in the spiritual path.

Peace, keep seeking virtuous truth.

 

[fatboys]

Good question. Keep on seeking truth, fatboys. Hint look to science for some answers about how God created life here in the first place. BTW scientists have already won the argument of how life was made in the first place, which is evolution of course.

Blessings.

I believe pure science and pure religion do not contradict each other. God can control things we do not have the knowledge to control. I believe that we are eternal, and because of this, we will have the opportunity to gain all knowledge and become perfect like the Father. Knowledge is the key.

 

[fatboys]

No he doesn't make mistakes. I think He thought it through entirely but we're the ones who made it go wrong (ie Adam & Eve).

I agree that God does not make mistakes. So if God does not make mistakes why are we not still in the Garden?

 

[NDE Master]

The moment that God thought of creating an earth with people on it, did he think it through entirely, not leaving any chance for something to go wrong?

In further thinking about your question. I can say that on a micro level that he knew some terrible things would at least probably happen. On a macro level is where I don't really know. Nothing really bad has ever happened to us all here on planet earth. I think that we can't really answer this question on a macro level. Even Noah's flood was a regional flood.

I believe pure science and pure religion do not contradict each other. God can control things we do not have the knowledge to control. I believe that we are eternal, and because of this, we will have the opportunity to gain all knowledge and become perfect like the Father. Knowledge is the key.

I totally agree on this. So do you believe in evolution?

 

[fatboys]

In further thinking about your question. I can say that on a micro level that he knew some terrible things would at least probably happen. On a macro level is where I don't really know. Nothing really bad has ever happened to us all here on planet earth. I think that we can't really answer this question on a macro level. Even Noah's flood was a regional flood.



I totally agree on this. So do you believe in evolution?

Good grief yes. Perhaps not as you may believe it. I believe that evolution is on going. Bacteria is a great one to prove that evolution has and always will exist. LDS are the greatest evolutionist there are. We believe that we have always existed, but evolve and will continue to evolve. We don't know what we started out as, but at some point we were intelligences, and then were created into spirits and then came to mortality through birth. And we will progress on this earth and die and progress on from there. I do believe in Adam and Eve, and that God has created millions of earths with people on it just like this one.

 

[NDE Master]

Good grief yes. Perhaps not as you may believe it. I believe that evolution is on going. Bacteria is a great one to prove that evolution has and always will exist. LDS are the greatest evolutionist there are. We believe that we have always existed, but evolve and will continue to evolve. We don't know what we started out as, but at some point we were intelligences, and then were created into spirits and then came to mortality through birth. And we will progress on this earth and die and progress on from there. I do believe in Adam and Eve, and that God has created millions of earths with people on it just like this one.

Your belief sounds interesting. Do you believe in reincarnation?

Peace.

 

[Soulgazer]

I agree that God does not make mistakes. So if God does not make mistakes why are we not still in the Garden?

God does not make mistakes. People do. People mistake a mythological explanation for a literal one.

 

[Rescued One]

I agree that God does not make mistakes. So if God does not make mistakes why are we not still in the Garden?

We are not in the garden, because Adam sinned.

Separation:
But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
Isaiah 59:2

Reconciliation:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Ephesians 2:13-18

 

[Rescued One]

Your belief sounds interesting. Do you believe in reincarnation?

Peace.

Reincarnation is not an LDS teaching. There was eternal matter made into a spirit child by the Father and one of his wives. The spirits who make the right choices in pre-motality are sent to earth to get bodies and follow "the plan of salvation." Those who succeed will become gods, but they are already gods in embryo.

 

[Noxot]

The moment that God thought of creating an earth with people on it, did he think it through entirely, not leaving any chance for something to go wrong?

God did not make a mistake but the sons of God did not comprehend God and instead listened to a lie. however now we have a better personality and more individuality due to our fall which was necessary so that we may not all be equal. thus it gave us more freedom and now we are more like God than ever. and we greatly rejoice that we choose God over what seems to be the reality, which is nothing more than a lie. now we will learn what it is to be a mother and to obtain the best husband that there is, the only one that matters to us, he saved us from everything. and further more we went through much hell and blindness but we found the light of our life and we even were tortured to death and counted our physical body as not worthy compared to what we see after death. but not all of us went through this, which further creates our individuality and unity.