did Judas actually cast out demons

[Clare73]

How is one born again?

Only by the Holy Spirit, who "blows wherever he pleases. You can see his effects, but you cannot tell where he comes from or where he is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit (Jn 3:8)." He works as he pleases in the rebirth and renewal of the human heart.

In the faith,
Clare

 

[Lion King]

Only by the Holy Spirit, who "blows wherever he pleases. You can see his effects, but you cannot tell where he comes from or where he is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit (Jn 3:8)." He works as he pleases in the rebirth and renewal of the human heart.

In the faith,
Clare

Why isn't everyone born again by the Spirit of God?

 

[Clare73]

I never understood the OSAS doctrine..probably never will.

I can tell you what Scripture states.

Those who are born again into sonship of God with Jesus do not spiritually die again, because they are now God's sons and he keeps/preserves them (through warnings, admonitions, instructions which they heed) from fatally falling away (Jn 10:28-29).

What Scripture states is easy to understand.

In the faith,
Clare

 

[Clare73]

How does one differentiate a born again person from a non-born again person?

No one else can.

Only the one who is born again can do so by the witness of the Holy Spirit bearing testimony to his spirit
that he is an adopted son of God (Ro 8:16).

In the faith,
Clare

 

[psalms 91]

Jesus gtave Judas every chance and opportunity to turn from his evil, he was loved by Jesus the same, endued with power the same, sent out the same, Jesus knew what he would do and still he was given every opportunity to turn.

 

[Lion King]

No one else can.

Only the one who is born again can do so by the witness of the Holy Spirit bearing testimony to his spirit
that he is an adopted son of God (Ro 8:16).

In the faith,
Clare

I thought you said operating by the Holy-Spirit does not mean one is born again?

Which is it?

 

[Lion King]

I can tell you what Scripture states.

Those who are born again into sonship of God with Jesus do not spiritually die again, because they are now God's sons and he keeps/preserves them (through warnings, admonitions, instructions which they heed) from fatally falling away (Jn 10:28-29).

What Scripture states is easy to understand.

In the faith,
Clare

Is one born of the Holy-Spirit before or after believing in Jesus Christ?

 

[Clare73]

Why isn't everyone born again by the Spirit of God?

God says,

'I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.'

It does not therefore depend on man's desire. . .but on God's mercy." (Ro 9:15-16)

"Then is God unjust? Not at all!" (Ro 9:14)

He does not owe mercy to any one. It is a free gift, which he dispenses at his pleasure and will for his own purposes.

Then why does he not pleasure to dispense it to all?

He has another and greater purpose in not doing so.

He's God, and we're not.

In the faith,
Clare

 

[Clare73]

I thought you said operating by the Holy-Spirit does not mean one is born again.

"Operating" by the Spirit are the active works that the person does by the Spirit.

"Witness and testimony" of the Spirit are what the Spirit does. The person is passive, not active.
The person is not doing anything by the Spirit, he is simply receiving testimony from the Spirit.

In the faith,
Clare

 

[Lion King]

God says,

'I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.'

It does not therefore depend on man's desire. . .but on God's mercy." (Ro 9:15-16)

"Then is God unjust? Not at all!" (Ro 9:14)

He does not owe mercy to any one. It is a free gift, which he dispenses at his pleasure and will for his own purposes.

Then why does he not pleasure to dispense it to all?

He has another and greater purpose in not doing so.

He's God, and we're not.

In the faith,
Clare

It is also written:


With the merciful You will show Yourself merciful;
With a blameless man You will show Yourself blameless;
With the pure You will show Yourself pure;
And with the devious You will show Yourself shrewd. 2 Samuel 22:26-27


For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. Titus 2:11


This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2:3-4


The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9


And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:2


If the LORD wants everyone to be saved, why isn't everyone born again of the Holy-Spirit?

 

[Lion King]

"Operating" by the Spirit are the active works that the person does by the Spirit.

"Witness and testimony" of the Spirit are what the Spirit does. The person is passive, not active.
The person is not doing anything by the Spirit, he is simply receiving testimony from the Spirit.

In the faith,
Clare

So, a person can have the Holy-Spirit and not be born again? Is that correct?

 

[Clare73]

Is one born of the Holy-Spirit before or after believing in Jesus Christ?

Scripture shows, though does not explicity state, that one is born again before believing in Christ.

First of all, because they cannot even see the kingdom of God until they are born again (Jn 3:3), and

secondly, because the sinful mind is hostile to God, those controlled by the sinful unregenerate nature
cannot please God, and that includes believing on his Son (Ro 8:7-8).

In the faith,
Clare

 

[Lion King]

Scripture shows, though does not explicity state, that one is born again before believing in Christ.

First of all, because they cannot even see the kingdom of God until they are born again (Jn 3:3), and
secondly, because the sinful mind is hostile to God, those controlled by the sinful unregenerate nature
cannot please God, and that includes believing on his Son (Ro 8:7-8).

In the faith,
Clare

Are ye sure about that my sister?

Is one really born of the Holy-Spirit before they come to believe in the Son of God-Jesus Christ.

Where do the Scriptures say that?

I thought the Scriptures say that Christ only comes into our hearts after we open the door for Him?

Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him." John 14:23

 

[Tzaousios]

I thought the Scriptures say that Christ only comes into our hearts after we open the door for Him?

But then the question becomes why would they want to do that, not to mention will to do it. Chances are they think that they are generally "good people" and do what's right in their own eyes. That is enough for them.

 

[Clare73]

It is also written:

This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2:3-4

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9

If the LORD wants everyone to be saved, why isn't everyone born again of the Holy-Spirit?

The answer lies in the way God deals with Pharoah.

Before God ever sent Moses to Pharoah, he told Moses:
"But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go.

Then say to Pharoah, 'This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son. . .Let my son go
that he may worship me.' " (Ex 4:21-23)

"For the Scripture says to Pharoah: 'I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and
that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.' Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

But one of you will say to me, 'Then why does God still blame us (for hardening our hearts)?
Who can resist his will (that they be hardened)?'
But who are you, O man, to talk back to God. 'Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, "Why did you make me like
this?" ' (Is 29:16, 45:9) Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use (vessels for human waste)?" (Ro 9:17-21)

What if God did this for a higher purpose (Ro 9:22-23)?
That's why he did it with Pharoah (Ex 9:16).

In the faith,
Clare

 

[Clare73]

So, a person can have the Holy-Spirit and not be born again? Is that correct?

A person can perform by the Holy Spirit without the Holy Spirit indwelling him, which is the rebirth.

The Spirit came upon Saul, gave him power, but did not indwell him.

The same with those in Mt 7:22-23.

In the faith,
Clare

 

[Clare73]

Is one born of the Holy-Spirit before or after believing in Jesus Christ?

Scripture shows, though does not explicity state, that one is born again before believing in Christ.

First of all, because they cannot even see the kingdom of God until they are born again (Jn 3:3), and

secondly, because the sinful mind is hostile to God, those controlled by the sinful unregenerate nature
cannot please God, and that includes believing on his Son (Ro 8:7-8).

Are ye sure about that my sister?

Is one really born of the Holy-Spirit before they come to believe in the Son of God-Jesus Christ.

Where do the Scriptures say that?

Addressed above.

Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him." John 14:23

Only those who are born again can truly love and obey Jesus, because the unregenerate sinful mind is hostile to God and does not love nor obey him because it cannot (Ro 8:7-8). The unregenerate cannot please God by loving and obeying Jesus.

In the faith,
Clare

 

[Lion King]

The answer lies in the way God deals with Pharoah.

Before God ever sent Moses to Pharoah, he told Moses:
"But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go.

Then say to Pharoah, 'This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son. . .Let my son go
that he may worship me.' " (Ex 4:21-23)

"For the Scripture says to Pharoah: 'I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.' Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

But one of you will say to me, 'Then why does God still blame us (for hardening our hearts)? Who can resist his will (that they be hardened)?'
But who are you, O man, to talk back to God. 'Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, "Why did you make me like this?" ' (Is 29:16, 45:9) Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use (vessels for human waste)?" (Ro 9:17-21)

What if God did this for a higher purpose (Ro 9:22-23)?
That's why he did it with Pharoah (Ex 9:16).

In the faith,
Clare

Didn't the LORD harden Pharoah's heart only after he repeatedly refused to let the children of Israel go?

IMO, Pharoah hardened his own heart (Exodus 7:13, 22; Exodus 8:15). The LORD gave Pharoah many opportunities to set Israel free, but Pharoah remained adamant. In the end, the LORD left Pharoah to his own devices:

Why then do you harden your hearts, as the Egyptians and Pharaoh hardened their hearts? when he had worked wonderfully among them, did they not let the people go, and they departed? 1 Samuel 6:6

 

[Lion King]

A person can perform by the Holy Spirit without the Holy Spirit indwelling him, which is the rebirth.

The Spirit came upon Saul, but he did not indwell him.

In the faith,
Clare

I'm not sure I understand?

And the Spirit of the LORD came mightily on him, and he rent him as he would have rent a kid, and he had nothing in his hand: but he told not his father or his mother what he had done. Judges 14:6


Does this mean Samson had no Holy-Spirit dwelling within his heart?

 

[Lion King]

Addressed above.

Only those who are born again can truly love and obey Jesus, because the unregenerate sinful mind is hostile to God and does not love nor obey him because it cannot. The unregenerate cannot please God by loving and obeying Jesus. (Ro 8:7-8).

In the faith,
Clare

I'm still failing to see how John 3:3 and Romans 8:7-8 say that one is born of the holy-Spirit before coming to Christ?

Would you mind expanding on the above verses, or better yet, provide other clear Scriptural passages that say so?