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[Blackwater Babe]

Anyone here remember JohnR7, he said the Hong Kong airport proved the Bible right about a mountain casting itself into the sea, because of earthworks

 

[46AND2]

Bishop Ussher did use a lot of extra sources. But really anyone can do the geneology from Adam to Abraham. The only thing required is to accept that Noah was 600 years old at the time of the flood. There does not seem to be any scientific evidence that people can live to be 1,000 years of age. Of course there is no scientific evidence that they did not live that long. IT is pretty much a standoff.

It is quite simple to add up the dates to about Jacob, then you have to do some interpreting of other clues in the Bible to get a little further than that. Eventually, you have to use extra-Biblical sources.

But the whole discussion started because Split Rock, Loudmouth, and Wiccanchild said that there was some interpretation involved (as opposed to being inspired) in Ussher's chronology and that it was potentially untrustworthy, to which AV rebutted that Ussher only had to count. Surely, he could do that, right?

AV was asserting that we could independently verify Ussher's findings with simple arithmetic. When he was shown that you couldn't, he claimed that is not what he meant, but that we also had to combine it with secular Egyptian sources.

I think your missing the big picture here. You have 7,000 years before Adam shows up in the Garden of Eden. We can mark the beginning of this era using the Nanodiamond layer found on the Greenland Ice core samples. They have that at 12,900. I use the date 12,982 years. Then you have Adam 6,000 years ago. Abraham 4,000 years ago. David and the temple in Jerusalem 3,000 years ago. Jesus 2,000 years ago. Then I use the date we get from NASA of April 13, 2029 and April 13, 2036 as the end of this age or era. So there is a lot more involved in dispensationalism then just when Adam was born. You also have the 2,000 year church age, you have the 1,000 year reign of Christ. Then of course you have the OT dispensations also.

If you go through the Bible and read EVERY passage that talks about the third day. OR if you read every passage in the Bible that talks about the seventh day, THEN it will all start to make sense. Even people have written books about the third day. I have read two different books written on all the passages in the Bible that talks about the third day.

No, you are missing my point. I was not arguing whether or not Ussher's chronology reflects an accurate model. My argument was merely against AV's proposal that all we had to do to independently verify his model, was to add the dates up...and against the fact that he claimed to have done it.

 

[CabVet]

Anyone here remember JohnR7, he said the Hong Kong airport proved the Bible right about a mountain casting itself into the sea, because of earthworks

Oh we remember him very well. Now he uses another name, Jamin4422.

 

[Tiberius]

AV was asserting that we could independently verify Ussher's findings with simple arithmetic. When he was shown that you couldn't, he claimed that is not what he meant, but that we also had to combine it with secular Egyptian sources.

Oh, linky please?

 

[46AND2]

Oh, linky please?

First several posts of this thread:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7704938/

It should be noted that he also failed to link any Egyptian source with the Biblical genealogy. Essentially his point was, when he got to Judah, well, the Bible talks about the Egyptian empire, and the Egyptian empire existed at that time (that time being calculated from the assumed 4004BC creation date), so they link.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Oh we remember him very well. Now he uses another name, Jamin4422.

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[CabVet]

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LOL Just compare the posts. Same ideas, same grammatical errors, "Jamin" even jumped up to defend "John" in some threads after John magically disappeared. By the way, they are the same as Jazer too.

 

[razeontherock]

You don't even have a point. You really think that because the word in the Bible sounds a bit like a modern English word that it must mean exactly the same thing? Come on! That's some of the poorest reasoning I've ever heard. You haven't even attempted to show that your reasoning is sound!

This is a further example of deliberately being obtuse. Strawman # 3,722 that I've seen on CF, today ...

 

[Blackwater Babe]

Oh we remember him very well. Now he uses another name, Jamin4422.

OOOOHHH! It all makes sense now

 

[Blackwater Babe]

This is a further example of deliberately being obtuse. Strawman # 3,722 that I've seen on CF, today ...

You keep using that term. I no think it means what you think it means

 

[Wiccan_Child]

LOL Just compare the posts. Same ideas, same grammatical errors, "Jamin" even jumped up to defend "John" in some threads after John magically disappeared. By the way, they are the same as Jazer too.

I remember Juvennisun, then Jazer, then Jamin. JohnR7 may well be the original. It's like a bloody hydra!

 

[Blackwater Babe]

I remember Juvennisun, then Jazer, then Jamin. JohnR7 may well be the original. It's like a bloody hydra!

What a fitting simile! Yes, and like the hydra, when you demolish the PRATT of one, another will come back with the exact same PRATT a week later

 

[sfs]

I remember Juvennisun, then Jazer, then Jamin. JohnR7 may well be the original. It's like a bloody hydra!

Juvennisun is a different entity, I believe. Geology is his thing, rather than agriculture, Adam and Eve and haplotypes.

 

[46AND2]

Juvennisun is a different entity, I believe. Geology is his thing, rather than agriculture, Adam and Eve and haplotypes.

Agreed. Plus, their speech/grammar is completely different.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Juvennisun is a different entity, I believe. Geology is his thing, rather than agriculture, Adam and Eve and haplotypes.

Hmm, perhaps, perhaps. Is anyone willing to do a longitudinal study of their collective posts?

 

[Blackwater Babe]

I'm pretty sure JohnR7 and Juvennisun were contemporary for a while

 

[razeontherock]

You keep using that term. I no think it means what you think it means

Obtuse: exceeding 90 degrees but less than 180 degrees. Yeah I guess you're right, no other meanings are possible

 

[razeontherock]

I remember Juvennisun, then Jazer, then Jamin. JohnR7 may well be the original. It's like a bloody hydra!

Isn't Juve still here? Jazer too?

 

[CabVet]

Isn't Juve still here? Jazer too?

No, Jazer disappeared when Jamin arrived. Juvenissun is though, he is a different one.

 

[Tiberius]

This is a further example of deliberately being obtuse. Strawman # 3,722 that I've seen on CF, today ...

Then why don't you put your moneey where your mouth is and show us that the word used in the ancient Greek manuscripts of the biblical texts actually meant "small stick of an explosive nature."